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McQuaid is right it is a personal vendetta. As I have always said Floyd/Walsh/LeMonds issues are not about doping they are personal issues against certain individuals. F W L need to take large looks inside of themselves dig deep in their pockets full o' courage and get it straight. You dope once you are a doper for life. Doesn't make a difference if it is benzedrine some unknown powder at the Olympic trials or nationals or the finest blood spiked with 100 percent crit EPO. Doping all the same and across the board.
 
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hrotha said:
Well, then the puppeteers must have one hell of a convoluted plan, because every time McQuaid speaks, he damages his own and UCI's credibility.
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That is what you think but apples to oranges you are not an attorney, business owner or CEO. Think how BP canned that talking head in the gulf they had. Not the first time.
 
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"McQuaid suggests US Postal investigation sparked by personal vendetta"... vendetta spin... my heads spinnin! I really believe the investigation/trial is gonna get to the bottom of this. Something has to break with all the accusations by Floyd... like with certain USPS riders present during transfusions, dealings with the UCI, and so on. Some of these riders are going to have to testify. If there's something to hide I don't think it'll stay hidden... and better not.
 
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Remember, all people like him do is schmooze with fellow cronies and push paper from one desk to another. The UCI really don't do anything of substance. What was the last thing they did besides set the stupid weight rule for bikes and eliminate the Cinelli Spinaci handlebar extensions?
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Ahh man, you just bought back memories with the mention of the Cinelli Spinaci. Time to go old school and put them back on my bike.
 
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That is what you think but apples to oranges you are not an attorney, business owner or CEO. Think how BP canned that talking head in the gulf they had. Not the first time.
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You must recognize that McQuaid's inconsistent statements are doing real damage to the reputation and integrity of UCI? His position as head of UCI is probably safe, given how that organization works, but UCI's power has already been weakened and they're under closer scrutiny by WADA - and indeed the press. He is not helping his org by continuing to defend his old buddy LA. Staying neutral would be advisable.

On the other hand, reactions from both Verbruggen and McQuaid are almost exactly what Landis & co. would have hoped for - so in that sense I applaud their comic comments and hope to see more interviews forthcoming...
 
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Interesting to note and no one has picked up on it yet. But McQuaid's statement was pre-prepared and offered at the student games. He was not asked questions and refused to speak in any detail he just read the statement without being prompted. Sounds to me they were drip feeding out another "witch hunt / vendetta / never tested positive" media release. The "we've not been contacted" statement to suggest its not a thorough investigation and one of a witch hunt, vendetta, never tested positive kind.
 
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I have no doubt that there are many Armstronglike donations to the UCI right? By many teams and individuals. And from what I have heard the riders, DSs, team owners love their PEDs right. Why would Armstrong be extraordinary in his "contributions?
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see the comment above about there being no evidence in the UCI financials that any rider/team other than Armstrong has made a donation of that type
 
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Unfortunately at the risk of stating the obvious this is yet another reminder of the corrupt idiocy that is the UCI. More depressing: it is unlikely that Novitzky will have any jurisdiction to get anywhere near the UCI with his FDA investigation, which is why I think Pat feels safe in promulgating more BS.

Cycling really does not have much hope of cleaning itself up without a serious restructuring of the UCI that sees them stripped of anti-doping responsibilities at minimum. As this does not appear to be on the horizon, the sport will remain completely F'ed for the forseeable future. Just now devoid of a certain American sociopath.
 
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McQuaid is right it is a personal vendetta. As I have always said Floyd/Walsh/LeMonds issues are not about doping they are personal issues against certain individuals. F W L need to take large looks inside of themselves dig deep in their pockets full o' courage and get it straight. You dope once you are a doper for life. Doesn't make a difference if it is benzedrine some unknown powder at the Olympic trials or nationals or the finest blood spiked with 100 percent crit EPO. Doping all the same and across the board.
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BS again, no evidence of personal vendetta except your deluded ideas that they are jealous.

McQuaid is such a hypocrite who went to race in SA under an assumed name and got banned from the Olympics. the guy has no morals. As for a dufus, he is up there with best of them. He constantly contradicts himself and the idiot is probably not even aware of it, but that he is now not taking questions from the media shows how many holes are in his statements.

Flickr you are close to sounding like McQauck with all your ridiculous comments and have slipped many times from LA not a doper to everyone dopes.....

as for personal vendetta's, Landis, yep, big time, ask for a job from former mega rich team leader who introduced him to doping practices and rejected, why not?

Walsh and LeMond? vendettas you wish.
 
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Takes quite a bit of chutzpah to pull of Pat's level of doublethink - remember that Armstrong is clean and the allegations are just some crazy vendetta; and at the same time the biopassport has fixed cycling so they can't all dope without detection like they did in 2002 and 2003.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
"McQuaid suggests US Postal investigation sparked by personal vendetta"... vendetta spin... my heads spinnin!
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your head's spinning, i can't get mine around what the hell mcquaid's done here. He not only hurts the uci but also his own reputation badly to such a degree even he himself has to realise that when reading back the quotes he's given??

also i don't understand why he works so hard to defend lance? Sure, the donations from eight years ago, but still ... you'd think that didn't come with a post-it note saying "say stupid things that doesn't really help me for the next eight years" ???

is there even more to the cancer tour of ireland business than has been speculated here with regards to his brother being the race director?

re: lance and cancer riding, I know when LA raced a 'cancer crit' in norway just after TdF09 he did so in return for £200k, when asked what he'd do with the money he replied (paraphrasing) "i might give them to livestrong". Can't believe no noise has been made of that.
 
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re: lance and cancer riding, I know when LA raced a 'cancer crit' in norway just after TdF09 he did so in return for £200k, when asked what he'd do with the money he replied (paraphrasing) "i might give them to livestrong". Can't believe no noise has been made of that.
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I was not aware of this. Do you have more detail? The quote I mean.
 
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