Riccò hospitalized for possible kidney ailment

[Darryl Webster]

Yes just wait to Ricco starts naming names in the spirit of doing the right thing. I'm sure then the cycling world will think he's a rat!

They wont like his "Crediblity" much!

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

I agree w/Darryl and wish him full recovery. While instances like this can be maddening, for reasons pointed out by guys like Canc and Bettini in recent CN article:
Ricco to be questioned about blood doping investigation
it's also sad if what the article says is true about RR giving himself a transfusion with blood gone bad. That would mean he's been tampering with death and NEEDS a break from cycling.

 

[thehog]

They wont like his "Crediblity" much!

Yes if you get found out you're meant to go live in a log cabin someone and either deny you doped or say you're sorry and you doped alone. If I was Ricco reading all those lovely warm messages I would say "stuff this" and blow the top off the entire sham. Of course he'd just be labelled bitter..... bitter with a bad kidney.

 

[Benotti69]

So I guess that makes BMC a team of dopers too, now.

Big George is the man in the know for that

as Phonak they were, what's changed?

 

[Darryl Webster]

Yes if you get found out you're meant to go live in a log cabin someone and either deny you doped or say you're sorry and you doped alone. If I was Ricco reading all those lovely warm messages I would say "stuff this" and blow the top off the entire sham. Of course he'd just be labelled bitter..... bitter with a bad kidney.

Is this the prefered route back?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xHjC27YvM

 

[alpine_chav]

So I guess that makes BMC a team of dopers too, now.

You're winding me up now? Have a look down the list of positives from 2010 and count the bmc riders... there's more than one... so yea in all likelihood they are a team of dopers. If you win you dope because you have to dope to win... it's really very simple and if you think otherwise you have either never raced or have severe mental health issues.

 

[Darryl Webster]

If you win you dope because you have to dope to win... it's really very simple and if you think otherwise you have either never raced or have severe mental health issues.

Sadly half the poor saps in the peloton are doping merely to keep up!

 

[Barrus]

Allright people, leave the BMC, Gilbert and such discussion to other threads. Martin has warned you about it and if you continue in this manner, some consequences will come of it, perhaps not as severe as the Armstrong talk, but still sanctions might occur

 

[rhubroma]

What I found to be particularly reprehensible were the comments of Cancellara.

I mean, if they had been spoken from someone outside the sport and not one with his impressive cycling palmares, I'd say they were actually quite perspicacious and cleverly phrased in the critical sense.

However, as I find it extremely difficult to believe that this athlete doesn't house a few skeletons in his cycling closet (all that time on a team manage by a certain Riis), the words rang as if sprung from the mouth of the most cynical of hypocrites. Not even Machiavelli could have put it better.

 

[kurtinsc]

I think all the comments about Ricco have much less to do with the doping angle and much more to do with the fact most cyclists simply don't like the guy.

He seems to get under EVERYONE'S skin.

 

[hektoren]

What I found to be particularly reprehensible were the comments of Cancellara. I'd say his comments were actually quite perspicacious and cleverly phrased in the critical sense.
.

I believe you hit the nail on its headPerspicacious, and able to phrase cleverly in the critical sense indeed:

Why don't you cut him some slack?

 

[roundabout]

So Ricco denies.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=35435

He must really love the sport.

 

[rhubroma]

I believe you hit the nail on its headPerspicacious, and able to phrase cleverly in the critical sense indeed:

Why don't you cut him some slack?

Because I never cut perverse hypocrisy "some slack". Va bene?

 

[hektoren]

Because I never cut perverse hypocrisy "some slack". Va bene?

Neither do I with perverse ignorance as to the going-ons in the "Riis-managed team" coupled with a similarly perverse inner need to express prejudice. Tutto bene!

 

[Benotti69]

So Ricco denies.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=35435

He must really love the sport.

i wonder who visited him and told him what's what

 

[Arnout]

What source is there other than a doctor that is not quoted, but according to the Gazetta said what Ricco said?

