Pro Cycling Manager - anyone played it

[Caruut]

I bought it, and tried DSing a couple of classics to get the hang of it. Managing OPL on LBL, but I can't see to set any kind of initial plan for the riders. The leaders of my team, Gilbert and VDB2, just sit on the back of the peloton, getting dropped behind big groups of lesser riders because they're trapped behind a wall of guys going super-slow up the hills, while they're nowhere near the front to respond to decisive attacks. I feel like I must be missing something fundamental.

 

[will10]

Well yeah, you need to move your riders up before the final starts.

 

[Caruut]

Sorry, I'm sure this has been covered before, but how do I tell them to move up the bunch? It's odd, my domestiques automatically spread through the front/middle, and my protected riders all shift to the back.

 

[will10]

I tend to use dot 80 to move everyone to the front early on (once the early break's gone and the pace drops normally, unless there's climbs straight from the start), then leave them on hold position with 70-80 effort and they'll stay in the front part of the bunch.

 

[Caruut]

I tend to use dot 80 to move everyone to the front early on (once the early break's gone and the pace drops normally, unless there's climbs straight from the start), then leave them on hold position with 70-80 effort and they'll stay in the front part of the bunch.

What's dot 80, sorry?

 

[Gloin22]

As you can see Porte us using 'dot' to accelerate from the peleton. Dot is literally the dot with the horizontal arrow as you can see in the pic.

This is the best method to go to front of the bunch/ mountains. Dont attack, use the dot and then try to attack in last 2km maybe or preserve energy for sprint. R

 

[Caruut]

This is the best method to go to front of the bunch/ mountains. Dont attack, use the dot and then try to attack in last 2km maybe or preserve energy for sprint. R

Thanks.

Have been trying a tour with Saxo, and it's enabling me to place Contador well for the mountains. I'm using a few riders to ride in the front on the flat, and put some pressure onto the breaks leading up to the slopes. Then Contador and some climbing domestiques stay slightly further back to save energy, coming closer to the front on the slopes, as the exhausted workers from the day drop back into the autobus groups.

One thing I can't seem to do is set specific protection. I'm clustering my riders in a group, but I can't seem to tell, say, Sorenson "stick with Contador until you crack". I click the shield button and set "A. Contador" with the little arrows under the rider's name on the side panel, but they do nothing, and when I look back it's reset.

Does the game have some kind of tutorial mode? It'd be nice to be guided through the race and game mechanics of a race by the game, but it just seems to assume I've played it before.

EDIT: I found the manual (I have the download version). All good now - it even uses Sorenson and Contador as the example in the manual.

 

[Gloin22]

There's also a very good guide here : http://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=19662

And a great tips section with videos how to do well in mountains, set up sprints trains etc. : http://pcmdaily.com/tipstricks.php

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Problem Alert!

I play the RSM 2009, and played 5 seasons. Now at the World Championships 2013 i have to elect riders i want to ride in the worlds. But when i go to the "nationalteam page", the riders are not there anymore to elect. It´s completely emty. I also can not forward the season, b/c the game don´t let me simulate the race until i have elected riders for my national team. Basically it seems to be the end of the game. It´s hard to accept, after finishing 4 times as runner up in the TdF to Contador, my plan was to go for the TdF-Win in 2014!

Does someone had similar problems? How did you solve this problem? Is there a possibility to go back to a earlier part of the season when this "national team bug" wasn´t there? Basically, does the computer have saved files of the game? Can those be uploaded?

Thanks in advance. It would be too bad to have to start all over again.

BTW, my rider who finished 4 times 2nd in a row to Contador is Gesink. In my 2013 season (where later the bug happened) i lost by 8 seconds. Like the famous 1989-Fignon-TdF, i lost yellow on the last time trial. History repeats even in computer games.

 

[Havetts]

I think the best thing to do is send Dekker_Tifosi a pm should he not read this, he is the PCM wizard on this forum !

Pretty nice job on the four 2nd places in the Tour, I always end around place 3 or 4 with Gesink

 

[will10]

Get across to PCMDaily and ask there, not heard of that problem before though.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

me neither sorry

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Ok, thanks all. I was going to a german forum. At least it was heard there, that after many seasons the 09 game just "bugs". I might have been a victim of this. But there is hope: I also heard that the 11 version is stable, and that DB´s from older versions can be copied into the 11 version. I might buy the 11 version and start all over again to finally beat AC

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I think the best thing to do is send Dekker_Tifosi a pm should he not read this, he is the PCM wizard on this forum !

Pretty nice job on the four 2nd places in the Tour, I always end around place 3 or 4 with Gesink

It felt like Ullrich. Every year the same. Finally i almost got AC, if not that final 47 km ITT, where i also made the mistake to put one point to less energy for half of the stage. My mistake... 8 seconds

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

This is the best method to go to front of the bunch/ mountains. Dont attack, use the dot and then try to attack in last 2km maybe or preserve energy for sprint. R

I always just use the dot (no extra effort needed) to move all my protected riders to just behind the head of the peloton at the very beginning of the race/stage. The domestiques move up by virtue of their slavish obedience to the command to protect. No-one breaks un-noticed, no split in the field leaves me stranded. Need to be careful to send for water in relatively flat phases of the race, but otherwise serves me well. Is this cheating?

 

[Gloin22]

I always just use the dot (no extra effort needed) to move all my protected riders to just behind the head of the peloton at the very beginning of the race/stage. The domestiques move up by virtue of their slavish obedience to the command to protect. No-one breaks un-noticed, no split in the field leaves me stranded. Need to be careful to send for water in relatively flat phases of the race, but otherwise serves me well. Is this cheating?

