Pro Rider reaction to Ricco news

[Skandar Akbar]

Why, because you are so fearful of having your own opinion?



You're clearly acting as "bait".




I've merely observed that you're an eternal monkey-wrencher. You've not participated in a meaningful way. All you do is try to bait people into doing something that I (presume) will be reported to the mods. You've been a here a short while, and all I have seen you do (so-far) is derail.

I am trying to evolve as a poster and your attacks are not contributing to my effort to fit in. I am unware of any poster being banned because of interaction with me.

I will not respond again to your off topic rants and your desire to molest my character. Please move on.

 

[forty four]

oh another obvious point since most on here are delusional and stupid and are not big on facts. when this story hit the news ricco was no longer in danger of death in any way. adam myersons comment and others were said after the fact more or less making fun of (riccos) dumb *** for his actions. no one wished him death directly in any shape or form you guys are like naive children grow up. there just talking **** about an idiot they dont like based on his *** attitude.
this is of course the same guy who left his pregnant wife once she got popped for epo? class act rofl. some of you really need to move on to a more foo foo sport where testing is minimal then you can pretend about top level athletes in any sport dumb and dumber on here. the only scumbag i dislike worse is that failed blackmailer landis.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

this is of course the same guy who left his pregnant wife once she got popped for epo? class act rofl. some of you really need to move on to a more foo foo sport where testing is minimal then you can pretend about top level athletes in any sport dumb and dumber on here. the only scumbag i dislike worse is that failed blackmailer landis.

While I have little problem with much of your sentiment, I feel the need to defend Vania Rossi on three counts here.

1) she may have been dumb enough to be caught with the CERA, but her B-sample came back negative, so she's back on the road (or in her case in the field). The reason for this has been supposed to be the decomposition of the CERA, but whatever the reason is, she's in the clear.

2) she may have been supposedly using CERA while the child was young, but she was not pregnant when she was caught using (she wouldn't have been racing while pregnant anyway), nor was she pregnant when Riccò "walked out on her". They reunited a while after anyway, and it was Vania's brother Enrico whose contacts got Riccò his Ceramica Flaminia contract in the first place.

3) Vania Rossi may have been stupid enough to use CERA whilst feasibly breastfeeding, and she may have been stupid enough to test positive, but she has not yet been stupid enough as to marry Riccardo Riccò.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Harmon is a ****wit, felt sick listening to his diatribe on Ricco. I thought maybe he had learned after going off about Vino last year - obviously not.

I much prefer someone like Ligget who is consistent and a doping apologist across the board. Harmon pretends to have a clue but seems to be nothing but a mouthpiece for the popular view of the peloton at any given time.

If people missed it - he more or less said "lock him up, give me the keys, and I will throw them in the Thames" (that was at the end of his 2-3minute rant). Is this really the same person that cautiously stepped around the Landis e-mails during the Giro last year?

Spot on. Harmon is embarrassing. He is too arrogant and up his own **** to accept that he was ever wrong about anything.

He is IMO at best xenophobic and at worst racist. He'll throw the likes of Ricco, Vino etc under the bus but can cheer on Armstrong or Dertie, Frodo or Piti.

So when someone like Armstrong, or Frodo goes down will the chorus of condemnation be quite so swift? I doubt it.

The funny thing is - by being so swift and vocal in their condemnation of Ricco they've shot themselves in the foot and shown themselves to be absolute complete hypocrites, and they've shown omerta in action.

 

[BotanyBay]

I am trying to evolve as a poster and your attacks are not contributing to my effort to fit in.
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I encourage you to share your actual viewpoint on the actual topic, rather than mocking those of others.

 

[Ryaguas]

Some Proa$$holes I mean "Pro Riders" are deleting "those" tweets... Is funny... Cowards and now not man enough to deal with their own words... what scumb@gs...

My personal opinion is:

IF this story about the transfusion is true:
D@MN IT Riccó! D@MN IT! 25 days man!! 25! FACK! Is common sense! Now the cycling has became a bit boring for me... No Contador, No Valverde, No you! arrrrrrg... You were so much fun... D@MN IT! I'll miss you a lot... Hope you recover soon and have a normal life... wish you the best!

