Really, McQuaid? Really.

[Colm.Murphy]

McQuaid is simply a buffoon.

His line about taking money from the riders is such a farce. He has emphatically state elsewhere that they have NEVER had another donation from a rider. Never. So what is he referring to?

Here is a wonder: Of the bank guarantee that the teams put in escrow with the UCI, I have been told they are loaded into an interest bearing account and that the UCI skims that money.

He lies about the budget.
He lies about the investigation and cloaks the need for it with a "vendetta" spin.

How he is a member of the IOC is a sphinx-like riddle. Especially after being banned for racing in SA.

Paddy, the ditch you're in is quite deep. Senseless quotes won't help you get out of that ditch.

 

[frenchfry]

Once again McQuaid needs to get his fact straight before he lies.

For the first time the UCI provided their financials to the public. They are hidden on their website.

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI7/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2Mjc&LangId=1


-The World Championships generates 9.1 million francs. It's the biggest source of income for the UCI.
-The second largest source of income comes from affiliations and race organisers.
-The next biggest source of money comes from the Olympic Games. The 2008 games brought in 3.5 million Swiss Francs.
-The UCI nets about 1.4 million from the Pro Tour

There is zero mention of "Donations" from riders or teams. Perhaps these donations go to McQuaid's private account?

All this piling on McQuaid is more than warranted, but lets not forget that he inherited the corrupt system from Verdruggen. He is doing an excellent of carrying on business as usual.

 

[Berzin]

I have no doubt that there are many Armstronglike donations to the UCI right? By many teams and individuals. And from what I have heard the riders, DSs, team owners love their PEDs right. Why would Armstrong be extraordinary in his "contributions?

You have no doubt, and no proof-the necessary qualifications needed to be a high priest in the Lance Armstrong Cult.

I personally believe Lance has not received special treatment.

Why does this not surprise me that you would think this...

 

[flicker]

You have no doubt, and no proof-the necessary qualifications needed to be a high priest in the Lance Armstrong Cult.



Why does this not surprise me that you would think this...

Let's talk Tom Boonen, Cunego,F.Schleck,Jens,Betini all exactly the same as Sir Armstrong.

 

[flicker]

Oh also my fellow American, big George Hincapie and the Ruskie rocket Ekimov.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

All this piling on McQuaid is more than warranted, but lets not forget that he inherited the corrupt system from Verdruggen. He is doing an excellent of carrying on business as usual.

Amen.

And Hein is the one sending the late-night nasty-grams to Landis, taunting him and making a fool of himself.

And Paddy cannot purse his lips and remain calm when a journalist prompts him for a quote.

Thus, the state of professional cycling.

Gross mismanagement and flagrant misrepresentation of nearly every fact.

 

[dolophonic]

Yes this was a strange article. sort of read like another prong from the Lance pr team trying to change the flow of perception. Fail.

 

[Oldman]

Yes this was a strange article. sort of read like another prong from the Lance pr team trying to change the flow of perception. Fail.

...all of that and kind of a pathetic, political call for relevancy by Pat. He wants to tell his "truth" and can't understand why no one is listening. It's because the coals are lit below you, Mr. UCI.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Agree completely that we can't forget about Hein, who is just as much of a problem.

. . . not to mention completely contradicting reality! And all for the express purpose of causing more people to believe what flicker erroneously believes and continue to repeat it.

+1

The UCI needs a total overhaul, as Barrus says.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

McQuaid is simply a buffoon.

His line about taking money from the riders is such a farce. He has emphatically state elsewhere that they have NEVER had another donation from a rider. Never. So what is he referring to?

Here is a wonder: Of the bank guarantee that the teams put in escrow with the UCI, I have been told they are loaded into an interest bearing account and that the UCI skims that money.

He lies about the budget.
He lies about the investigation and cloaks the need for it with a "vendetta" spin.

How he is a member of the IOC is a sphinx-like riddle. Especially after being banned for racing in SA.

Paddy, the ditch you're in is quite deep. Senseless quotes won't help you get out of that ditch.

The problem is that no one holds him, or calls him to account. He is elected by his friends and cronies who are all equally corrupt, the cycling media has fewer teeth than a 89 year old granny, and the mainstream media is too ill informed to ask him tough questions.

It is amazing that anyone as incompetent and embarrassing as him can hold onto his job for this long.

 

[flicker]

Overhaul ain't gonna happen as money talks.....

 

[El Imbatido]

Patty McCorrupt should have heeded advice that I am always being given: (if he didn't want to look like a total douche)

"If you're in a hole stop digging!!!"

I think we can almost see China down this hole..........

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Agree completely that we can't forget about Hein, who is just as much of a problem.



+1

The UCI needs a total overhaul, as Barrus says.

Problem is that most of the people who hold power in the UCI and could instigate reform are cronies of Hein and Pat.

As Orwell said 'Nothing short of dynamite will convince some people which century they are living in.'

 

[Beech Mtn]

Yes this was a strange article. sort of read like another prong from the Lance pr team trying to change the flow of perception. Fail.

+1. It totally read like something from the LA PR team, complete with revisions to the old talking point:

The fact is there was no positive control, and the fact is that Lance Armstrong has never been controlled positive,” McQuaid stated.

Sounds like we are giving up the ghost on "never tested positive," since there's evidence of at least 7 positive tests (1 for corticosteroid at '99 TdF and 6 for EPO at the same race, not counting Floyd's allegations about the positive coverup from TdSuisse.)