 

[Darryl Webster]

I believe you hit the nail on its headPerspicacious, and able to phrase cleverly in the critical sense indeed:

Why don't you cut him some slack?

Ah, the other "golden one".
World TT champ by 2and half minutes sat up for the last half mile...like ya do!

Has to be up there in the panthion of most obviously charged rides of all time!
A fecking joke!

 

[Benotti69]

What source is there other than a doctor that is not quoted, but according to the Gazetta said what Ricco said?

none as yet but if as the paper is correct in its reporting Ricco is now under investigation. I bet the police have been to his apartment and checked it out.

 

[Escarabajo]

Pardon? How is this a example of doping?

I don't say is proof, but it does not look good (I said that during the Giro broadcast itself). Show me trains formed by teams pre-1990 and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

This is a very hard sport and there are just a few very talented riders who can climb and recuperate in those massive GT climbs. It has been proven for decades of history of tours. What happens next is that the sponsors will try to get one of those talented riders to win the Tour for their team. It is very unlikely they will go to the same team LOL. You had Fignon going to one team, Hinault to the other with Greg, Delgado to other team, Robert Millar to other team and so on. Imagine all of them in the same team. That never happened. Maybe if cycling had an owner like the Yankees baseball team I'd believe it, but that money for cycling is just a waste.

I remember Horner himself criticizing the US Postal trains. There has been quiet a few riders outspoken about the formation of trains in the climbs because they know is not natural. And they are in the inside, so they know better what is going on.

Now I am OT. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Good post by Luckyboy. How come Di Luca does not get a life ban? Maybe Ricco cooperates again and gets away with it again (??).

 

[hrotha]

i wonder who visited him and told him what's what

Maybe it was all Riccò's doing, once he thought "hey I'm not in critical condition anymore, time to think what's going to happen when I get out of this here hospital."

 

[rhubroma]

Neither do I with perverse ignorance as to the going-ons in the "Riis-managed team" coupled with a similarly perverse inner need to express prejudice. Tutto bene!

Benissimo! Nawww, I'm not perverse. It's only that you seem to me like that fellow who possess but one idea, and it is the wrong one.

In the immortal words of Oscar Wilde: "It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances".

Oh and familiarity breeds contempt.

 

[hektoren]

Cancellara enjoyed a close relationship with Aldo Sassi, from his Team Mapei days. I'd say he's entitled to ventilate his anger at anybody who's taking a dump on Sassis grave, without condemnation from the prejudiced crowd in here.

 

[rhubroma]

Cancellara enjoyed a close relationship with Aldo Sassi, from his Team Mapei days. I'd say he's entitled to ventilate his anger at anybody who's taking a dump on Sassis grave, without condemnation from the prejudiced crowd in here.
If you know something and sit on evidence, I'm listening. Otherwise, keep schtumm.

...Troll!

 

[Darryl Webster]

I don't say is proof, but it does not look good (I said that during the Giro broadcast itself). Show me trains formed by teams pre-1990 and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I remember Horner himself criticizing the US Postal trains. There has been quiet a few riders outspoken about the formation of trains in the climbs because they know is not natural. And they are in the inside, so they know better what is going on.

.

Check out footage of Merckx in the 60`s fot the earliest footage of "trains".
In his Molteni days Merckx was surrounded by huge tallant. His right hand man ( somone else may recall his name ) was reckoned to have been even stronger than Merckx (!) but prefered the Lieutenant role.
Lance "invented" nothing but he did bring back trains!

 

[hektoren]

Benissimo! Nawww, I'm not perverse. It's only that you seem to me like that fellow who possess but one idea, and it is the wrong one.

In the immortal words of Oscar Wilde: "It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances".

Oh and familiarity breeds contempt.

Oh, so you DO know something about the management, PED-wise, on CSC then. I'm all ears.........