Pro Rider reaction to Ricco news

[Benotti69]

Welcome Adam Myerson.

Loved your quote about standing beside Landis and watching cycling burn.

Stick around.

This place needs more pros input.

 

[auscyclefan94]

In whose eyes?

Those of the silent dopers? That's the problem, a lot of people's careers depend on doping and omerta enforcement. If these people who are giving it to Ricco did the same to Lancey and Contador they would be looking for a new job.

But this time, Ricco has taken a big enough dive that he is "open game", anyone is free to take a potshot. He is an embarrassment to the doping culture of cycling so deserves to be ridiculed.

Gatete is kind of right. Damned if you and damned if you don't. Though there must be consistency in what people say.

I don't think Sassi knowingly dopes his riders. Well that is my opinion of him.

 

[luckyboy]

I don't think Sassi knowingly dopes his riders. Well that is my opinion of him.

Yeah I think that must be kinda tough for him to do

 

[Maxiton]

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I for one hope Ricco recovers and kicks ass at the Giro. That would be hilarious.

And what will most of these riders say if/when he does? "Sorry for what we said, we had to, you know how it is. You are the Cobra, totally awesome!"

<snipped for brevity>What would Aldo Sassi say right now?

"I'm very disappointed, Ricco. How many times have we gone over this? Keep it below 2 degrees Celsius."

Hate the sin, love the sinner. And the sin isn't that big in the wide scheme of things.

Word. It's a dark day when a young man damages/kills himself following protocols that are pretty much standard practice in the peloton. Pro cycling just made a dark day worse by piling on with a bunch of classless, base, kick-him-when-he's-down hypocrisy. The upshot though, and the upside, is that it makes Rico look better by comparison.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I am getting abused on twitter for questioning a rider about their comments of ricco! The omerta is also applies with the fans

 

[Ferminal]

And what will most of these riders say if/when he does? "Sorry for what we said, we had to, you know how it is. You are the Cobra, totally awesome!"

Think a young Taylor_P after last years L-B-L.

 

[Benotti69]

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Word. It's a dark day when a young man damages/kills himself following protocols that are pretty much standard practice in the peloton. Pro cycling just made a dark day worse by piling on with a bunch of classless, base, kick-him-when-he's-down hypocrisy. The upshot though, and the upside, is that it makes Rico look better by comparison.

absolutely, the saddest thing out of the Ricco news is the hypocrisy of the riders tweets. Low very low.

we should have a thread to paste tweets into so we can dig them up when LA gets done and compare or when Contador gets 2 years from CAS.

 

[Benotti69]

I am getting abused on twitter for questioning a rider about their comments of ricco! The omerta is also applies with the fans

paste it in here so we can see the hypocrisy.

 

[Ferminal]

I am getting abused on twitter for questioning a rider about their comments of ricco! The omerta is also applies with the fans

lol, was this you?

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Greghenderson1
Some knobjockey abusing me on twitter cos I'm ****ed at Ricco for tainting the image of the sport I love....again!

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Of course, Hendo uses the operative word "image". Confirming that there is no problem with doping as long as it isn't so blatant as to "taint the image" of the sport.

 

[Benotti69]

lol, was this you?

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Greghenderson1
Some knobjockey abusing me on twitter cos I'm ****ed at Ricco for tainting the image of the sport I love....again!

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Of course, Hendo uses the operative word "image". Confirming that there is no problem with doping as long as it isn't so blatant as to "taint the image" of the sport.

someone should ask him what he's doing to clean up the sport he loves?

 

[auscyclefan94]

paste it in here so we can see the hypocrisy.

Check it out on my twitter

lol, was this you?

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Greghenderson1
Some knobjockey abusing me on twitter cos I'm ****ed at Ricco for tainting the image of the sport I love....again!

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Of course, Hendo uses the operative word "image". Confirming that there is no problem with doping as long as it isn't so blatant as to "taint the image" of the sport.

Not me but I had a go at Henderson and Quinziato!

 

[Benotti69]

Check it out on my twitter



Not me but I had a go at Henderson and Quinziato!

not on twitter myself and got this from your pages

ACycling_fan

This person has protected their tweets.

 

[ingsve]

Very well put.

I assume one reason Ricco is the subject of so much piling on is because of his reputation as a pr-ck. If Basso or DiLuca were in this situation, I find it hard to imagine there would be so much hate focussed on them.

Ya, I think that is a large part of it. It's a simple fact that it's a lot harder to criticize someone you like than it is to criticize someone you dislike.

I'm sure that if a guy like Cavendish gets caught doping then he would get a similar treatment to Ricco.

 

[auscyclefan94]

not on twitter myself and got this from your pages

try now!!!!!

 

[auscyclefan94]

I've just been blocked by the person...shame!

 

[Ney the Viking]

From Joe Papp's Twitter:

Is Riccardo Riccó the convenient villain who allows an entire peloton of dubious pro cyclists to manifest a mock sense of justice? Y/N?

