Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[Red Rick]

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No TDU, Porte's already puclicly said so even before this year's Tour.
Giro? I doubt Porte would sign for a team that wouldn't promise him Tour leadership, even if it meant taking a bigger pay cut than he already did.

He has also moved to the team with maybe the least amount of competition for Tour leadership. No GC threat, no sprinter.

No respect for

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well the last time Mollema was GT level good was 2016. Granted, he was even in 2nd place and would've probably finished at least top4 without a fall. But still, in 17/18 he was never that level good.

 

[Red Rick]

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Well the last time Mollema was GT level good was 2016. Granted, he was even in 2nd place and would've probably finished at least top4 without a fall. But still, in 17/18 he was never that level good.

Can we go talk about Portes GT accomplishments now?

 

[movingtarget]

Porte and Mollema will both ride the Tour. Trying to predict their results just gives me a headache..........or maybe Mollema gladly takes on the Giro leadership ? Who knows ? One thing is clear. Porte's Tour team won't be any better than BMC's, probably worse.

This could possibly be Porte's final contract as it will take him up to the age of almost 36. Somehow I don't see him hanging around too long after that, if at all.

 

[Bolder]

Going to be tough next year for Porte but maybe a fresh start with lower expectations will help. To be honest a top 5 GT finish would count as a moral victory. Mollema showed flashes of excellence this year. I could see both in the TdF having an impact. As for motivation post-tour debacle, I really thought he'd do well in the vuelta...was stunned to just see him basically riding around Spain.

 

[Robert5091]

Will LRP get past stage 9 is the question.

 

[movingtarget]

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Will LRP get past stage 9 is the question.

Well he finished the Vuelta.........not that he looked that interested.

 

[glassmoon]

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Will LRP get past stage 9 is the question.

Well he finished the Vuelta.........not that he looked that interested.

well... the risks are higher once you actually try to win or even give a sh*t...

 

[Squire]

So, according to an interview with Koen de Kort, Richie Porte is likely to do the Tour Down Under next year as well.

 

[Alanfresco]

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Going to be tough next year for Porte but maybe a fresh start with lower expectations will help. To be honest a top 5 GT finish would count as a moral victory.

+1.

Porte wont ever win one but this would be a good result for him, and Trek to be honest.

 

[yaco]

Think Porte's coach must have given up - Has advised for the last 3 years not to ride the TDU if he is serious about GC at a GT.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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So, according to an interview with Koen de Kort, Richie Porte is likely to do the Tour Down Under next year as well.

After already saying repeatedly this summer that he absolutely wouldn't because it ruined his 2018.

Oh well, why am I surprised. It's very much in character to say one thing and do another.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Why would riding the TDU effect Porte in the GTs? Is ot because he would still be home and not want to train as hard or a different reason?

 

[Simurgh]

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Think Porte's coach must have given up - Has advised for the last 3 years not to ride the TDU if he is serious about GC at a GT.

There is a saying that goes something like "Madness is doing the same over and over again, expecting a different outcome.". Some time ago I would have felt sorry for Porte, but a high VO2 max doesn't make a good bike rider on its own. He should ride the Giro, but he seems destined to fail at the Tour. Again.

 

[Red Rick]

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Why would riding the TDU effect Porte in the GTs? Is ot because he would still be home and not want to train as hard or a different reason?

Cause it's stupidly early in the season to be in really good shape I guess. Like you train harder in the winter and that'll help you from January till April but when you need the legs to be fresh for a GT you've just done too much already.

 

[SHAD0W93]

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Why would riding the TDU effect Porte in the GTs? Is ot because he would still be home and not want to train as hard or a different reason?

Cause it's stupidly early in the season to be in really good shape I guess. Like you train harder in the winter and that'll help you from January till April but when you need the legs to be fresh for a GT you've just done too much already.

That makes sense. If he does ride it he should just do it for training than instead of going all out trying to win W. Hill like the last 5 years.

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

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Why would riding the TDU effect Porte in the GTs? Is ot because he would still be home and not want to train as hard or a different reason?

Whatever you're doing, you have to focus on the win.

 

[movingtarget]

i don't think anyone is in top shape in January it's just that the Australian riders have their national championships in January and the TDU in the same month as well as the Sun Tour. TDU is the beginning of the international season. Probably doesn't affect Porte too much as the stages are short and the climbs are not hard but Evans did not ride the TDU more than a few times and realized that a later start to the season with less racing in aging legs could pay dividends and it helped him in 2011. The fact that Porte still won the TDS after missing quite a lot of early season racing with sickness showed that he still had time to prepare for the Tour.

 

[Jancouver]

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Think Porte's coach must have given up - Has advised for the last 3 years not to ride the TDU if he is serious about GC at a GT.

There is a saying that goes something like "Madness is doing the same over and over again, expecting a different outcome.". Some time ago I would have felt sorry for Porte, but a high VO2 max doesn't make a good bike rider on its own. He should ride the Giro, but he seems destined to fail at the Tour. Again.

 

[memyselfandI]

On a positive side he did the Vuelta this season. He should aim for finishing Giro-Vuelta next season, overloading work fatigue and then aim for Giro or TdF GC 2020. If he could only aim for, say, polka dot jersey and/or stages next year, it could get monkey of his back and give him best morale and workload boost that way.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Why would riding the TDU effect Porte in the GTs? Is ot because he would still be home and not want to train as hard or a different reason?

Jet lag affects your training for a couple weeks, once coming, then again going back.
If you're a classics rider it's fine, but if you're a stage race GC guy where it's almost entirely about your power/weight numbers, it makes a difference

 

[Tim Booth]

Richie Porte is set to race the Herald Sun Tour for the first time in 8 years.
https://twitter.com/HeraldSunTour/status/1067723477996584961

 

[del1962]

Richie Porte is set to race the Herald Sun Tour for the first time in 8 years.
https://twitter.com/HeraldSunTour/status/1067723477996584961

Does that mean he is not doing TDU?

I don't think he should do TDU

 

[yaco]

According to the article Porte is riding the TDU, Cadel Evans and the Herald Sun Tour - I would be OK if he rode the latter two but this is a step too far - Anyway he will bring in the crowds and make Trevorrow happy.

 

[Nirvana]

I think is good if he'll ride more, putting all eggs in the Tour basket is too risky if he crash again.
If he manages to win one of the Australian races, one WT spring race and something more along (stages or another minor stage race) he can also start the Tour with less pressure to get results there.