pro gear thread

[ray j willings]

Direct Energie & BH for 2016.

 

[ray j willings]

Riblons Machine ....same again next year

 

[Benotti69]

Riblons Machine ....same again next year

graphics overload, but apart from that, nice looking machine, esp camp SR

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Riblons Machine ....same again next year

graphics overload, but apart from that, nice looking machine, esp camp SR

Hear, HEAR!!!

 

[King Boonen]

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This is simply beautiful.

This is the style of bike i prefer, not so much the gold colour but everything else about it for me defines bicycling.

I'm torn on the colour. I'd never ride it but I bet it looks awesome in person.


Otherwise yes, this what a bike should look like!

 

[StryderHells]

Hang on! Has AG2r switched from SRAM to Campagnolo? If so good move AG2r! Wireless will go down the same path as most SRAM products and end up with mass recalls and fatal flaws

 

[ray j willings]

IMO , etap is the best Electronic group set. Its not bulky . Its easier to use. No chance of chain slipping or chain rub on any of the gears. You can shift multi cogs by holding paddle down. No chance of accidently hitting wrong button. The tech is more advanced . individual battery's is very clever and its light.
All the reviews have been great.

All those that have a go at Sram are just snobs I ride Sram mechanical.
You set your bike up properly and Sram works as good as anything.
When I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in.

If I wanted bullet proof then dura ace 7800. But if I want performance, easy shifting across the gears. no loud clicks or noises and lightest groupset RED is the best.

That's my view but I'm not a snob.

 

[Benotti69]

Lovely

http://fireflybicycles.tumblr.com/post/128909781729

 

[ray j willings]

 

[King Boonen]

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Lovely

http://fireflybicycles.tumblr.com/post/128909781729

When a Nemesis tubular is the second photo on a website I know I've found a kindred spirit

 

[fatsprintking]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

 

[ray j willings]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

 

[BigMac]

Shimano Sora for the win. 105 is as far I'd ever go.

And whatever equates to that on the Campy side.

 

[42x16ss]

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Shimano Sora for the win. 105 is as far I'd ever go.

And whatever equates to that on the Campy side.

Campy Centaur. Get it in the red version and it's a great looking, great value groupset.

Even Veloce, the rough equivalent to Tiagra is plenty good if you aren't racing seriously.

 

[King Boonen]

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Shimano Sora for the win. 105 is as far I'd ever go.

And whatever equates to that on the Campy side.

More than enough. Love my 105 and would only get Ultegra parts if they were second-hand/as cheap. Has Sora gone aero yet? I know Tiagra has and that's the only thing which would put me off. That and the little gear indicators but I could live with them if I had to!

Campy Centaur. Get it in the red version and it's a great looking, great value groupset.

Even Veloce, the rough equivalent to Tiagra is plenty good if you aren't racing seriously.

Centaur has been phased out though so might be hard to find.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

IMO , etap is the best Electronic group set. Its not bulky . Its easier to use. No chance of chain slipping or chain rub on any of the gears. You can shift multi cogs by holding paddle down. No chance of accidently hitting wrong button. The tech is more advanced . individual battery's is very clever and its light.
All the reviews have been great.

All those that have a go at Sram are just snobs I ride Sram mechanical.
You set your bike up properly and Sram works as good as anything.
When I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in.

If I wanted bullet proof then dura ace 7800. But if I want performance, easy shifting across the gears. no loud clicks or noises and lightest groupset RED is the best.

That's my view but I'm not a snob.

You DO know how to shift this thing? No more grabbing a water bottle and shifting the front at the same time.
BOTh levers to shift the front? No shifting the front and rear at the same time. No adjusting the front on the on the road..cuz ya can't turn cranks and shift the front der at the same time..lessee..is the right to higher and left to lower or the other way around...NOT intuitive, dum..

AND 4 batteries, that's a 'great' idea. 25% of the batteries go south, what happens? I have charged my EPS 3 times in 2 years.

Ahhh, a mech that goes into the spokes isn't the ders fault, it's the der hanger..and I guess you wish to ignore the recall of Red rear ders for the lower pivot getting so sloppy..well, it went into the spokes..THAT one was the der's fault. One of how many sram recalls? I count 4.

The reason you don't hear spam front shifting is that it's so bad, sram tried to foist 1by systems, cuz they never have gotten the front der figured out.

Lightest huh? Also pretty light when you have to send a part, like shifter, BB, rear der, into those knuckleheads for warranty. AND from the genius' that thought up hydraulic road calipers..Cav sure liked them(not)..great idea(?)

7800...but it's so heavy..geeez, trim your nose hair.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

Only 20 years? I have been wrenching in ProShops for 40 years and I have never seen what you described. BUT I warrantied sram stuff at the rate of 10-15 times the number of Campag or shimano stuff. Believe what you want, sram stuff is cheap, tested by consumers, light-it breaks, often.

Would rather walk that use anything from them.

 

[fatsprintking]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

Sorry champ, you said "had mech go into his wheels, mech snapped in half". I am really sorry that you hate when people make assumptions, but I think from your description that it was a reasonable assumption to make - perhaps you should have been clearer about what you were talking about? Now that you have provided a more detailed accounting of what has occurred the situation is different, but really, when you say he had the "mech go into the wheels", most people that know anything about bikes would say that was because the stops on the mech were not adjusted properly.

Lifes too short to hate Ray.

