Pulling a Wiggins

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Benotti69 said:
King Boonen said:
Honestly, I think almost any team would love Froome. Currently he's as much as a guaranteed TdF win as anyone has ever been.

I think a lot of teams would be hesitant in case he gets caught up in the fall out from Sky.

Dimension Data would hire him. They've just about soaked enough money out of the UK. Time to dry up South Africa.
 
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Kenworthy finds Wiggins' silence and Brailsford's claims unworthy, "extraordinary;very disappointing.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-switches-management-agency-following-tue-fall-out/

So everybody can remember this from five years ago, but no-one can remember what was in the package. That strikes me as being extraordinary. It is very disappointing."

"There's still no definite answer from anyone who was involved. I still don't know what was in there; I'm no nearer finding out than you are."

The head of the Culture, Media and Sport committee, Damian Collins MP, has suggested that those involved in the initial hearing could be invited back to give fresh evidence, along with new witnesses. That will only happen when UKAD has wrapped up its investigation.

"We're not giving up on this," said Kenworthy, "and we'll dig and delve and find out what was in that package.

This implies that the head of UKADA thinks Brailsford has lied to the parliamentary inquiry.

This doesn't look good for Wiggins, Brailsford or Sky. Looks like a scapegoat is required: perfect we have a drunk and freshly-retired one right now.
 
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This isn't going away, in fact, it's escalating: I'm going to call it -

*Froome will be made to sit-out the 2017 Tour

*Nibali to inherit the 2012 Tour

The 2012 London Olympics ITT Gold and Bronze medals? Anyone's guess.

I just wish someone with gravitas and cojones would pull in Zorzoli, grill him, <edited by mods>.
 
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sniper said:
Zorzoli, you're absolutely right to name this man's name and wonder why he hasn't been grilled yet.

And how is that Belgian investigation into Leinders going?
2013: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-belgian-federation-to-investigate-dr-leinders/

I'm having a toast to those predictions of yours.

And where's Cookson? Leading a fact-finding mission to holding the 2019 Worlds on Olympus Mons on Mars? "We want to give our scion, Chris Froome, a chance to become Solar-System champ on his home planet."
 
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I'm crackin up.
The Fancybears now have Wiggins as their twitter profile photo.
Even the Russians think he's the biggest fraud.
 
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meat puppet said:
Would that it were so.

However, more likely froome will be awarded the 2012. Then he wins a couple more to topple indurain. The fans deserve to see you can win more than five clean.


I agree. And if UKAD ever decide to wake up, Brailford will kill them with doublespeak. Cycling is too funny.
 
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DamianoMachiavelli said:
LOL. Floyd goes full *** in his new interview. Some classic quotes about Wiggins. Check it out.

“I’m an Amish pacifist. But if I ever cross paths with Wiggins I’m gonna punch him so hard, he wouldn’t know what the xxxx happened.”


:lol:

“He was in the gruppetto! I mean, I never talked to him. If he had yelled, I wouldn’t have heard it. That’s how far back in the peloton he was. He sucked. He was good on the track. We knew that. But he was barely average on the road. Barely. "

:lol:
 
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ChewbaccaDefense said:
Sorped said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
LOL. Floyd goes full *** in his new interview. Some classic quotes about Wiggins. Check it out.

Got a link?

https://rouleur.cc/editorial/54468-2/

I only wish it were longer and not as redacted.

There will be a much longer article in the print version. I don't know if it is out yet since I don't want to drop the bones--many many bones--that a Roleur subscription costs, even if it is probably the best cycling periodical available today. The pre print version is is quite extensive. Good stuff and not just for some choice quotes about Wiggins.
 
Much of Wiggins views on Landis came out of what Michael Barry & Zabriskie told him about Landis I believe, especially the mental state of Landis stuff. He's since admitted he was wrong and the comments were stupid as they were based on what others said of Landis, not his own views. He said back in 2013 I think, they were stupid to say. Sounds like Landis needs an apology to me. Sure they could do some 'bonding' while smoking a big fat one now Wiggins has retired!
 