IF He's totally clear as I hope so (FINGERS CROSSED):
That was close!!! recover soon Riccó!!! I need you riding!! Lets kick some arses in Il Giro and shut up lots of mouth... SUX THAT HATERS!!!!

 

[Sanitiser]

Ricco does seem to be a social deviant. I guess it's better that he found cycling than doing other things.

 

[Ryaguas]

Ahhhhhh BTW... THIS article:
CN Opinion about Riccó

Man... I want to throw up... I hope to never meet you Daniel Friebe... cuz you are not going to like it... I know that is easy to say that behind a PC but I say that seriously... bah...

 

[hrotha]

Ahhhhhh BTW... THIS article:
CN Opinion about Riccó

Man... I want to throw up... I hope to never meet you Daniel Friebe... cuz you are not going to like it... I know that is easy to say that behind a PC but I say that seriously... bah...

Would you please point out where you disagree with the author?

 

[Oldman]

How is it that Erik Breukink can get all foamed up about radios and the demands of all Pro-Tour teams when every GT contender, including Rabo's guys; are considered doped? That he even has anything to say about something so minor is laughable. Reading this Mr. Breukink? If you're worried about safety worry that Ricco almost self-administered a huge black eye on the whole sport and that Contador is "appealing". And I don't mean cute.

 

[Sanitiser]

The article seems quite well balanced, maybe too many pot-shots at the guy's intelligence.

 

[Skandar Akbar]

While I have little problem with much of your sentiment, I feel the need to defend Vania Rossi on three counts here.

1) she may have been dumb enough to be caught with the CERA, but her B-sample came back negative, so she's back on the road (or in her case in the field). The reason for this has been supposed to be the decomposition of the CERA, but whatever the reason is, she's in the clear.

2) she may have been supposedly using CERA while the child was young, but she was not pregnant when she was caught using (she wouldn't have been racing while pregnant anyway), nor was she pregnant when Riccò "walked out on her". They reunited a while after anyway, and it was Vania's brother Enrico whose contacts got Riccò his Ceramica Flaminia contract in the first place.

3) Vania Rossi may have been stupid enough to use CERA whilst feasibly breastfeeding, and she may have been stupid enough to test positive, but she has not yet been stupid enough as to marry Riccardo Riccò.

Whoa, the concern over breastfeeding is an eye opener. Is it possibe Ricco go the CERA in his system from sucking on her you know what's?

 

[BMXBandit]

Some Proa$$holes I mean "Pro Riders" are deleting "those" tweets... Is funny... Cowards and now not man enough to deal with their own words... what scumb@gs...

Can you name some of the guys that are doing it?
But to be fair I am not surprised. I think a lot of fans have picked up on the apparent double standard by a lot the pro riders tweeting and some are either rightly embarrassed or have been told my some internet savy DS's to shut up.

The sicking thing is, for 99% of the time they tweet banal stuff about training, airports, buses, traveling etc.. but then in this instance, which to my mind is not the biggest cycling story in the last 6 months, a lot of them wade in with off colour tweets about a guy who (liked or disliked) is still in hospital, and they target (as one poster correctly called it) the "the sinner" and not "the sin", well to me this is bull****.

 

[davestoller]

The article seems quite well balanced, maybe too many pot-shots at the guy's intelligence.

Well balanced="his hematocrit is higher than his IQ?" Is that statment well balanced, a la Fox News?????

BTWWhy is CN interested in propping up Ricco? Could it be that their interviewer had done several pieces on Ricco and now looks like a fool for laughing with Ricco???
Maybe?

You cant make a serious point and jackass statements like that.

I think the opinion article makes quite plain that neither Ricco NOR THE INTERVIEWER understood who was laughing at whom at any point. Nor who would or SHOULD have the last laugh. Or maybe it was just the poor writing quality that leaves one confused.

Quiz TIme boys and girls!!

The interviewer was:

1. Enabling Ricco by laughing?
2. Encouraging Ricco to keep saying "stupid" things that he could put in the article at Ricco's expense?
3. Mouthpiece-puppet for an indefensible moron?
4. Exploiting Ricco's badboy image to gain a momentary readership for a failing website?
5. all of the above

Yup, the correct answer is:

5. all of the above.

