Riccò hospitalized for possible kidney ailment

[DAOTEC]

Martedì 15 Febbraio | 10:15 Cobra case stalled, is now on legal drugs.

Riccò was transferred today to the resuscitation department of cardiology in Baggiovara hospital, guarded by a vigilante, which protects his privacy. The doctors continue to monitor his condition, caused by the physical shock Ricardo suffered on Feb. 6, when he arrived at the emergency room of the Pavullo hospit, with a unexplained infection, has now reached the lungs and cardiovascular tone. Riccò is treated with antibiotics and steroids to counter the infection. The climber is investigated by the prosecutor of Modena for violating the anti-doping law 376/2000 since last Wednesday, when a search was carried out in his home and girlfriend Vania Rossi Serramazzoni was interviewed. (Gazzetta dello Sport.it)

Now that is a change of tone.

few posts back biopass asked: What does it say? "articolo 9 della legge antidoping." Here is your answer nothing, it changes by the day as the defence is picking up speed and the mania cools down.

 

[frenchfry]

Even USPS were doing it in Girona, according to Floyd.

What gets me is how it goes from your fridge in Spain to the team bus in the Alps. Or from your house in Italy to your hotel in Paris.

It seems like there "has" to be someone to run "logistics" - whether it's a doctor, assistant, manager, brother, sister, father, wife, dog.

Not so hard when it's a race in your own country, as far as we can tell, Vania was probably the person who would have handled logistics for Ricco, at least in the Giro.

Fuentes would (still does?) rent an appartment in the TDF rest day towns. Of course this would be for gynecological consultations only.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Martedì 15 Febbraio | 10:15 Cobra case stalled, is now on legal drugs.

You do realize that story was available in english for about 45 minutes before you posted that machine-translated version? http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-still-in-a-serious-condition-with-heart-and-lung-infections

Just saying.......

Susan

 

[Jamsque]

Now now Susan, I know Dao likes to take sly shots at you every now and then but you have to rise above it and not fire back.

Ricco does seem to be in a bad way, but the tone of the reports don't seem super pessimistic so hopefully that means his prognosis is good in the long term.

 

[hrotha]

Daotec, could you link to the original news article? I can't find it on the Gazzetta website.

 

[rhubroma]

What does it say?

"Riccardo Riccò è formalmente indagato dalla Procura di Modena per presunta violazione dell'articolo 9 della legge antidoping."

It says that: "Ricardo Ricco' is now formally under investigation by the authorities of Modena for a presumed violation of article 9 of the anti-doping law."

 

[Darryl Webster]

Fuentes would (still does?) rent an appartment in the TDF rest day towns. Of course this would be for gynecological consultations only.

Would that be for groupies that are "late"?

 

[badskippy]

The end for Ricco

His health issues are a tragedy, but if you play russian roulette. The system is sick, from coaches, trainers to managers and of course riders.
I hope Mr Ricco recovers and doesn't face a prison sentence, i pray his advisors are found and then hung from a very high place. Whether you like it or not he is a victim, granted, he did not have to take his "medicine" but who gave it to him?
The system it seems, allows the likes of Armstrong, Contador, Valverde, etc etc etc to go about there business freely. What the bloody hell is going on with this sport, it's corrupt from bottom to top. God help us all if the flee is allowed to race this year, i do not want to see him at the Tour!

 

[ulrikmm]

Infection of the heart (as read in the cycling news bulletin): That is very very bad for Ricco. Endocarditis? Bacterial pericarditis?

Grave news indeed. Try look "infective endocarditis" up on wikipedia.

The steroids mentioned are of course not anabloic steroids. But glucocorticoids, that are needed to suppress inflammatory responses. These drugs have considerable side effects, and are only given, when there is an acute medical need.

This has nothing to do with doping. But trying to make your patient survive.

 

[ansimi]

I'm glad we got an update on his health. It sounds like he's going to be dealing with long-term complications I really hope he'll be able to live a full and productive life and at least be able to ride bikes with his son.

