Renewi Tour 2023 (August 23-27)

[Devil's Elbow]

Well, we'll find out about any GC riders caught out on the results sheet... in about 4 hours.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

This is a very narrow finale for a sprint at this level...

 

[Devil's Elbow]

That being said. Philipsen makes sprints incredibly boring.

Not today!

 

[Samamba]

Ok, De Lie needs to go back to working on his sprint, cause he looks incredibly slow. Slower than before his crash. Not being faster than Kanter for example is odd.

 

[Samamba]

Imagine these organizers who need to find who was in which crash now lmao.

Wright is out it seems...

 

[Samamba]

Not today!

Another DSM sprinter that leaves lmao. Still not announced tho right?

 

[KZD]

Big win for Welsford after a disappointing Tour.

Wright and Schelling don't look good after the crash.

 

[Rob5091]

Messy ol' sprint but Welsford got it - chapeau! DSM did have the numbers up there at the finish. De Lie went too early but 5th (I think).

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Looks like a very serious crash, they‘ve even turned the camera away from the ambulance.

 

[Valv.Piti]

De Lie looks slow asf. Dont mind it really if that means he might be focusing a bit more on his endurance and climbing for the big classics instead of sitting and farming Ronde van local cathedral

 

[Samamba]

De Lie looks slow asf. Dont mind it really if that means he might be focusing a bit more on his endurance and climbing for the big classics instead of sitting and farming Ronde van local cathedral

I looked at his power on Wednesday and it was 100+ watts below his numbers before his crash. Think he didn't really train on his sprint the last few months or something cause indeed, he looks incredibly slow.

 

[yaco]

It was a matter of time before Welsford won a WT race - He gots the raw power, although he still needs to learn more racecraft.

 

[Samamba]

Think some riders will get saved by that 2nd crash. Doubt the organizers will be able to see who was still behind the peloton and who wasn't.

Sucks for Wright tho. He went down hard.

 

[StryderHells]

It was a matter of time before Welsford won a WT race - He gots the raw power, although he still needs to learn more racecraft.

I think finishing his first GT even if he wasn‘t competitive will do him the world of good, 4 wins so far in his second full time season on the road is pretty good.

 

[StryderHells]

Luarence Pithie with another top 10, he’s quietly having a good neo-pro season.

 

[Rob5091]

I looked at his power on Wednesday and it was 100+ watts below his numbers before his crash. Think he didn't really train on his sprint the last few months or something cause indeed, he looks incredibly slow.

He does look laboured in the sprints. At least for stage 4 he had a lead out man but he seemed to drop off a little too early but since Ewan's off in the wilderness De Lie has had to take over and apart from his crash, he's been racing since January so it's not surprising the 21 year old is suffering. In September he's off to Canada, but I don't expect he'll do well there.

 

[Samamba]

He does look laboured in the sprints. At least for stage 4 he had a lead out man but he seemed to drop off a little too early but since Ewan's off in the wilderness De Lie has had to take over and apart from his crash, he's been racing since January so it's not surprising the 21 year old is suffering. In September he's off to Canada, but I don't expect he'll do well there.

"Apart from his crash, he's been racing since January"

So basically, he hasn't been racing since January? He basically had a 3 month break. Tiredness has nothing to do with it, have you seen his sprint on the Mur Friday? His 30"-1' numbers are insane. It' just his 10"-15" numbers that seem to be lower than previously. Yesterday was like 1150W for 12s. You'll never win a sprint with that. Last year he was doing close to 1400W in easier races. His sprint always looks laboured. Thats just his style.

 

[Rob5091]

Thanks for the numbers & info.
He did race from January until his crash in the middle of May, then did the Belgium NC RR in June then started again in July with the Wallonie tour so apart from the NC race he was away for 2 months (middle of May until middle of July).

 

[Bonimenier]

Peloton stopped riding as protest against the dangerous parcours. Some quality WT races this weekend

 

[Rob5091]

Yesterday was bad enough, so what the heck have the organizers come up with?

 

[Samamba]

i do think the parcours is ridiculous, they take some roads that cars don't even take, BUT if I knew this beforehand how do the teams/riders not know this beforehand. Also organizers ofcourse, I feel like they always overestimate their parcours and think it's gonna be like 10 riders left in the end while in reality it's a parcours for a bunch sprint.

They just restarted, not sure what the solution is now. Can't just change the last 5km.

 

[yaco]

Why is Schmid at the Deutschland Tour instead of the Renewi Tour? I can see why he is leaving QS.

 

[Samamba]

No boni seconds, no "green km", GC times with 6k to go (just before the last climb). Will still be dangerous, basically a bunch sprint till the 6km banner, definitely given the climb after it and that there's still a stage win for grabs. If you neutralize a race just do GC times at 20km to go or something, not right before a climb.

Anyways, what a week for cycling. Horrible. Again, I agree that this parcours was way too sketchy, but this should've been handled before the race. Good to see riders act as one for once tho.

 

[Samamba]

Very possible that break stays away now.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The worst day for the sporting integrity of cycling. Ever. Why do I even bother with this sport?