Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[seldon71]

How quickly people forget...

Just 4 years ago there was a Tour with 2! long-range attacks really turning the race upside down. One by Andy Schleck on Stage 18 and then another by Contador right next day...

While Contador's attack was eventually about neutralised, it was bold enough to absolutely decimate the helpers...

If Bertie finds himself too far away of Maillot Jeune, you can expect him to try something suicidally brave. It may not work, but it will definitely blow race open and destroy any pretension of "controlling the race thru' domestiques"

 

[Arredondo]

I feared a loss between 2-3 minutes. At the end, it's 1.49.

So strangely it's better then i expected, even it's a lot.

However, operation 'gaining time back' has begun. Again

 

[Jancouver]

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I feared a loss between 2-3 minutes. At the end, it's 1.49.

So strangely it's better then i expected, even it's a lot.

However, operation 'gaining time back' has begun. Again

You are a true fan, I have to give you that!

 

[Miburo]

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I feared a loss between 2-3 minutes. At the end, it's 1.49.

So strangely it's better then i expected, even it's a lot.

However, operation 'gaining time back' has begun. Again

But that means he has to attack

 

[DBotero]

Bad TTT for Katusha.So basically J.Rod lost time to all the other GC guys

 

[Arredondo]

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I feared a loss between 2-3 minutes. At the end, it's 1.49.

So strangely it's better then i expected, even it's a lot.

However, operation 'gaining time back' has begun. Again

But that means he has to attack

Yes, in this position he will do. Podium will be almightly difficult. I rather see him chasing the polka dots and stages.

But let's wait till Pierre Saint-Martin. If he's able to follow the big four, then something is possible.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

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Yes, in this position he will do. Podium will be almightly difficult. I rather see him chasing the polka dots and stages.

But let's wait till Pierre Saint-Martin. If he's able to follow the big four, then something is possible.

The podium will be difficult but it's not too difficult to imagine. If Contador fades because of the Giro I can see Purito getting on the podium without too much difficulty to be honest. Beating Froome and Quintana will be almost impossible unless they crash or get ill or something, but Valverde appears to be in a horrible shape, Nibali isn't looking good either and the rest are way below Purito as far as climbing is concerned. So if Purito is in top shape and if one of Froome, Quintana or Contador gets caught out - I think Contador fading because of the Giro is the most likely - I can see Purito ending on the podium again. However, those are two pretty big ifs to be honest.

But anyways, one of those ifs can be answered on Pierre Saint-Martin indeed. We'll see whether Purito can stay with the best climbers there.

 

[movingtarget]

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I feared a loss between 2-3 minutes. At the end, it's 1.49.

So strangely it's better then i expected, even it's a lot.

However, operation 'gaining time back' has begun. Again

But that means he has to attack

Yes, in this position he will do. Podium will be almightly difficult. I rather see him chasing the polka dots and stages.

But let's wait till Pierre Saint-Martin. If he's able to follow the big four, then something is possible.

I think top five is more realistic if he climbs well.

 

[Arredondo]

6 minutes! 6!

Tour is over. Stage win perhaps? I don't have any confidence anymore in that tbh.

Bad day? Bad shape? Last should be strange, he was so good on the Mur

 

[DBotero]

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6 minutes! 6!

Tour is over. Stage win perhaps? I don't have any confidence anymore in that tbh.

Bad day? Bad shape? Last should be strange, he was so good on the Mur

Disaster today.He should go for the KOM jersey or a stage win.He was looking very good,didn't expected this outcome

 

[Arredondo]

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6 minutes! 6!

Tour is over. Stage win perhaps? I don't have any confidence anymore in that tbh.

Bad day? Bad shape? Last should be strange, he was so good on the Mur

Disaster today.He should go for the KOM jersey or a stage win.He was looking very good,didn't expected this outcome

I just hope he can regroup himself. Those good legs from the Mur can't be gone in a few days

 

[Squirbos_19]

Did not expect this
Maybe he should stay until the next rest day, try and win a few stages and fight for KoM and if he isn't close then just abandon. But if he can win KoM then he can stay to the end.

 

[Jancouver]

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Its funny how some fans following his today's stage win that was very much suited to his characteristics are talking about TDF podium.

Just wait for tomorrow. Purito, along with many other "smaller" riders will lose big time and this silly talk about podium will be over for good.

Before the TdF started I considered Rodriguez to have a serious shot at the podium this year. Things to work out for him well though, if he doesn't loe too much in the first 9 days that is. Yes that's a problem for him, obviously.
We still don't know how he will do on the longer climbs as well, but today he showed us an oldschool Purito move and to be honest that was quite long ago as well.

Not sure why I reply with a serious comment though since your pretty much a troll anyways. A bit like Ryo's little cousin.

No, I'm not a troll and if your read my past posts in this thread you would notice that I have stated that Purito should focus on short uphill stages, just like today. He is good at those, no doubt about that but that does not make him a podium contender ... unless there is a carnage every day and another 5 or so "favorites" will crash out.

Top 10 if he is lucky ...

Again, I still do accept avatar bets for Purito podium GC

Well, I think I do deserve some apologies from all the fanboys after taking some heat for being skeptic or rather realistic about his "Podium" ambitions

 

[Arredondo]

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Its funny how some fans following his today's stage win that was very much suited to his characteristics are talking about TDF podium.

Just wait for tomorrow. Purito, along with many other "smaller" riders will lose big time and this silly talk about podium will be over for good.