 

[fatandfast]

His health issues are a tragedy, but if you play russian roulette. The system is sick, from coaches, trainers to managers and of course riders.
I hope Mr Ricco recovers and doesn't face a prison sentence, i pray his advisors are found and then hung from a very high place. Whether you like it or not he is a victim, granted, he did not have to take his "medicine" but who gave it to him?
The system it seems, allows the likes of Armstrong, Contador, Valverde, etc etc etc to go about there business freely. What the bloody hell is going on with this sport, it's corrupt from bottom to top. God help us all if the flee is allowed to race this year, i do not want to see him at the Tour!

I hope Ricco listens to you and when he when the police come calling he rattles on about "it's the system,it's Lance's fault! Look at Alberto!!"He is not a victim..a victim of bad genes sure. A victim of not knowing when and when not to listen to "advisors(?)..I will put that on the check list..if advisor tells you to store your blood next to the mustard in the reefer disregard that advise. If advisor says go ahead and dope they were just kidding last time that wisdom will also go in the round file..bloody hell is right.

 

[hrotha]

Just because the system is also to blame that doesn't make Riccò a victim.

 

[Escarabajo]

Infection of the heart (as read in the cycling news bulletin): That is very very bad for Ricco. Endocarditis? Bacterial pericarditis?

Grave news indeed. Try look "infective endocarditis" up on wikipedia.

The steroids mentioned are of course not anabloic steroids. But glucocorticoids, that are needed to suppress inflammatory responses. These drugs have considerable side effects, and are only given, when there is an acute medical need.

This has nothing to do with doping. But trying to make your patient survive.

He is still being interrogated?? what is his physical conditions anyway, because I am getting mixed signals. If the infection is not bad enough that he can still can respond to interrogations?? wouldn't a doctor prohibit any kind of stress in this situation.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

The investigators have had to postpone their questioning of him due to this.

Susan

 

[Escarabajo]

The investigators have had to postpone their questioning of him due to this.

Susan

Thanks Susan.

 

[ulrikmm]

This is of course speculative at the moment, but i f Ricco has given himself endocarditis due to filthy infusions (like street iv drugs addicts often do), the treatment would call for at least 6 weeks of intravenous antibiotics, and a risk of heart valve replacement surgery and stroke, and a risk of pacemaker implantation too.

I think this answers the question: "It is my own blood, why am I not allowed to do with it, what I want".

 

[Colm.Murphy]

The investigators have had to postpone their questioning of him due to this.

Susan

I think that interrogating him during his medical crisis, and potentially (to a lesser extent) what he said upon admittance, could be considered "under duress".

What he "said" will not be so important. It is what his blood will say. i wonder what the CONI does in this scenario, can they ask for an anti-doping sample while he lies in his bed? How about blood test results taken by the hospital? Are those subject to some confidentiality restrictions?

It is a surety that he transfused crap blood, proving the case against him, as we see today with Berto, is another issue.

 

[MarkvW]

1.5 Million

I read a report that Vacansoleil was paying Ricco one and a half million dollars per year! And he's transfusing himself without medical assistance?

There is some dissonance here. He could afford help.

 

[Granville57]

Bob Roll reversal

This could just as easily fit into the "Pro Riders reaction..." thread but I decided to put it here.

I see that Bob Roll has added a new, and much more humane, tweet regarding Ricco.
http://twitter.com/#!/bobkeroll/status/37561435508711424

say a prayer for riccardo ricco, not out of woods yet and so many days in icu cant be good, doping bad, dying a whole different beast

Considering the obvious seriousness of Ricco's condition, it makes Roll's original tweet all the more appalling.
http://twitter.com/#!/bobkeroll/status/35108799442321408

paging dr ricco please report to the morgue you will be able to find your career there

Besides one link to an assorted group of various "tweets," I hardly saw any direct reference to Roll's original response. I was stunned by the crassness of that original remark and the incredibly inappropriate choice of words. Considering where Ricco may have ended up at the time--and by all accounts he's not safe yet--it should serve as a sobering reminder to anyone who feels the need to vent anger when a human life hangs in the balance.

