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[JPM London]

Show me any clean riders crying out "Test me, test me"
"Thank you - may I have another"

Dan Lloyd said last year at a pre-Tour event in London "if that's what it takes, then I'm happy about it". If not his accurate words, then pretty darn close.

 

[mulletCobra]

This would all be more interesting if we let them dope guilt free with one stipulation. If they choose to dope, they have to ride pennyfarthings. If you choose to take the dope-free route and get caught doping you have to ride a pennyfarthing while dressed in a three piece wool suit, top hat, and monocle.

 

[fatandfast]

I agree with you.

We should fire someone.

Let's start with all the known and suspected dopers that continue their practices, even when it draws negative attention to the sport. Those losers are killing us.

I agree with you. Cycling is run by idiots.

We should also fire all the idiots.

Especially all the idiots that think doping is still a great idea. And any idiot that writes a fanciful report about tests on doping samples without discussing the results of the tests. We should fire any idiot that would hire such an idiot along with any idiot appointed by an idiot to replace them.

We should fire all the idiots that think doping will just go away if we pretend it isn't there.

We tried that right after Festina, and you-know-who doped himself to the gills and embarrassed us again. Idiot.

We should fire them and sue them for treble damages. Maybe someone can do some whistle-blowing and get some federal agencies involved and rid us of these idiots.

Dave.

can you imagine if any other sport was really run this way. Angry fans tweeting their management requests. We want this guy or that guy fired. We want on the fly rule changes.
We want some deep ethical investigation because some fans want that.
The UCI should drop all the oversight of bicycle gymnastics and ensuring the BMX riders are good to go for the Olympics and create a professional business.
1 rule book to be followed in Qatar, Belgium and the US. 1 that says if this is in your system, no matter how it got there you are DQ'd for 2 years. 1 that says here is the calendar there will be no radios at the following races.period.

An organization that says here are 15 premier events, here are the streets to be used, snow or an earthquake may dictate a change but rain and sleet will not so if you don't have a plan for wet cobbles drop out or don't start.

I just sat in a place with 150 screaming Irish rugby fans that would love your plan..tweet to the ref about Wales playing too rough or an undiscovered penalty that a fan saw but the officials didn't. brilliant just awesome. Dear 6 nations organizer I feel that the big guy is dirty so test him and nobody else.
How could they even look at Kloden with a straight face and tell him he wasn't being singled out. He should have made the control guy hold his junk.

This is just the start of the grab bag rule book the UCI is using. DiLuca back racing, Contador winning Murcia and Pellizotti sitting out because they couldn't find any fish but it smelled like fish..must be fish. Sorry about your career will try and get our rules straight before you come back.

Pat McQuaid please move to Libya

 

[MarkvW]

Sponsor Dependency

Watched Wales vs Ireland Saturday..also watched some of the the Man City game..probably an equal number of athletes involved in both matches. Take out that one sport you like better than another, the reason cycling is such a mess and is a financial struggle for most involved is the federation.
The 6 nations tourney would never dream of smearing their sport through the mud. The reason Man City filled every seat and sold millions in TV revenues is because they wouldn't think to devalue the product with a stupid twitter post. 36 tests is dumb,expensive,excessive and ruins the fan base for the sport.
If 8 of 36 test were done on Kloden somebody should lose their job..after all they damaged the sport by 100's of thousands of euros by looking like they are biased against one team or another

NCAA tourney started this week and generated millions of dollars.wonder how many tests they did. They would probably have to do the tests off site because all available space is used to store cash. Cycling is run by idiots, the races and racers are of the highest quality but the organization is f-cked up.
Can't imagine having this as a start to the season of trolls from every news organization on the planet

Advertisers are a skittish bunch and pro cycling is entirely dependent upon them. Gerolsteiner, USPS, and Phonak all come to mind right away as companies that got out of cycling in part to limit their association with doping.

The UCI must cater to their sponsor pool. Their pool of potential sponsors is much smaller than the pool available to big time sports--and they can't charge admission. IIRC TV revenue from Germany was sliced after the Ullrich affair.

The doping policies are ultimately driven by the sponsors. People on this forum attribute way too much power and control to McQuaid. He lacks the power to dictate any change.

Pro cycling is human nature. If the riders were clean, they'd attract more and better sponsors. That means more money for everyone. But people don't think like that. They want to grab success NOW for themselves by doping, even if it means physical harm.

Pro cycling has always been a filthy dope-fest. All the way from Coppi through Anquetil, to Merckx and Ullrich, to the present day. It is what it is! Enjoy the hypocrisy, the criminal prosecutions, and the carnage! Support it! Buy Trek! Buy Specialized! Support the sponsors that make cycling what it is today!

 

[D-Queued]

can you imagine if any other sport was really run this way. Angry fans tweeting (posting) their management requests. We want this guy or that guy fired. We want on the fly rule changes.
...

Hello?

...the reason cycling is such a mess and is a financial struggle for most involved is the federation.

...

...somebody should lose their job..

... Cycling is run by idiots
...

Look, I am trying to agree with you here.

Dave.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Look, I am trying to agree with you here.

Dave.

That is really aiming at a moving target.

 

[skippy]

Doping Controls run by amateurs ?

Given that the racers livelihood is at risk , then Medical Professionals only should be used !

Over a period this forum has attacked certain personalities and i am sure that some of the UCI people have used what is said here as a basis for their over zealous behaviour . Could be some of the testing on the Paris -Nice was to show that they are trying to do the job that you guys are demanding of them ?

 

[frenchfry]

Doping Controls run by amateurs ?

Given that the racers livelihood is at risk , then Medical Professionals only should be used !

Over a period this forum has attacked certain personalities and i am sure that some of the UCI people have used what is said here as a basis for their over zealous behaviour . Could be some of the testing on the Paris -Nice was to show that they are trying to do the job that you guys are demanding of them ?

