QS 2018

[Bonimenier]

you remember that not a single team was interested in Asgreen and QS just gave him a chance bc they really needed another rider?

You should do better research before making false statements.

 

[Goren]

They signed Asgreen when he was 21, and he had already proven that he was good TT'er among some other things.
They signed Sénéchal when he was 23, and he already had some decent results in the classics before that.
If a rider is dominant at a young age, you're suspicious of them. If a rider gets better when they get a bit older, you're suspicious. Stop being ridiculous.

Well, frankly, you can never be too suspicious when it comes to Patrick's wolf cubs... It's just way too obvious and happens way too often to go unnoticed.

 

[Bonimenier]

Well, frankly, you can never be too suspicious when it comes to Patrick's wolf cubs... It's just way too obvious and happens way too often to go unnoticed.

Sure, but that doesn't make what FCance said any less bullcrap.

 

[Ricco']

Senechal was always a very bright prospect for this type of races since a very young age.

But then he Cofidied and he did what riders do when they go to Cofidis.

 

[Publiuszam]

This is so ridiculous. Senechal was an average domestique when they signed him, Asgreen an absolute nobody. Then this guy is going solo for 40km giving everything and still fresh enough to attack again for the win? Team didn't start as strong as expected last month, but now they definitely upped their game again.

This post doesn't help your "cause" at all. I think you know cycling better than this. But yes.... The whole lefevere system is suspicious

 

[Mayomaniac]

Senechal and Asgreen aren't from zero to hero stories.
Shane Archbold, the guy who finished 3rd last in the 2019 Vuelta suddenly finishing on the podium on rather hard hilly stages of Coppi e Bartali at the age of 32 would be closer to that, even if he's only doing it in a smaller race.

 

[fmk_RoI]

This looks like an interesting story. Given his litigious nature (ask Het Laatse) I'm sure it must have been fun to put together:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1378446947317657604

View: https://twitter.com/JeuneGuillou/status/1378446947317657604

 

[The Hegelian]

I don't find Asgreen's win suss - nothing like Gilbert in '17. In fact QS per se were not very impressive compared with other years.

 

[saganftw]

as long as asgreen doesnt start winning mountain stages and bunch sprints i have no issues with his set of talents,he should also be pretty decent bet for liege

 

[BlueRoads]

Okay, conspiracy theory, but do you think it's possible that QS dope their riders without their knowledge, or at least, that the riders do not know what exactly they are getting?

 

[kingjr]

Okay, conspiracy theory, but do you think it's possible that QS dope their riders without their knowledge, or at least, that the riders do not know what exactly they are getting?

I suppose that is how every team would/should do it, if possible.

 

[topcat]

I suppose that is how every team would/should do it, if possible.

So all those riders denying doping are telling the truth. This is good. Keep it coming.

 

[kingjr]

So all those riders denying doping are telling the truth. This is good. Keep it coming.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that's probably how you would want to do it, if possible.

 

[topcat]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that's probably how you would want to do it, if possible.

Not possible and not legal. But it's an interesting thought.

 

[Parker]

Okay, conspiracy theory, but do you think it's possible that QS dope their riders without their knowledge, or at least, that the riders do not know what exactly they are getting?

Doping them with what? Riders know that needles are banned. You can hardly pass off a transfusion as something else.

 

[Bonimenier]

Seems unlikely. I can imagine that most riders are very careful with whatever medicines, food, drinks they take and really want to know what's what before taking it.

 

[Koronin]

Seems unlikely. I can imagine that most riders are very careful with whatever medicines, food, drinks they take and really want to know what's what before taking it.

I've heard of riders keeping their cold and pain medications completely separate from medications for cold and pain the rest of their family use, just to be extra cautious.

 

[BlueRoads]

I just always wonder whether riders know how much their performance will go down when they leave Quickstep. And I'm a bit tired of this "great-leadout" stuff, because that explains just so little. So do they take the money knowing they won't win much anymore? Do they not know what will happen? What they will be lacking? I can't really understand it.

 

[saganftw]

terpstra and viviani are prime examples of guys who made a name for themselves, left for a bigger contract and then mysteriously ehm ehm "couldnt find their previous form" , but then you have guys like cancellara or cavendish who left and became leaders

that being said i fully expect bob jungels to never do anything for like 2 years over at ag2r

 

[Bonimenier]

terpstra and viviani are prime examples of guys who made a name for themselves, left for a bigger contract and then mysteriously ehm ehm "couldnt find their previous form" , but then you have guys like cancellara or cavendish who left and became leaders

that being said i fully expect bob jungels to never do anything for like 2 years over at ag2r

There are numerous good examples, but I don't think Terpstra is the greatest one. The guy really has known a lot of bad luck with hard crashes since he left Quickstep.

 

[ppanther92]

Not possible and not legal. But it's an interesting thought.

But also not like it never happened before in sports.

 

[BlueRoads]

Cavendish . Don't misunderstand me, I'm happy for him, but he was half dead last year. Now he wins against Philipsen.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Cavendish is the most Sus example this year, 3 years in a row he can barely compete in a sprint, now he is winning 2 days in a row with very impressive kick.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

and hes done it again , more victory in one week with quickstep than 4 professional seasons previously

 

[Eclipse]

Now that's magic.