And to those posters who defended such remarks--claiming that Ricco was, by some unknown definition, past the point of dire consequences at the time of harsh criticism against him--take note: his road to recovery is still uncertain. As was pointed out previously in this thread...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-still-in-a-serious-condition-with-heart-and-lung-infections

Don't confuse cycling with real life.

 

[flicker]

This could just as easily fit into the "Pro Riders reaction..." thread but I decided to put it here.

I see that Bob Roll has added a new, and much more humane, tweet regarding Ricco.
http://twitter.com/#!/bobkeroll/status/37561435508711424


Considering the obvious seriousness of Ricco's condition, it makes Roll's original tweet all the more appalling.
http://twitter.com/#!/bobkeroll/status/35108799442321408


Besides one link to an assorted group of various "tweets," I hardly saw any direct reference to Roll's original response. I was stunned by the crassness of that original remark and the incredibly inappropriate choice of words. Considering where Ricco may have ended up at the time--and by all accounts he's not safe yet--it should serve as a sobering reminder to anyone who feels the need to vent anger when a human life hangs in the balance.

And to those posters who defended such remarks--claiming that Ricco was, by some unknown definition, past the point of dire consequences at the time of harsh criticism against him--take note: his road to recovery is still uncertain. As was pointed out previously in this thread...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-still-in-a-serious-condition-with-heart-and-lung-infections

Don't confuse cycling with real life.

G.
Please do not pick on Roll, my immediate reactions were the same as his.
Ricco has always been an advocate for PEDs, he was out of the closet since day 1. His position has never changed, even after his sanction.
For myself, I feel sorry for Riccos' child and his family.

As for Ricco, good luck pal see ya wouldn't want ta be ya.

As one human to another please God make Rick well. Body mind and spirit.

 

[131313]

Don't confuse cycling with real life.

While I realize you'll simply view this as a "crass" comment, the reality is that cycling IS real life, that's why he's in the predicament he's in.

I feel badly for him. I feel a lot worse for those fighting illnesses which were not of their own doing. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he made a conscious choice, and now he's facing some severe consequences.

Maybe some others can learn from this whole thing.

 

[Wallace]

While I realize you'll simply view this as a "crass" comment, the reality is that cycling IS real life, that's why he's in the predicament he's in.

I feel badly for him. I feel a lot worse for those fighting illnesses which were not of their own doing. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he made a conscious choice, and now he's facing some severe consequences.

Maybe some others can learn from this whole thing.

The lesson in all this is that you shouldn't dope unless you are a very successful Spanish rider.

 

[Granville57]

While I realize you'll simply view this as a "crass" comment, the reality is that cycling IS real life, that's why he's in the predicament he's in.

I feel badly for him. I feel a lot worse for those fighting illnesses which were not of their own doing. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he made a conscious choice, and now he's facing some severe consequences.

Maybe some others can learn from this whole thing.

I agree with you. I just found the word "morgue" to be incredibly inappropriate in Bobke's remark. It would appear that Ricco has done greater harm to himself, and to his own life, than to the sport. And that is all I meant by the comparison. But yes, Ricco must bear the responsibility for his actions and I will second your last statement: I hope others do learn from this and the inherent dangers attached to any sort of "preparation."

 

[Benotti69]

While I realize you'll simply view this as a "crass" comment, the reality is that cycling IS real life, that's why he's in the predicament he's in.

I feel badly for him. I feel a lot worse for those fighting illnesses which were not of their own doing. Let's not lose sight of the fact that he made a conscious choice, and now he's facing some severe consequences.

Maybe some others can learn from this whole thing.

you would have thought that the sport might have learned something from the incredible images of Tom Simpson on Ventoux and i bet they wont learn anything from Ricco's sad episode either.

 

[hrotha]

Well, I know when a smoker gets cancer people tend to sympathize.