Not really, AI gets massive bonuses tbh. If you play on extreme AI gets +4 on each stats ( e.g if your riders has 80 in Moutntain, AI rider with 76 MO is same as you are if you get me ) On hard it's +2 and on normal it's 0. So on extreme and hard without dot you dont stand a chance. On normal you are not that dependant on it but because the PCM is still kinda bugged as attacking on steep parts is a waste, then the dot is the only way to play it right. Hope they fix the attacking on steep mountains/hills in next version though.

 

[dlwssonic]

Is there any way to update rosters and teams without downloading those huuge files??

 

[Gloin22]

Is there any way to update rosters and teams without downloading those huuge files??

Don't think so. But the huge files add a lot more than only teams. They have updated stats, a lots of new races and new calendar for 2012. Stages take the largest bit. Also 2012 jerseys etc. It's worth it imo.

 

[Gloin22]

First screen of PCM 12. Faces seem to be a lot improved looking at Cavendish.

 

[sherer]

so the game is going to look great.

let's hope it isn't style of substance

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Okay so I have a problem, went to the Giro without being able to chose my team. Does anyone know how to change this with the fast editor?

 

[Parrulo]

no crack yet for the 2011 game <_<

damn it i already have it installed with the PCM DB, just need the crack . . .

 

[CasperVg]

I just played Liège-Bastonge-Liège with PCMdailyDB and the real-life startlist (so all the riders/teams are the same as in real life right now). I played as the weakest team (Topsport) and made them all abandon at the beginning of the race, so it would only be the AI that influenced it.

This was the result:

Rank Name Team Time
1 Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team 6h47'58
2 Fränk Schleck RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
3 Andy Schleck RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
4 Joaquím Rodríguez Katusha Team + 15
5 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
6 Thomas Voeckler Team Europcar s.t.
7 Michele Scarponi Lampre - ISD s.t.
8 Damiano Cunego Lampre - ISD s.t.
9 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
10 Chris Anker Sørensen Team Saxo Bank s.t.
11 Chris Horner RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
12 Simon Gerrans GreenEdge Cycling Team s.t.
13 Giovanni Visconti Movistar Team s.t.
14 Óscar Freire Katusha Team s.t.
15 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
16 Daniel Moreno Katusha Team s.t.
17 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
18 Michael Albasini GreenEdge Cycling Team s.t.
19 Luis León Sánchez Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
20 Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Barracuda s.t.
21 Paul Martens Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
22 Jens Voigt RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
23 Robert Gesink Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
24 Jelle Vanendert Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
25 Jurgen Van den Broeck Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
26 Wout Poels Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
27 Enrico Gasparotto Astana Pro Team s.t.
28 José Joaquín Rojas Movistar Team s.t.
29 Maxime Monfort RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
30 Jan Bakelants RadioShack - Nissan + 1'22

So basically it was Gilbert and Frandy finishing just a few seconds in front of a 26-man peleton, led by Rodriguez. Nibali and CA Sorensen were reeled in one kilometer from the finish, after having done an attack with 79 km to go.

 

[Gloin22]

I just played Liège-Bastonge-Liège with PCMdailyDB and the real-life startlist (so all the riders/teams are the same as in real life right now). I played as the weakest team (Topsport) and made them all abandon at the beginning of the race, so it would only be the AI that influenced it.

This was the result:

Rank Name Team Time
1 Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team 6h47'58
2 Fränk Schleck RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
3 Andy Schleck RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
4 Joaquím Rodríguez Katusha Team + 15
5 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
6 Thomas Voeckler Team Europcar s.t.
7 Michele Scarponi Lampre - ISD s.t.
8 Damiano Cunego Lampre - ISD s.t.
9 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale s.t.
10 Chris Anker Sørensen Team Saxo Bank s.t.
11 Chris Horner RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
12 Simon Gerrans GreenEdge Cycling Team s.t.
13 Giovanni Visconti Movistar Team s.t.
14 Óscar Freire Katusha Team s.t.
15 Greg Van Avermaet BMC Racing Team s.t.
16 Daniel Moreno Katusha Team s.t.
17 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
18 Michael Albasini GreenEdge Cycling Team s.t.
19 Luis León Sánchez Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
20 Ryder Hesjedal Garmin - Barracuda s.t.
21 Paul Martens Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
22 Jens Voigt RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
23 Robert Gesink Rabobank Cycling Team s.t.
24 Jelle Vanendert Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
25 Jurgen Van den Broeck Lotto Belisol Team s.t.
26 Wout Poels Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
27 Enrico Gasparotto Astana Pro Team s.t.
28 José Joaquín Rojas Movistar Team s.t.
29 Maxime Monfort RadioShack - Nissan s.t.
30 Jan Bakelants RadioShack - Nissan + 1'22

So basically it was Gilbert and Frandy finishing just a few seconds in front of a 26-man peleton, led by Rodriguez. Nibali and CA Sorensen were reeled in one kilometer from the finish, after having done an attack with 79 km to go.

The problem with Amstel is the Cauberg in real life is quite long for a hill. And PCM doesnt have that up to the scale so Cauberg is just a short hill. Scale is that matters here.

One of the guys in stage making, is making the Cauberg longer in PCM making the stage longer but should produced much more realistic results as sprint up Cauberg will produce much bigger gaps.

 

[XlandaluzeX]

no crack yet for the 2011 game <_<

damn it i already have it installed with the PCM DB, just need the crack . . .

try harder