Before the TdF started I considered Rodriguez to have a serious shot at the podium this year. Things to work out for him well though, if he doesn't loe too much in the first 9 days that is. Yes that's a problem for him, obviously.
We still don't know how he will do on the longer climbs as well, but today he showed us an oldschool Purito move and to be honest that was quite long ago as well.

Not sure why I reply with a serious comment though since your pretty much a troll anyways. A bit like Ryo's little cousin.

No, I'm not a troll and if your read my past posts in this thread you would notice that I have stated that Purito should focus on short uphill stages, just like today. He is good at those, no doubt about that but that does not make him a podium contender ... unless there is a carnage every day and another 5 or so "favorites" will crash out.

Top 10 if he is lucky ...

Again, I still do accept avatar bets for Purito podium GC

Well, I think I do deserve some apologies from all the fanboys after taking some heat for being skeptic or rather realistic about his "Podium" ambitions

No, because his results this year showed podium was a realistic goal. Cycling isn't mathematics. Sometimes you just don't have it.

 

[Jancouver]

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No, because his results this year showed podium was a realistic goal. Cycling isn't mathematics. Sometimes you just don't have it.

I agree with you, sometimes you just dont have it

... and some riders more often than others, especially those past their prime

BTW you do remind me of when I was a "young" man. I used to bet with my heart on my favorites teams losing money left and right. Then I changed my strategy and started to bet against my teams as it was a win-win situation. When my team lost, I made money, when they won I was happy they won and didnt mind the monetary loss. That strategy opened my eyes and I became more realistic about sports.

These days I dont gamble and when I play the CQ game, I split it between heart and head.

So pull your head out of the sand, open your eyes and be realistic about those you do care about. There will be less disappointment in your life.

 

[Arredondo]

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No, because his results this year showed podium was a realistic goal. Cycling isn't mathematics. Sometimes you just don't have it.

I agree with you, sometimes you just dont have it

... and some riders more often than others, especially those past their prime

BTW you do remind me of when I was a "young" man. I used to bet with my heart on my favorites teams losing money left and right. Then I changed my strategy and started to bet against my teams as it was a win-win situation. When my team lost, I made money, when they won I was happy they won and didnt mind the monetary loss. That strategy opened my eyes and I became more realistic about sports.

These days I dont gamble and when I play the CQ game, I split it between heart and head.

So pull your head out of the sand, open your eyes and be realistic about those you do care about. There will be less disappointment in your life.

I find it so funny people just don't look at the results. Winner of Pais Vasco, 3rd in LBL, 4th FW, 8th Dauphiné (best pre-race in his career) and dominant winner on Mur de Huy in the Tour.

Why can't i have the confidence in a good GC with these results?

I'm the first person to admit if someone is past his prime. But based on the results, it's nonsense to say he is. Perhaps today showed he's past his prime, perhaps it's just a bad day. I'm not going to yell in emotion and forget the facts.

 

[Gigs_98]

I actually expected that he will do good

 

[Netserk]

As expected today





Okay, perhaps a little worse than expected

 

[Arredondo]

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As expected today





Okay, perhaps a little worse than expected

What kind of Tour did you expect anyway? I'm really curious

 

[Kwibus]

Re: Re:

Its funny how some fans following his today's stage win that was very much suited to his characteristics are talking about TDF podium.

Just wait for tomorrow. Purito, along with many other "smaller" riders will lose big time and this silly talk about podium will be over for good.

Before the TdF started I considered Rodriguez to have a serious shot at the podium this year. Things to work out for him well though, if he doesn't loe too much in the first 9 days that is. Yes that's a problem for him, obviously.
We still don't know how he will do on the longer climbs as well, but today he showed us an oldschool Purito move and to be honest that was quite long ago as well.

Not sure why I reply with a serious comment though since your pretty much a troll anyways. A bit like Ryo's little cousin.

No, I'm not a troll and if your read my past posts in this thread you would notice that I have stated that Purito should focus on short uphill stages, just like today. He is good at those, no doubt about that but that does not make him a podium contender ... unless there is a carnage every day and another 5 or so "favorites" will crash out.

Top 10 if he is lucky ...

Again, I still do accept avatar bets for Purito podium GC

Well, I think I do deserve some apologies from all the fanboys after taking some heat for being skeptic or rather realistic about his "Podium" ambitions

It's more about the way you communicate than if you are right or wrong. I have absolutely no problem if someone disagrees with me, but roll-eyeing and ridiculing is more for kids.

 

[Netserk]

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As expected today





Okay, perhaps a little worse than expected

What kind of Tour did you expect anyway? I'm really curious

Between 5th and 10th in GC, probably in the middle.

 

[Arredondo]

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As expected today





Okay, perhaps a little worse than expected

What kind of Tour did you expect anyway? I'm really curious

Between 5th and 10th in GC, probably in the middle.

So you think he will progress in the Alps?

I rather see him chasing stages then fighting for 7th.

 

[Netserk]

That's what I thought before the Tour started. I still think he can get a top-10 placement. Not near 5th though. I doubt he will win another stage, but if he goes in some breaks, it's definitely possible.

 

[Arredondo]

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That's what I thought before the Tour started. I still think he can get a top-10 placement. Not near 5th though. I doubt he will win another stage, but if he goes in some breaks, it's definitely possible.

I hope for that 2nd scenario. And that he will be fine for La Vuelta.

 

[Billie]

Would not surprise me if Purito goes for the KoM jersey. He said he really likes that jersey and he's the perfect rider to chase it.