Then when your interviewee gets trashed BY THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW WHAT THE SCORE IS, ie the riders, then we (and by we I mean the pathetic author of the op ed piece) takes the moral high ground and criticizes who? THE pro peloton riders-of all people?!?!-- for criticizing a multiple repeat doping offender.

Way to stay classy CN.

Right?

 

[mewmewmew13]

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[Sanitiser]

The article seems quite well balanced, maybe too many pot-shots at the guy's intelligence.

I already qualified my answer.

 

[NashbarShorts]

Would you please point out where you disagree with the author?

Maybe the part about how the pro peloton would be "healthier place for never having known" Ricco? (Yeah, 'cause one rider is ruining an otherwise clean sport....)

Maybe the part about how "no rider, no matter how stupid or morally bankrupt" has the right to "ruin" a TdF? (Right, b/c those 1999-2005 TdFs were squeaky clean gems... CN, wanna go on the record and call Mr. Armstrong "stoopid"??)

Maybe the part about how Ricco has "taken US for a ride yet again"? (Please. Cyclingnews has been only too happy to covering this festering cesspool of a sport and tell us its a rose garden. CN, you ain't "us".)

Cyclingnews, you now want to be seen taking the high road, lamenting "oh woe is me" about Sr. Ricco?
Yet on the same day, you give press to Pozzatto and his "concern" for the sport????

POZZATO IS THE JERKWAD WHO LED THE PELOTON'S JEERING OF SIMEONI AFTER HE WAS BROUGHT BACK BY THE KING DOPER HIMSELF.

Cyclingnews, its too late to play it "straight". Only the completely mentally challenged among your readership are blind enough to not see that you are 100% complicit in this sport's race to the bottom.

 

[NashbarShorts]

I think I've just about reached the saturation point w/ this website. No matter how much CN spoonfeeds this cr*p and calls it sugar, it just can't get rid of the sh*tty aftertaste.

Kimmage was right.

 

[runninboy]

First... quit with the insults. You dont' know me, and you don't know what I may or may not do in any situation. At no point did I suggest that either... I mentioned celbrating that they were GONE.

I don't believe i was being insulting, i was trying to draw a parallel to illustrate what i consider barbaric thinking
You mention they were merely celebrating his absence

However the fact remains that as these people were celebrating the man was ill in a hospital. I mentioned that he is a human being and has family who care about him . If nothing else i would think about someone's family and loved ones and err on the side of discretion rather than the wholesale venting which we saw.

 

[runninboy]

yeah the person who hit me and drove off leaving me for dead i want to die and would love to have seen down the road dead in a mangled wreck yep. 6 billion plus humans running around some are not worth the carbon there made of and the world is better without them. it aint all peace and love in this world though that would be nice.

so you treat unlikeable bad humans the same as you do good kind like able trustworthy people? glad i dont work with you bro you are some what naive and childlike in your views of life or your a robot . yes when something bad happens to a pos i feel a lot less bad than when something happens to a good man or women real simple why wouldn't i wtf?. no one wished him dead they just dont feel for him or have sympathy because he is disliked for good reason. p.s. we are animals whats that have to do with anything?

Well you shared your personal experience, sorry to hear about that. I am also sorry that it filled you with so much bitterness.
I was also in a serious accident. I was a passenger in vehicle totaled by a drunk driver, i had to be pulled out with the jaws of life. I flatlined on the way to the hospital and was resucitated. It was touch and go whether i would make it. I had severe head trauma from impacting the windshield and lost a substanial portion of my memory. The officers estimated the speed around 100mph and found a case of beer in the front seat and the driver admitted to having drank most of the case.
My initial reaction wasn't anger , i was glad i was alive. The guy who stole my health, my memory. years of rehabilitation did something stupid. would holding onto anger towards him help my situation? Should i allow his careless act to keep robbing me of my life? Not once did i ever wish this guy harm. I wish it had never happened, i wish he knew the consequences of his actions. But i refuse to be manipulated by anger and live my life in a reactionary fashion and compound a bad situation by making it worse.
If you believe that is naive or childlike that is fine. You don't have to live my life nor i yours. I wish you the best and i only mention the above as i think sometimes people need to stop and think instead of reacting like an animal. Yes human beings are animals but we have a choice as to how we live our life. I was always taught to do everything to the best of my ability, and that way i would always have the satisfaction that i did my best. I strive to do so not only in competition but in the way i treat my fellow human beings, regardless of their behaviour towards me. If they choose to try and cheat me or manipulate me, that is their loss.I feel other peoples behaviour is no reflection on me or my intelligence. I don't attempt to control other people. Sometimes i provide information so they can see the other side of the coin. As i have here. I am not greedy so it is rare that i have been taken advantage of. I value all human life, so to me it is just as much a tragedy when a bad person dies as a good one as i see it as a life wasted.
You probably won't understand based on your earlier comments, but hopefully someone else reads this and finds some applicable value or application
Again we differ but i wish you the best.