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samhocking said:
Much of Wiggins views on Landis came out of what Michael Barry & Zabriskie told him about Landis I believe, especially the mental state of Landis stuff. He's since admitted he was wrong and the comments were stupid as they were based on what others said of Landis, not his own views. He said back in 2013 I think, they were stupid to say. Sounds like Landis needs an apology to me. Sure they could do some 'bonding' while smoking a big fat one now Wiggins has retired!

Wiggins was and still is a C**T of the highest order.

Considering Zabriskie is a mate of Landis i doubt you are telling the truth. But your posts always try to shine a positive spin on anything Sky related. Public strategies left over.......
 
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Benotti69 said:
samhocking said:
Much of Wiggins views on Landis came out of what Michael Barry & Zabriskie told him about Landis I believe, especially the mental state of Landis stuff. He's since admitted he was wrong and the comments were stupid as they were based on what others said of Landis, not his own views. He said back in 2013 I think, they were stupid to say. Sounds like Landis needs an apology to me. Sure they could do some 'bonding' while smoking a big fat one now Wiggins has retired!

Wiggins was and still is a C**T of the highest order.

Considering Zabriskie is a mate of Landis i doubt you are telling the truth. But your posts always try to shine a positive spin on anything Sky related. Public strategies left over.......

I think it's more what Lance told Wiggins. Wiggins was very much in love with Lance at that point, so he would do and say anything to impress his hero.
 
I have no trouble believing Zabriskie may have told Wiggins that Landis wasn't in a good place at the time, mentally - Landis has said so much himself. But there's a world of difference between mentioning it in a private conversation, in god knows what specific context and presumably with neutral or positive undertones, and using that information in public to attack someone you don't even know personally because of something he said which you know was true but didn't like for whatever reason. Wiggins exploited someone's alleged mental health issues to drag him through the mud and discredit him. That's bona fide c**t behaviour, not only towards Landis but towards anyone with a mental health issue.
 
Majority of the cycling press, national press and even riders who knew Landis well were never on Landis's side until after the reasoned decision and that was at the time Wiggins said all that personal stuff about Landis (from Barry, Zabriskie, Garmin time etc). He was just regurgitating the same as everyone else were before the reasoned decision on Armstrong.
People like Zabriskie called Landis the day after of the reasoned decision to apologise and now they are best buddies again. Just listen to the cyclingtips podcast from last year, it explains a lot.
What sent Landis over the edge mentally (according to him) was, when Landis came back in 2009, it was the same year as Armstrong. The press were using his lack of performance on the bike, to justify he must have been doping and clearly a mentalist liar, while at the same time cheering Armstrong's strong comeback and the new clean era. Wiggins was 4th in Tour that year. That is what this is all about between Landis & Wiggins. Wiggins joined that crap comeback mentalist brigade as he was still in the Armstrong bubble like everyone else was during the comeback year, yet nobody saw the irony of saying what they were saying. Pretty sick and that's where Landis himself admits he turned to his hip prescription drugs, alcohol and lots of recreational drugs to deal with it and the fact, even just 2 years earlier, Wiggins was so anti doping, but then when near the podium riding with Armstrong again didn't back up Landis. That's his own words.
 
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yaco said:
Isn't Landis chasing whiste blower money if the US Government succeeds in their court case against Armstrong ? It paints a pretty picture !

Actually, its the US Government who is seeking restitution under the Federal Crimes Act for the money that Armstrong illegally used to profit from.

I didn't pick you as an Armstrong fan but I guess you like Wiggins so not a long stretch to make :cool:
 
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thehog said:
yaco said:
Isn't Landis chasing whiste blower money if the US Government succeeds in their court case against Armstrong ? It paints a pretty picture !

Actually, its the US Government who is seeking restitution under the Federal Crimes Act for the money that Armstrong illegally used to profit from.

I didn't pick you as an Armstrong fan but I guess you like Wiggins so not a long stretch to make :cool:

Yes - And Landis is due to get 30% of any money if the US Government is successful in their court case against Armstrong - Strange that no-one else in the ' Armstrong Coterie' thought to be a whistle-blower - How convenient; Testify when your career is finished with the potential bonus of a big pay day - It says lots about Landis' character.

Because I correctly point out that UKAD needs to produce evidence to charge Wiggins, that somehow equates to me being supportive of Wiggins.

You are drawing a long bow with your latest post.