I am telling you guys, the only sports that will be affected by this are cycling and athletics (as usual). Tennis (Nadal) and football blood bags are long gone. It really pi**es me off
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if i'm not mistaken, regular blood transfusions and epo treatment can complement each other, i.e. it's not necessarily a matter of either/or.Tienus said:There are no blood bags required in football as there is no testing for EPO.
Aw, can't we do it just to kill some time?SeriousSam said:Remember, football isn't an endurance sport so there's no need to check for blood doping.
fair point.SeriousSam said:Remember, football isn't an endurance sport so there's no need to check for blood doping.
Pantani Attacks said:Anyone suspect any big names to be outed? Heras, Contador, Schleck, Beloki and Botero are the only ones who would appear to have some worry over them. The likes of Valverde and Basso already got done.
SeriousSam said:Remember, football isn't an endurance sport so there's no need to check for blood doping.
StryderHells said:Pantani Attacks said:Anyone suspect any big names to be outed? Heras, Contador, Schleck, Beloki and Botero are the only ones who would appear to have some worry over them. The likes of Valverde and Basso already got done.
I might be wrong but I think Contador was linked but never to any of the blood bags
sniper said:fair point.SeriousSam said:Remember, football isn't an endurance sport so there's no need to check for blood doping.
you either have technique or you don't.
It's a bit unclear but from what I've gathered his name and initials were only on some papers.StryderHells said:Pantani Attacks said:Anyone suspect any big names to be outed? Heras, Contador, Schleck, Beloki and Botero are the only ones who would appear to have some worry over them. The likes of Valverde and Basso already got done.
I might be wrong but I think Contador was linked but never to any of the blood bags
yep, very much so.Pantani Attacks said:sniper said:fair point.SeriousSam said:Remember, football isn't an endurance sport so there's no need to check for blood doping.
you either have technique or you don't.
It's a genius disguise. However upon looking at the likes of Atletico and Leicester in recent years and Barcelona of a few years back, it shows high endurance can have amazing benefits. Of course these teams have had players of immense talent, but Leicester and Atletico in particular, some of their players have had Froome like improvements in recent times.
Pantani Attacks said:Anyone suspect any big names to be outed? Heras, Contador, Schleck, Beloki and Botero are the only ones who would appear to have some worry over them. The likes of Valverde and Basso already got done.
HelmutRoole said:You have to stratify the media. You can’t expect a top strata news organization like the New York Times – and it is print journalists who mostly do this work – to give a rat’s *** about someone like, for example, a Tom Danielson. Armstrong: clearly a different beast in terms of coverage since he has celebrity outside of cycling.
(Sidebar: In defense of the media reference Armstrong, you have to balance that coverage in perspective with 9-11, Afghanistan and the Iraq rematch, all going down during this timeframe. Comparatively, an Armstrong doping piece is uninteresting, unimportant and not even on an editor’s radar. Although, there was SI. They probably should’ve looked at it a little closer. )
For something like the Danielson story, that work has to be done by Velonews, Cyclingnews, Pez... In other words, a news organization on the lower rungs of the media strata that cover that specific sport, this case cycling. Problem with this is, those reporters are cozy with the athletes. This is true with sports reporting in general. It’s like that everywhere, every sport. The only way around it is to have a dedicated doping reporter on staff who doesn’t interact with the athletes in any other way. I’ll bet that any reporter covering cycling in North American has at some point sat down for a beer with an athlete whom they were reporting on or had reported on. I’ve done it myself. It probably happens everywhere.
Look, I’m a fan of professional cycling not despite the doping but in large part because of it. The doping makes it real. Not the performances. The performances are unreal. But when an athlete gets caught up in an investigation or pisses hot, that’s when things get real. That’s when all parties involved go into crisis mode, spinning truthiness, marginal gains, special diets and high cadence. People’s livelihoods and reputations hang in the balance. Millions of dollars at stake. And it’s all based on a lie.
High drama. You can’t make this stuff up.
Pantani Attacks said:Anyone suspect any big names to be outed? Heras, Contador, Schleck, Beloki and Botero are the only ones who would appear to have some worry over them. The likes of Valverde and Basso already got done.
Imagine the prices it would fetch on the black market. "Vintage Nectar of the Gods"lenric said:They could hand them to current teams. They would be quite helpful to get some riders into form. I'm thinking of Aru, for example.
Lyon said:Imagine the prices it would fetch on the black market. "Vintage Nectar of the Gods"lenric said:They could hand them to current teams. They would be quite helpful to get some riders into form. I'm thinking of Aru, for example.
You gotta admit Fuentes was a real moron when choosing nicknames sometimes.Benotti69 said:https://twitter.com/Noaldopaje/status/742691004357181440