Renewi Tour 2023 (August 23-27)

[Samamba]

Ok looks like the GC just stayed the same... Apart from Tarling gone

 

[Tim Cahill]

Surely not

 

[Netserk]

Looks like De Buyst makes the difference between a gap and no gap. He should have sat up.

 

[Netserk]

GC:

Wellens
Lampaert +17"
Stuyven +19" (?)
Vermeersch +19"
Wright +25"
Hirschi +28"
Zingle +35"

I guess Asgreen is at +21"?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It's not a categorised uphill finish.

That only means that the 3 km rule applies. The 3 second rule only applies if the organisers have determined in advance that it will, and only applies to the biggest group at the finish.

 

[roundabout]

That only means that the 3 km rule applies. The 3 second rule only applies if the organisers have determined in advance that it will, and only applies to the biggest group at the finish.

Yep.

Article 15 on page 75 here

https://indd.adobe.com/view/publication/1bcf3a76-bc62-40ae-8830-d1656a7c09cf/1/publication-web-resources/pdf/G2023_1339_Programmaboek_A4.pdf

Says that expected bunch sprint protocol does not apply to stage 3

 

[Samamba]

So basically to top it off, these organizers can't even post the correct results. Great.

 

[Samamba]

Different GC now?

Vermeersch in 3rd, Stuyven 4th. Teunissen and Zingle 8th and 9th.

 

[yaco]

Well De Lie emptying himself was useless

It was silly tactics by the DS - De Lie was strong enough to stay with the final group if he didn't pace so much and could have won the stage.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

So are they still discussing whether or not there were gaps? This is an impressively long wait for the full results...

 

[Samamba]

So are they still discussing whether or not there were gaps? This is an impressively long wait for the full results...

It was the same on Wednesday, it's just horrible organization.

 

[Landeirovic]

Results confirmed! Wellens have 24sec gap against lampaert!

 

[nightowl]

Nice of them to get the only interesting stages out the way before the Vuelta starts, at least

 

[Rob5091]

Lots of UCI points for third on GC so Lotto D want to keep thier man there on the podium.

 

[search]

The group would not have worked anyway without de Lie taking his turns as well. In my opinion, it was the right thing to do - he lost it due to his lack of experience, not tactics.

edit: the Lotto riders were informed about the death of their team mate before the start, by the way. That may have played a part as well, of course.

 

[Netserk]

They got Vermeersch on the podium. Their tactics were spot on, it was the best they could get.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

They got Vermeersch on the podium. Their tactics were spot on, it was the best they could get.

De Lie could have won the stage. Vermeersch took a whopping 6 seconds on Stuyven, the man he needed to overtake to get on the podium, and that's with Stuyven getting gapped by five riders who were also in the peloton in the sprint up the Vesten, and could very much still fall off the podium with all the bonus seconds still on offer.

 

[Netserk]

Plans are to be judged from the perspective of those who make them. You can't act on the road based on information available after the finish-line.

And the GC was the more important target in yesterday's stage.

 

[RedheadDane]

I certainly hope none of the riders will be feeling any... peer pressure.

I'll show myself out.

 

[Samamba]

Plans are to be judged from the perspective of those who make them. You can't act on the road based on information available after the finish-line.

And the GC was the more important target in yesterday's stage.

You keep talking like both were mutually exclusive, they weren't. It wasn't necessary to sacrifice De Lie. Both were way to eager in taking pull yesterday anyways. I don't blame them given what happened yesterday, but they definitely could've played it smarter.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Plans are to be judged from the perspective of those who make them. You can't act on the road based on information available after the finish-line.

And the GC was the more important target in yesterday's stage.

De Lie was doing the lion's share of the work in a group full of riders right up there in the GC fight, including 2 UAE guys when Wellens was the virtual race leader. It was questionable without the benefit of hindsight as well.

 

[Rob5091]

Dillier not looking too good. Hope he's ok.

 

[Samamba]

for GC riders:
3" for Teunissen
2" for Vermeersch & Zingle
1" for Lampaert & SK Andersen

 

[Samamba]

Huge crash

 

[Rob5091]

Looked like a Movistar rider went down first.