CentralCaliBike said:I guess none of LA's previous teammates had ambitions - probably why they road only for him and faded into obscurity when the they no longer on the team.
I assume you are being sarcastic
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CentralCaliBike said:I guess none of LA's previous teammates had ambitions - probably why they road only for him and faded into obscurity when the they no longer on the team.
Steegmans can win, but he can do so without standing in the way of the team's other ambitions; that is just what we were looking for."
auscyclefan94 said:The Hog has made an interesting statement about Steegmans
Steegmans can win all he likes, but he must **** off when Lance or Levi want to lead/race.
kurtinsc said:Oh well... he didn't sound very upset... or really upset in the slightest... by reading the interview. But perhaps you have more insight into the matter.
Publicus said:Does he have any other option but to win on his own? It's not like Radio Shack is built to back a sprinter's ambition.
auscyclefan94 said:So LA's ambitions is more important than anyone elses.
thehog said:Looks like Ferrari is working with Radioshack as a consultant: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-still-works-with-10-professional-riders.html
thehog said:Looks like Ferrari is working with Radioshack as a consultant: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-still-works-with-10-professional-riders.html
kurtinsc said:It doesn't say that at all... anywhere in the article. It doesn't even mention the team name.
Race Radio said:I assume you are being sarcastic
Mellow Velo said:Well, who do you guys think the 10 riders are?
Lance wouldn't even allow Ferrari to work with ex-Posties.
kurtinsc said:All in all it's a non-story... quotes that can't be taken for any degree of truth because he's not a reliable source.
Mellow Velo said:Yet, you and Jr take the Hog to task, because he isn't directly quoted as saying he's working with the The Shack?
Why worry, if he's not a credible source for his own involvement?
So, I take it, the idea that Ferrari working with LA/JB's team, would only become reliable, were it varified by LA or JB.
Like when Lance announced he was going to work with Don Catlin.
Race Radio said:Interesting that Ferrari says he worked with Lance until his retirement in 2005. Guess this was a lie
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004/oct/02/cycling.cycling
If a rider with an Italian Pro license works with Ferrari he will be banned, no wonder they are keeping it quite.
kurtinsc said:I thought that was already accepted fact. I though Lance had admitted that he worked with Ferrari a long time ago.
auscyclefan94 said:Getting back on topic Just thought i would review how well balanced this team is.
Lance Armstrong (USA) - General Classification for stage races
Fumiyuki Beppu (Jpn) - Domestique for stage races
Sam Bewley (NZl) - Sprinting domestique for Steegmans
Jani Brajkovic (Slo) - Domestique for stage races
Matthew Busche (USA) -
Ben Hermans (Bel) -
Chris Horner (USA) - Domestique for stage races
Daryl Impey (RSA) - Sprinting domestique
Markel Irizar (Spa) -
Andreas Klöden (Ger) - Domestique/ possible leader for stage races
Levi Leipheimer (USA) - Domestique/ possible leader for stage races
Geoffroy Lequatre (Fra) - Domestique for stage races
Fuyu Li (Chn) - Domestique for stge races
Tiago Machado (Por) -
Jason McCartney (USA) - Domestique for stage races
Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) - Domestique for stage races/alright at one day races
Sérgio Paulinho (Por) - Domestique for stage races
Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) - Domestique for stage races
Gregory Rast (Swi) - Domestique for stage races/ alright at one day races
Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) - Domestique for stage races
Ivan Rovny (Rus) - Domestique for stage races
José Luis Rubiera (Spa) - Domestique for stage races
Bjorn Selander (USA) -
Gert Steegmans (Bel) - Main Sprinter
Tomas Vaitkus (Ltu) - Domestique for sprints/stage races + one day racer
Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) -Domestique for stage races/ can lead some races
PLEASE NOTE:I have left a few people blank as I know not much about them and the roles of these riders is based on the results and common knowledge of the rider. If you have any suggestions please do so.
Race Radio said:You might want to read the link
Armstrong admitted he worked with Ferrari. When Ferrari was convicted he publicly cut ties with him....but continued to work with him as did members of the team. Most would call that a lie.
kurtinsc said:Yep... probably is a lie... if you believe Ferrari's statement.
Of course... if you believe his statement then you also think he never told anyone to use an illegal substance... which is pretty hard to swallow as well.
So we get into saying part of it is credible and part isn't... which isn't exactly safe ground to build any kind of argument on.
He's lying about not working with Lance now... but he was telling the truth about working with him until 2005... but he was lying about not providing doping regimines... but he was not lying when he says he's got 10 cyclists under his training now... but he was not lying when he said Vino was a client until 2007... but he is lying when he says he's not helping Vino now...
That's the problem with basing an argument on a non-credible source... and it's also the problem with trying to use the fact the source is not credible as proof he must be lying. It's VERY hard to have it both ways.