I for one am impressed by your pertinent analysis of this situation. I herewith nominate you for senior member based solely on the quality of your posts.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Maybe it's a bit more of the UCI vs. AFLD war that we thought had reached a ceasefire. AFLD shut out last year, allowed back in this year, immediately go after the sacred cows that many suspected were the reason AFLD were shut out in the first place.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Maybe it's a bit more of the UCI vs. AFLD war that we thought had reached a ceasefire. AFLD shut out last year, allowed back in this year, immediately go after the sacred cows that many suspected were the reason AFLD were shut out in the first place.

I think this analysis holds more water than the idea that the UCI eavesdrops on the clinic for pointers...

 

[sniper]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/7...py-with-AFLD-collaboration-on-Paris-Nice.aspx

The team has been on the AFLD’s radar for some time, particularly after infusion kits were reportedly found in the Astana team’s vacated hotel rooms during the 2009 Tour de France. The majority of that team moved over to Team RadioShack, including Klöden, Brajkovic, Lance Armstrong and general manager Johan Bruyneel.

 

[Anonymous]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/7...py-with-AFLD-collaboration-on-Paris-Nice.aspx

The team has been on the AFLD’s radar for some time, particularly after infusion kits were reportedly found in the Astana team’s vacated hotel rooms during the 2009 Tour de France. The majority of that team moved over to Team RadioShack, including Klöden, Brajkovic, Lance Armstrong and general manager Johan Bruyneel.

hmm, some bus throwing going on.

McQuaid said prior to the race that a new level of cooperation had been reached. “The misunderstandings which had troubled relations between the UCI and AFLD are now in the past,”

Wonder if the "misunderstanding" began with L and ended with Armstrong.

 

[Polish]

hmm, some bus throwing going on.

Wonder if the "misunderstanding" began with L and ended with Armstrong.

I don't think so dim.

The increased cooperation between the UCI and the AFLD has more to do with Mr Bordy leaving the scene. His "early retirement" was overdue.

 

[Angliru]

frustrating to see so much tax-payer money go into ineffective drugtesting.

I'm sure if this were Movistar or Euskatel you'd be singing a different song.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I don't think so dim.

The increased cooperation between the UCI and the AFLD has more to do with Mr Bordy leaving the scene. His "early retirement" was overdue.

How did I figure that you'd feel that way? I must be psychic...

 

[Polish]

How did I figure that you'd feel that way? I must be psychic...

Well, it was pretty obvious that Bordry was at the root of the cooperation problem.

ASO shuffling him out of the picture at the TdF and other ASO events (and his early retirement) were 2 clues.

And some of us here in the Clinic predicted often that Bordy would have to go before cooperation would take place.

Although if you want to believe you are a psychic, thats ok too.
But you could make more money as a butcher,
so don't waste your time on me.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Well, it was pretty obvious that Bordry was at the root of the cooperation problem.

ASO shuffling him out of the picture at the TdF and other ASO events (and his early retirement) were 2 clues.

And some of us here in the Clinic predicted often that Bordy would have to go before cooperation would take place.

Although if you want to believe you are a psychic, thats ok too.
But you could make more money as a butcher,
so don't waste your time on me.

If you're ever in France, I've got some lovely steaks for you. No questions asked...

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

Although if you want to believe you are a psychic, thats ok too.
But you could make more money as a butcher,
so don't waste your time on me.

There you go again, reaching into the pocket of your mystery robe.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

How did I figure that you'd feel that way? I must be psychic...

I got this advice from a poster on another thread......

Doctor Mas;

Please! For the love of all things holy! You have to stop allowing yourself to get baited!

I appreciate your opinion, and your big brain full of interesting tid-bits, but this has got to end.

I'd rather you pick up a hammer and start going at your own head (I'd recommend a ballpeen).

There is no convincing the ***. That's why they're called ***. They are ***.

I realize the season's ramping up, and the usual Clinic suspects aren't being as prolific as they tend to be, but please - no more trying to pick them (the trolls) apart.

Post a relevant link, hope that they're literate (might be a tall order), and then shut up. If they get after you again, post another link that makes your point.

Catering to these stumps only gives them a soap-box to effect weaker minds.

This is war, baby. War!

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

I got this advice from a poster on another thread......

Touche.

Although, in my defence, I kept it down to one line to a known troublemaker.

Hope you took no offence, doc. I do anticipate (and appreciate) your input and posts. I also appreciate your frustration. It's like arguing whether the sky is blue.

Sometimes there is no winning...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Touche.

Although, in my defence, I kept it down to one line to a known troublemaker.

Hope you took no offence, doc. I do anticipate (and appreciate) your input and posts. I also appreciate your frustration. It's like arguing whether the sky is blue.

Sometimes there is no winning...

Nah - its the internet, no point taking offence (and more importantly you are correct, though it can be fun watching people trying to get the square peg in to the round hole)- but I just couldn't resist this after you lead me out so perfectly.

 

[Square-pedaller]

Ah yes, the internet ...

... sucks you in

 

[thehog]

Rumour has Kloden clashed with French rider Offredo over the tests. According to insiders Kloden was still applying the omertà to the French riders. Thankfully this time around some of the riders turned on Andreas.

Beyond belief the UCI allows a loser like Kloden in the peloton.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Rumour has Kloden clashed with French rider Offredo over the tests. According to insiders Kloden was still applying the omertà to the French riders. Thankfully this time around some of the riders turned on Andreas.

Beyond belief the UCI allows a loser like Kloden in the peloton.

Got anymore info?

 

[thehog]

Got anymore info?

http://www.sudouest.fr/2011/03/11/kloden-carbure-encore-338983-8.php