Very appropriate if you ask me.

 

[frenchfry]

There is a story on the l'Equipe site about the rider's indignation.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2011/20110209_114429_le-peloton-condamne-ricco.html

In the comments the word "hyprocisy" comes up very often.

 

[hrotha]

In the end, who wins?

If they speak out = douchebags
If they stay quiet= keeping the omerta

I think riders and posters are humans, I for one opened my account more than two years and barely have 100 posts, I think you guys know a loooot
about cycling, and it's been fun and a privilege to learn as much as I can from you fine people. But sometimes it's really puzzling to me when you want things your way or the highway, and ufortunatelly IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY

No, you got it wrong.

If they speak out selectively depending on who's caught = huge hypocrites and bigger omertà keepers than anyone who decides to be silent about this and is consistent.

 

[Benotti69]

try now!!!!!

yep! thanks.

 

[Race Radio]

Adam is hardly the best target here. He has been consistent in his condemnation of dopers. His writing on Landis was excellent

So burn down Babylon. Burn pro cycling down. There will still be racing, there will still be races. Burn it down, so we can build it up again new. I condemn Landis' original decision to participate in a corrupt, immoral system. But I'll stand in front of the flames with him and watch it burn.

I'll shake his smokey hand the next time I see him.


Fabian Cancellara is a far better target. The same guy who rode for Riis, rides with the Schlecks and Kim Anderson told L'Equipe: “I think we should send him to the moon. That's all, because what kind of person doesn't understand about life. Once an idiot, always an idiot

Fabian thinks he is an idiot because he got caught, not because he is a doper.

 

[Paco_P]

The calculation is simple: by criticizing the guy who already got caught, and now caught himself, you meet your obligation to appear to your sponsors and your mother the beacon of hope in a dirty sport.

 

[kurtinsc]

I think in general, the huge response to Ricco has much less to do with the doping angle and much more to do with the fact that almost everyone hated him and they're all excited to not see him around anymore.

You see the same thing in any workplace. A well liked personable guy gets fired for incompetence and everyone is hoping he gets on his feat and wishing him well. An arrogant guy who belittles others gets fired for incompetence and there is a celebration.

We are simply seeing the latter here. The doping angle is completely secondary... the guy was simply hated by almost everyone in the peloton.

 

[mr. tibbs]

Adam is hardly the best target here. He has been consistent

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Fabian Cancellara is a far better target. The same guy who rode for Riis, rides with the Schlecks and Kim Anderson told L'Equipe: “I think we should send him to the moon. That's all, because what kind of person doesn't understand about life. Once an idiot, always an idiot

Fabian thinks he is an idiot because he got caught, not because he is a doper.

Exactly. This is what brought me to the thread. Do you think Cancellara says the same to Andy & Frank?

I can't believe Spartacus said this. I used to really like him, but this is some of the most blatant bull**** I've seen come out of a riders mouth.

What many in this thread have said is true: The problem isn't individual riders refusing to stand up against the institutionalized culture of doping (read: winning races/making money), the problem is the power structure that benefits from and perpetuates that culture.

The comments against Ricco come from this structure, benefiting it instead of challenging it. AM, that's what most of the people who responded negatively to your tweets are talking about. They aren't "apologists for Ricco," as you suggest; rather, they are refusing to accept that Ricco bear the responsibility for the instituliontalized doping created and perpetuated by this system of power.

 

[Darryl Webster]

The calculation is simple: by criticizing the guy who already got caught, and now caught himself, you meet your obligation to appear to your sponsors and your mother the beacon of hope in a dirty sport.

If they had a shred of dignity they`d stay silent.
I find it hard to grasp that "profesionals" can be so nauseateingly purile and stoop so low.
Feck..life must be tough when your ego`s are so fragile eh?

 

[runninboy]

No, you got it wrong.

If they speak out selectively depending on who's caught = huge hypocrites and bigger omertà keepers than anyone who decides to be silent about this and is consistent.

well said. In addition, it is amazing to me when you read the serious nature and threat to the persons health that i think it is absolutely shameful to make light of the persons situation. If you see someone is addicted to booze or drugs and watch them spiral out of control, do you mock them with comments like death is true the lifetime ban? What if Charlie Sheen or Lindsay Lohan were to lose a kidney from their actions, do you think Hollywood would be tweeting condemnation or support?

This absolutely shows the true selective nature of cyclists morality. How many have said something along the lines of
"I wish him a speedy recovery " or "hopefully this will lead to the man finally getting treatment for a serious problem"

Just because someone is a jerk or a cheater you don't revel in their misery. If not only for the respect of how fragile human life can be. but also that no man is an island. This person has family and people close to him who were obviously worried about his health. How would you like to be in a hospital at the bedside of a sick son and then hear how people were taking joy in his misery.
Just shameful behaviour.
Instead of making fun, maybe show a little respect and say nothing.
Then again we see the true nature of these little people...