So, yes we have positive tests, but he's never "controlled" positive. Placing the ball firmly back in UCI camp, since they are the decision-makers and would determine a "positive control."

Also McQuaid's comments attempt to portray this whole thing as Floyd's personal vendetta against Lance. While I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd had a personal vendetta against LA, there must be something here, or the investigation wouldn't have gotten to the grand jury phase, would it?

Witch Hunt = Personal Vendetta.
The big question for me is this: why is the head of the UCI sounding like a PR goon for Armstrong, rather than an independent official in charge of a governing body?

 

[Cobblestoned]

Agree completely that we can't forget about Hein, who is just as much of a problem.



+1

The UCI needs a total overhaul, as Barrus says.

Not only the UCI, but all associations, federations and the nearly the whole world need a total overhaul.
Look at these IOC guys, or FINA, or Spabanania or whatever.
They are all corrupt and cover their sports and athletes to make money and get "clean" glory and heros.

You really think the olympic samples will be retested for CERA or that there are any serious doping tests in other sports than cycling ?

Last actual example: A Spaniard with 3 missed tests got european swimming champion last week. They just don´t cared and he appeared back with huge muscles.

 

[Berzin]

It is amazing that anyone as incompetent and embarrassing as him can hold onto his job for this long.

The big question for me is this: why is the head of the UCI sounding like a PR goon for Armstrong, rather than an independent official in charge of a governing body?

Fat Pat McQuaid exhibits the sort of intellectual inbreeding that is a prerequisite for a mid-to-upper level administrative/managerial position in any large corporation or bloated bureaucratic entity such as the UCI.

Remember, all people like him do is schmooze with fellow cronies and push paper from one desk to another. The UCI really don't do anything of substance. What was the last thing they did besides set the stupid weight rule for bikes and eliminate the Cinelli Spinaci handlebar extensions?

Any threat to their collective livelihood will be met with the predictable response.

His statements are outlandish, but frightfully par for the course given who he represents and what is at stake.

 

[powerste]

The big question for me is this: why is the head of the UCI sounding like a PR goon for Armstrong, rather than an independent official in charge of a governing body?

Because Pat believes being a PR goon is the same as being independently in charge of a governing body. Hein taught Pat oh-so-well before appointing him as Hein's successor president.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I don't see any reason why the UCI (and national federations) wouldn't be open to "donations" from all sorts of teams and riders. Didn't Manzano suggest as much ?

 

[powerste]

. . . all for the express purpose of causing more people to believe what flicker erroneously believes and continue to repeat it.

To wit:

This is what I do not understand about the furor of Armstrongs "donation" to the UCI. If cycling is like say US politics you donate to say a congressman the congressman is obligated to return the favor in some way.
I have no doubt that there are many Armstronglike donations to the UCI right? By many teams and individuals. And from what I have heard the riders, DSs, team owners love their PEDs right. Why would Armstrong be extraordinary in his "contributions?
I personally believe Lance has not received special treatment.

Let's talk Tom Boonen, Cunego,F.Schleck,Jens,Betini all exactly the same as Sir Armstrong.

Oh also my fellow American, big George Hincapie and the Ruskie rocket Ekimov.

Flicker, perhaps "from what you have heard," you can provide evidence of "Armostronglike donations" directly to the UCI from the other riders you mention above?

McQuaid and LA have admitted the donation(s) from LA, and each one has changed his story every time he's opened his mouth about it.

OTOH, your posts are the first any of us have heard about donations from the other 7 riders you mention by name. Now bring the facts, please.

 

[Gnossos7]

McQuack

This is the part I like:

"If it’s proven these guys were beating the system, they were beating the system put in place by the scientific authorities, by WADA and everyone else.”

The first hint of weakness from the UCI camp; a tacit admission that riders WERE doping and not getting caught...

 

[powerste]

This is the part I like:

"If it’s proven these guys were beating the system, they were beating the system put in place by the scientific authorities, by WADA and everyone else.”

The first hint of weakness from the UCI camp; a tacit admission that riders WERE doping and not getting caught...

I love how they they might have been beating the system over which all those other bodies are responsible. Damn slackers at WADA!

Yes, Pat, we believe any lapses are some other authority's fault.

 

[hrotha]

It's amazing that the UCI doesn't seem to have a PR department. Or maybe they have one, but it's made up entirely of Pat's nephews and the like?

 

[Benotti69]

Not only the UCI, but all associations, federations and the nearly the whole world need a total overhaul.
Look at these IOC guys, or FINA, or Spabanania or whatever.
They are all corrupt and cover their sports and athletes to make money and get "clean" glory and heros.

You really think the olympic samples will be retested for CERA or that there are any serious doping tests in other sports than cycling ?

Last actual example: A Spaniard with 3 missed tests got european swimming champion last week. They just don´t cared and he appeared back with huge muscles.

Also these federations need to be taken out of hiding in Switzerland. Only reason to be based there is corruption and immunity from laws.

 

[Benotti69]

OTOH, your posts are the first any of us have heard about donations from the other 7 riders you mention by name. Now bring the facts, please.

Flickr is not too good on facts

 

[Love the Scenery]

Agree that the problem is not exclusive to UCI. Has anybody been following Sepp Blatter's hopeless and baffling "management" of FIFA? And they make billions of euros...

McQuaid's policy towards doping and corruption is quite simple: don't ask, don't tell. No wonder Anne Gripper quit ...