 

[ray j willings]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

Sorry champ, you said "had mech go into his wheels, mech snapped in half". I am really sorry that you hate when people make assumptions, but I think from your description that it was a reasonable assumption to make - perhaps you should have been clearer about what you were talking about? Now that you have provided a more detailed accounting of what has occurred the situation is different, but really, when you say he had the "mech go into the wheels", most people that know anything about bikes would say that was because the stops on the mech were not adjusted properly.

Lifes too short to hate Ray.

I don't hate anyone. I'm just telling you what happened. Stop being a as£££le.
The guy is MECHANIC FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS, He has set up many bikes with super record including 2 of his own. Are you going to keep listing reasons why the mech could have gone through the spokes.
The stops /set up was fine, all his previous rides without issue would suggest that
The mech snapped in half and went into his spokes. Simple.
Campy inspected the mech and said " WE HAVE FOUND A FAULT " with it . They up graded his rear mech to the latest model with apologies.
Get over it ....

 

[ray j willings]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

Only 20 years? I have been wrenching in ProShops for 40 years and I have never seen what you described. BUT I warrantied sram stuff at the rate of 10-15 times the number of Campag or shimano stuff. Believe what you want, sram stuff is cheap, tested by consumers, light-it breaks, often.

Would rather walk that use anything from them.

I have the same pair of tuned shifters on my bike since red came out they work fine? so light you would not believe.
I have the same 3 front red mechs [ under 50 grms] . I put lightweight carbon cages on them ,they work fine.

I have 2 tuned red mechs [ 87 grms/ 90 grams] they work fine

So for me Red is great shifts great no Campy clunk. 7900 shimano is a pig to shift you cannot do multi shifts like red can. I do want electronic because I know 2 people who run Di and it never works properly most of the time.
[heavy] Campy electric same reason. Heavy and cumbersome and clunky.
The new red etap is much more streamlined and I could counter all you arguments but you obviously did not read or have not read an reviews.
Like I said SNOB.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

I do want electronic because I know 2 people who run Di and it never works properly most of the time.

this doesn't quite make sense ray?

you guys still hammering out the SRAM Vs Campy Vs Shimano thing??

why no love for the FSA electronic groupset I mean, they only started talking about an 11spd groupset back in 2008 :roll eyes:

 

[Bustedknuckle]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click. One of my friends has had his 11 speed record rear mech go into his wheels. Mech snapped in half. It was only a few rides in."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

WRONG . I really hate when people just make assumptions without knowing the facts.

My friend is a bike mechanic, he knows exactly how to set up a bike.He has been fixing and repairing bikes for nearly 20 years he also builds wheels. He has always used Campy. He has the same super record set up on his other bike. The Campy in question was on his custom made Viner.
The rear mech snapped in half. It was not under load from changing gear or anything [ that shouldn't matter anyway] . It just broke off and went into his wheel while pedalling along . It was sent back to Campy who replaced it [ took ages] They did not really say to much except it had a fault and gave him a replacement.

Only 20 years? I have been wrenching in ProShops for 40 years and I have never seen what you described. BUT I warrantied sram stuff at the rate of 10-15 times the number of Campag or shimano stuff. Believe what you want, sram stuff is cheap, tested by consumers, light-it breaks, often.

Would rather walk that use anything from them.

I have the same pair of tuned shifters on my bike since red came out they work fine? so light you would not believe.
I have the same 3 front red mechs [ under 50 grms] . I put lightweight carbon cages on them ,they work fine.

I have 2 tuned red mechs [ 87 grms/ 90 grams] they work fine

So for me Red is great shifts great no Campy clunk. 7900 shimano is a pig to shift you cannot do multi shifts like red can. I do want electronic because I know 2 people who run Di and it never works properly most of the time.
[heavy] Campy electric same reason. Heavy and cumbersome and clunky.
The new red etap is much more streamlined and I could counter all you arguments but you obviously did not read or have not read an reviews.
Like I said SNOB.

Spam and shimano mechanical both shift one higher gear at a time for the rear Der. No 'multiple higher gear at a time' except for ......Campagnolo.

I read the 'reviews' from knobs who get a bunch of stuff for free and say nice things about it as 'payment'. I know 2 guys who have warrantied a total of 3 levers, a red rear Der and a big chainring...anecdotal evidence is just that. There is a reason only 1 team had spam in the pro peloton, other teams that were offered it turned it down, even tho free. BMC and Garmin...such Junque.

 

[winkybiker]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

Yes to this. My Super Record is breathtakingly quiet. A real stealth to it. Any groupset will be noisy if it's worn, out of adjustment or not lubed. Otherwise I have no clue what RJW is talking about.

 

[42x16ss]

"I ride alongside guys using Campy all you hear is click click click."


That's because it was not adjusted properly, not because there is any flaw in the mech.

Yes to this. My Super Record is breathtakingly quiet. A real stealth to it. Any groupset will be noisy if it's worn, out of adjustment or not lubed. Otherwise I have no clue what RJW is talking about.

I'm on the new 2015 Chorus, beautiful stuff. Yes there's a definite click when shifting but otherwise it's brilliant. The 5700 105 on my training/commuting bike runs silently and still shifts nicely as well. As long as the drivetrain is kept clean it's great, even after 5 years of heavy use.

The only bike I've had SRAM on (Force/Red mix) needed the right shifter replaced after a month, the cranks started undoing themselves after 12 months, the brakes were woeful, the chain and cassette noisy as hell, the rear derailleur needed enough cable to lasso a buffalo and the front derailleur dropped the chain all the time.

There's a reason teams are moving away from them.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

Andy Schleck loved his SRAM