Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[Carols]

Great Job Purito!!! I was so happy he made it in with all the other GC guys

 

[Kwibus]

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Its funny how some fans following his today's stage win that was very much suited to his characteristics are talking about TDF podium.

Just wait for tomorrow. Purito, along with many other "smaller" riders will lose big time and this silly talk about podium will be over for good.

Before the TdF started I considered Rodriguez to have a serious shot at the podium this year. Things to work out for him well though, if he doesn't loe too much in the first 9 days that is. Yes that's a problem for him, obviously.
We still don't know how he will do on the longer climbs as well, but today he showed us an oldschool Purito move and to be honest that was quite long ago as well.

Not sure why I reply with a serious comment though since your pretty much a troll anyways. A bit like Ryo's little cousin.

No, I'm not a troll and if your read my past posts in this thread you would notice that I have stated that Purito should focus on short uphill stages, just like today. He is good at those, no doubt about that but that does not make him a podium contender ... unless there is a carnage every day and another 5 or so "favorites" will crash out.

Top 10 if he is lucky ...

Again, I still do accept avatar bets for Purito podium GC

I know you are not really trolling. You just come across like one.
Still I like it when people with big mouths and denigrating attitude are proven wrong.

 

[Kwibus]

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I was wondering how many stages he could win. There is a lot of these short, steep stages in the Tour.

Stage 6:


Stage 8:


Stage 14:


He should be a contender on stage 8 and 14, but is stage 6 too soft? If he wants to podium, he needs more bonus seconds.

Stage 6 not at all.
Stage 8, I doubt it. Not steep enough for his jump.
Stage 14, He won on the same finish in 2010.

 

[Velolover2]

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I was wondering how many stages he could win. There is a lot of these short, steep stages in the Tour.

Stage 6:


Stage 8:


Stage 14:


He should be a contender on stage 8 and 14, but is stage 6 too soft? If he wants to podium, he needs more bonus seconds.

Stage 6 not at all.
Stage 8, I doubt it. Not steep enough for his jump.
Stage 14, He won on the same finish in 2010.

So:
Stage 6: Sagan vs. Matthews.
Stage 8: Martin vs. Kwiatkowski (and maybe Valverde, but I don't think is 100%)
Stage 14: Purito, Valverde (if feeling better), Froome, Contador

 

[Velolover2]

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I was wondering how many stages he could win. There is a lot of these short, steep stages in the Tour.

Stage 6:


Stage 8:


Stage 14:


He should be a contender on stage 8 and 14, but is stage 6 too soft? If he wants to podium, he needs more bonus seconds.

Stage 6 not at all.
Stage 8, I doubt it. Not steep enough for his jump.
Stage 14, He won on the same finish in 2010.

So:
Stag 6: Sagan vs. Matthews.
Stage 8: Martin vs. Kwiatkowski (and maybe Valverde, but I don't think is 100%)
Stage 14: Purito, Valverde (if feeling better), Froome, Contador

I don't know how Matthews is feeling. He had a bad crash. But other than him, is there even anyone who can challenge Sagan? I think it's too hard for Degenkolb/Kristoff.

 

[TMP402]

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I was wondering how many stages he could win. There is a lot of these short, steep stages in the Tour.

Stage 6:


Stage 8:


Stage 14:


He should be a contender on stage 8 and 14, but is stage 6 too soft? If he wants to podium, he needs more bonus seconds.

Stage 6 not at all.
Stage 8, I doubt it. Not steep enough for his jump.
Stage 14, He won on the same finish in 2010.

So:
Stag 6: Sagan vs. Matthews.
Stage 8: Martin vs. Kwiatkowski (and maybe Valverde, but I don't think is 100%)
Stage 14: Purito, Valverde (if feeling better), Froome, Contador

I don't know how Matthews is feeling. He had a bad crash. But other than him, is there even anyone who can challenge Sagan? I think it's too hard for Degenkolb/Kristoff.

On the OGE youtube channel, Matthews holds his chest and has to take unnaturally shallow breaths while talking. He really ought to DNS tomorrow but the lure of stage 6 will be too great I guess. As for who could challenge Sagan: Cimolai, Albasini, Gallopin, Stybar and EBH could be second-tier contenders for the stage.

 

[Velolover2]

Yes, it's a stage for the true puncheurs. GVA is another good bet.

 

[DBotero]

 

[DFA123]

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I was wondering how many stages he could win. There is a lot of these short, steep stages in the Tour.

Stage 6:


Stage 8:


Stage 14:


He should be a contender on stage 8 and 14, but is stage 6 too soft? If he wants to podium, he needs more bonus seconds.

Stage 6 not at all.
Stage 8, I doubt it. Not steep enough for his jump.
Stage 14, He won on the same finish in 2010.

So:
Stag 6: Sagan vs. Matthews.
Stage 8: Martin vs. Kwiatkowski (and maybe Valverde, but I don't think is 100%)
Stage 14: Purito, Valverde (if feeling better), Froome, Contador

I don't know how Matthews is feeling. He had a bad crash. But other than him, is there even anyone who can challenge Sagan? I think it's too hard for Degenkolb/Kristoff.