 

[Sanitiser]

The other thing about the article is that is an opinion piece not a news article so there is a lot of editorial leeway.

 

[Oldman]

I think I've just about reached the saturation point w/ this website. No matter how much CN spoonfeeds this cr*p and calls it sugar, it just can't get rid of the sh*tty aftertaste.

Kimmage was right.

It's one of the few site where you can express that opinion and the posters actually don't completely fall in love with the sport's new "icons". Give it that and keep posting.

 

[frenchfry]

Pozzato speaks up:

"I think it's certainly something that does damage to all of cycling, and it damages all of us who are doing everything possible to ensure that cycling goes well and is credible in the eyes of the public," Pozzato told Cyclingnews in Qatar. "When things like this happen, it's a big blow to everybody. Let's hope that it's the last time that something like this happens, because I think it's very, very serious."

The cynic (realist?) in me interprets this as saying that the problem is that the doping was discovered (and in a dramatic way), not the doping itself.

Not once does Pozzato directly condemn doping in his statement. "Doing everything possible to ensure that cycling goes well and is credible in the eyes of the public." is incredibly vague and speaks more to the PR imperative than any move to actually eliminate the real problem - widespread doping.

The parallel universe that is pro cycling is amazingly resilient.

 

[Ferminal]

The cynic (realist?) in me interprets this as saying that the problem is that the doping was discovered (and in a dramatic way), not the doping itself.

Yes, this is what they are all saying.

None of them are concerned that he's doping, it's that he's "tarnishing the image of the sport". His doping isn't the problem, it's the fact that he's getting caught in the headlights once again.

I guess that's all a lot of them can say, because if they start coming out and saying "Ricco stupid doper don't you believe in a clean sport" it's kind of hypocritical because of the proximity everyone in the sport is to a doper (or are a doper themselves).

 

[hrotha]

Maybe the part about how the pro peloton would be "healthier place for never having known" Ricco? (Yeah, 'cause one rider is ruining an otherwise clean sport....)

Maybe the part about how "no rider, no matter how stupid or morally bankrupt" has the right to "ruin" a TdF? (Right, b/c those 1999-2005 TdFs were squeaky clean gems... CN, wanna go on the record and call Mr. Armstrong "stoopid"??)

Maybe the part about how Ricco has "taken US for a ride yet again"? (Please. Cyclingnews has been only too happy to covering this festering cesspool of a sport and tell us its a rose garden. CN, you ain't "us".)

Cyclingnews, you now want to be seen taking the high road, lamenting "oh woe is me" about Sr. Ricco?
Yet on the same day, you give press to Pozzatto and his "concern" for the sport????

POZZATO IS THE JERKWAD WHO LED THE PELOTON'S JEERING OF SIMEONI AFTER HE WAS BROUGHT BACK BY THE KING DOPER HIMSELF.

Cyclingnews, its too late to play it "straight". Only the completely mentally challenged among your readership are blind enough to not see that you are 100% complicit in this sport's race to the bottom.

Quite frankly, you're setting up one strawman after another. The article never once says Riccò was the only problem or that Pozzato and Armstrong aren't the problem. In fact, its point is the complete opposite, and it alludes to Armstrong quite clearly. You're imagining things because you don't think CN can do right.