Reactions from the peloton

[ultimobici]

So you want all the riders that saw it to testify and have his governing body to come up with a "Reasoned Decision"?

IIRC it was just the doper Ventoso who spoke up and no one else backed him up. None of the riders who were in the same group, but more interestingly none of the riders eliminated that day. I wonder why?

 

[Cycle Chic]

Other Athletes

Athletes quotes:-

"I want to go back in time to visit my 17yo self reading "It's Not About the Bike", pull the book out of my hands and take a dump on it" —

800m Olympian Nick Symmonds, (@NickSymmonds)

American professional runner Lauren Fleshman, who ran the 5,000m at the 2012 Olympics, posted a letter to Lance Armstrong on her website, asklaurenfleshman.com. Some excerpts:

“Over the years, we have all been taught that taking a public position on you is a lose-lose situation. .. But things are going to change, Lance.

"We will not trade the integrity of our sport for the media coverage that you may bring us. If our governing bodies are going to go to bat for you, they will do so knowing that they will have a mutiny on their hands.

"I do not wish for you to go to hell, or live a miserable life…I simply want you, along with all the other cheaters, to find a new profession so that mine continues to mean something."

 

[meat puppet]

It’s virtually impossible for riders to dope without getting caught

Quoted for truth.

In other news:

 

[pastronef]

Benjamin Noval's view

http://rsocial.marca.orbyt.es/epape...32B77CE4CBBC8F7155F4086709E20D1A832224BD21CF4

 

[Race Radio]

Manzano
http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2013/01/18/mas_ciclismo/1358535374_869757.html

 

[Oldman]

Not this garbage again? Try as you might there was no evidence at all, not a dickey bird!

Saw it at Tour of Cal. No one cared because he was so far out of it. It's always been a sprinter tradition however sleazy. I almost don't mind it they don't use it to beat the time cut or contest a finish but it's cheating.

 

[neineinei]

Benjamin Noval's view

http://rsocial.marca.orbyt.es/epape...32B77CE4CBBC8F7155F4086709E20D1A832224BD21CF4

Rider-12 forgot to tell about the blood transfusion on the bus.

 

[ElChingon]

IIRC it was just the doper Ventoso who spoke up and no one else backed him up. None of the riders who were in the same group, but more interestingly none of the riders eliminated that day. I wonder why?

So, you don't believe the doper Ventoso, so I can assume you don't believe the dopers Landis, Hamilton, Zabrinski, Hincapie, Vaughters, Leipheimer, Barry, etc. then. You have drawn the line the sand where you stand, thanks for that and hopefully the rest now know as well.

 

[ElChingon]

Saw it at Tour of Cal. No one cared because he was so far out of it. It's always been a sprinter tradition however sleazy. I almost don't mind it they don't use it to beat the time cut or contest a finish but it's cheating.

Thank You.

Its in the rule book just like the doping rule.

 

[coinneach]

contador speaks!

"I hope Armstrong puts the lid on the past"

http://www.marca.com/2013/01/20/en/more_sports/1358703984.html

No surprises here

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

"I hope Armstrong puts the lid on the past"

http://www.marca.com/2013/01/20/en/more_sports/1358703984.html

No surprises here

what was he supposed to say?

 

[Benotti69]

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...-was-getting-minimum-wage-on-a-factory-floor/

 

[pmcg76]

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...-was-getting-minimum-wage-on-a-factory-floor/

Whilst I am inclined to believe Power didn't dope. I hope you are aware of the fact that Power rode for a team that had a strong association with doping in the US, Navigators. Phil Zajicek, Kirk O'Bee, Nathan O'Neill, Hilton Clarke and some of those Eastern European's, all Navigators alumni and team-mates of Power.

So when Power says he lost out to dopers, there is also a very good chance he spent a lot of time working for dopers also. Perhaps on the US teams, it was more individual and hidden from team-mates so maybe Power knew little about it.

The journalist missed a trick by not asking him about his own team-mates who cheated him.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

in usa it was definitely individually. those teams didn't have a dime to spare.

 

[Big Doopie]

schlecklet fraudlet

"He made his comeback and he was beaten in the first year by Alberto and me," said Schleck, who is in Australia to ride the Tour Down Under, first event of the 2013 WorldTour.

"So, in my eyes, I was clean. I know I was always a clean rider and I keen on riding clean. So why should he be behind me?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/19/andy-schleck-says-lance-armstrong-clean-after-2009/1847215/?morestories=obinsite

seems a little too aware what a doped armstrong return would mean about his own perfs.

god, i hate the schlecks.

 

[trompe le monde]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/19/andy-schleck-says-lance-armstrong-clean-after-2009/1847215/?morestories=obinsite

seems a little too aware what a doped armstrong return would mean about his own perfs.

god, i hate the schlecks.

What an odd quote by Andy Schleck.

You would think that an athlete who is clean would not resort to having to justify it by some form of bizarre deduction that relies upon believing that Armstrong, completely against the grain of how he has always performed, was clean in his comeback.

I used to like Andy, but his indifference to large swaths of the racing calendar a la Armstrong has made me dislike the guy. Plus, quotes like the one you cited from the usa today story don't help either.

 

[nvpacchi]

apologies if someone posted and I missed it,

but has Chris Horner pulled any shiny golden nuggets from his arrse in the past week??

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Glenn Magnusson is still the worst.

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.velowire.com/article/667/en/open-letter-jeremy-roy---lovelo-.html

Jeremy Roy

 

[DirtyWorks]

http://www.velowire.com/article/667/en/open-letter-jeremy-roy---lovelo-.html

Jeremy Roy

It seems like an honest-enough account. From way out here in the cheap seats, it seems like he doesn't go looking for ways to cheat. We've heard that before from other riders from "darker times."

He doesn't seem to be aware that samples are already stored.

 

[ElChingon]

http://www.velowire.com/article/667/en/open-letter-jeremy-roy---lovelo-.html

Jeremy Roy

A rider with a sensible reply on the matter, there is hope.

 

[Franklin]

Since June 2011 (unfortunately not retroactive), people who have been proven to have violated the anti doping code can no longer have a job as manager, directeur sportif, trainer, doctor or paramedical assistant, mechanic, driver, riders agent. This rule allows to progressively clean up the world of cycling. However, I do encourage the teams to apply this rule without any time limitations.

The only way forward.

 

[Basecase]

Roy decided to go to college and get an engineering degree around same time he turned pro with FDJ.

He comes across as an above intelligence pro.

He has Madiot as a manager

Does the fact he has a degree to fall back on help him to express himself as he not totally beholden to being a yes-man in the peloton?

 

[Franklin]

Does the fact he has a degree to fall back on help him to express himself as he not totally beholden to being a yes-man in the peloton?

I'm hesistant on that one. Ethics and education are imho not significantly correlated.

Lance seems like a pretty smart guy who fully knows what to do. And calling him a yes man is of course nonsense.

I'd say following your dream and or glamour is just as enticing for everyone.

 

[roundabout]

I think Basecase means that he has a second career to fall back on, should cycling not work out.