What is the run in like to the finish on stage 6? I know it is nearly 1km at 7% followed by a short false flat, but will they steam into the steeper section at 60km/h, or does it come after a slow tight corner, where everyone then has to accelerate up to full speed? I think that will make the difference as to whether it is one for Sagan/Kristoff/Matthews or one which Rodriguez/Valverde/Martin could have a decent chance at.

 

[Kwibus]

I love these kind of pictures and Purito always has a great pain face.

Well I will certainly keep on cheering this guy on.

 

[Arredondo]

I'm back after a beautiful trip to Zeeland. I saw Purito with my own eyes, suffering like hell

His stage win on Mur de Huy was impressive. And i'm glad my confidence in him was based on true facts. I think he's capable of fighting for the podium spot. Contador looks vulnerable.

 

[Squirbos_19]

Another stage he has to take advantage on and must top 3 IMO. He's clearly in good form and I think he's capable of achieving this.
Unfortunately Katusha will suffer in the TTT with Kozontchuk and now Paolini out. He may need to reassess his goals after stage 9 but I still think he's in with a shot at finishing on the final podium, but there's a lot to come.

 

[Velolover2]

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Another stage he has to take advantage on and must top 3 IMO. He's clearly in good form and I think he's capable of achieving this.
Unfortunately Katusha will suffer in the TTT with Kozontchuk and now Paolini out. He may need to reassess his goals after stage 9 but I still think he's in with a shot at finishing on the final podium, but there's a lot to come.

Yep. He desperately needs all the bonus seconds he can get if he wants a good GC. He can start tomorrow by gaining time on his rivals. I think a top 3 is required. But I don't know if the stage is selective enough.

 

[Jancouver]

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I'm back after a beautiful trip to Zeeland. I saw Purito with my own eyes, suffering like hell

His stage win on Mur de Huy was impressive. And i'm glad my confidence in him was based on true facts. I think he's capable of fighting for the podium spot. Contador looks vulnerable.

So far he is doing good and is using his experience to the fullest. Nobody can question that.

On the other hand, the real race did not start yet and you have about 20 GC hopefuls within 4-6 minutes.

We shall see this Sunday as the TTT may be a problem for Katusha after Luca got busted and they will have to be careful with the "nutrition" nowadays

 

[cantpedal]

I'll be pulling for him tomorrow. If I had to pick maybe the one guy I'd pick to have a few beers with. Anybody that passes out cigars riding through Paris in the Tour has to be a pretty good guy.

 

[WheelofGear]

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2015/07/10/tour_francia/1436559303_138295.html

Looks like he is up for it. He hope he gives it a shot. But he needs to be in a good position if he wants to win it. Losing Luca on a nervous stage with narrow roads could affect his chances.

Valverde seems to be less sure about his chances. I think he has to protect Quintana.

 

[Gigs_98]

Rodriguez will be far behind after the TTT (at least I fear so) which is a huge problem for him. Purito isn't the kind of rider who goes on long range attacks, he always got his time by attacking on the last few kilometers but with that tactic he will hardly be able to pull the time back, which he already lost and which he will loose tomorrow.

 

[Arredondo]

I think he realises he needs to attack from far out. I'm convinced he can do it. He did it in the past (Giro 2011 Sestriere stage), and he knows the only way to finish on the podium is to attack from far out. And with already 1 stage win (perhaps 2) under his belt, he's in the position to do it.

 

[SeriousSam]

Attacking from far out is romantic and all, but it doesn't work when the Big 4 and their mountain superdomestiques are in formation.

 

[Arredondo]

Bad day today. Hope he can recover for the mountain stages.

 

[DBotero]

I was expecting a win here but he didn't have it today.Hopefully tomorrow Katusha will do decent enough to keep him in contention.

 

[Miburo]

I think he'll lose 2 minutes at least

 

[Arredondo]

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I think he'll lose 2 minutes at least

I think 3

 

[TI-Raleigh]

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Attacking from far out is romantic and all, but it doesn't work when the Big 4 and their mountain superdomestiques are in formation.

No kidding. Once those trains are pulling hard, no one that is a threat is going to get any serious distance.

 

[rm7]

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Attacking from far out is romantic and all, but it doesn't work when the Big 4 and their mountain superdomestiques are in formation.

It's very romantic, and people sometimes make it sound so easy. But it can only be done if the circumstanses are right.

IF Froome will be very dominant and beat everybody on the MTF's, then I can see Tinkoff, Katusha, Astana and Moviestar put people in breaks and try to attack from far, because then it's only SKY who will chase.

But unfortunely there is always some team (could be TJ with BMC in this Tour), that wants to protect a top5 GC spot or something like that.

JRod have nothing to loose after tomorrow. He'll be far back in the GC, and I dont think he care about a top5 GC spot.