Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[HelloDolly]

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So these Sky guys...they all look frail mentally. One thing go wrong and it's au revoir.

What SKY ALL look frail ,,,,rubbish

Kirienkya , Lopez, Froome, Poels, Sergio Henao ,Roche ...these are not frail whatever their ability

 

[Jelantik]

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Porte may quit the Giro!

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/giro-ditalia/richie-porte-may-quit-giro-ditalia-after-massively-disappointing-week-173370

what a disappointment. I would be disappointed if I were his team mate. He could show us if he indeed can hang with Contador in the mountain and grab stage victory. but ow well, mentally he was broken and his body isn't cooperating either.

 

[Velolover2]

Being mentally broken is almost worse than being physically damaged.

Because your body will always say stop before your mind.

 

[Tonton]

In the Netserk style:

Porte is like Nevermind: Not good and way overrated.

 

[pastronef]

In the Netserk style:

Porte is like Nevermind: Not good and way overrated.

ah non, il n'est pas bon du tout

Willunga, Nat TT, Malhao, P-N, Catalunya, Trentino

Lotto Jumbo and Cannondale would love to fail at the Giro with a beginning of the season like Porte alone

 

[arvc40]

Absolute worst thing he could do is quit !. What's the point in thinking about Tour, he's not leading the Team there !.

 

[arvc40]

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Being mentally broken is almost worse than being physically damaged.

Because your body will always say stop before your mind.

He should carry on. No good giving in just because its not going your way. Pushing on in this situation and trying for a stage will teach him what he can do.

 

[Red Rick]

He should go for a stage win now. This time he didn't have the bad day, this time he had the bad luck. Was well on his way to a podium place. Maybe he can go for a GT next year or switch teams and be #1 alfa dog GC rider

 

[Netserk]

In the Netserk style:

Porte is like Nevermind: Not good and way overrated.

What?! Nevermind is the bomb.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

In the Netserk style:

Porte is like Nevermind: Not good and way overrated.

Nevermind even in that assessment is still 800x the album The fricking Black Album is.

Mind you, Metallica were already overrated in the 80s, back when they didn't actually suck.

 

[Red Rick]

In the Netserk style:

Porte is like Nevermind: Not good and way overrated.

Nevermind even in that assessment is still 800x the album The fricking Black Album is.

Mind you, Metallica were already overrated in the 80s, back when they didn't actually suck.

Is there anything you don't know much about?

 

[Jancouver]

Well, while many around here think that his TT performance was mediocre due to his lost lack of interest due to all those "bad luck" events, I will stick with my original opinion published in this thread prior to the start of the Giro.

Some of the quotes below are a response to verbal attacks I received from Porte's fanboys for having an opinion on Porte's body fat levels and his dwarf size body type. You know who you are, I'm not expecting any apologies but I hope than next time I voice an opinion on any rider, you wont start calling me names for having an opinion regardless of the outcome of the race.

Lets recap:

02 May 2015 15:10
Apparently Little Ritchie is currently so skinny that he has the lowest body fat ever measured for a SKY team rider. If that is the case and he has been at these extremely low and "unhealthy" levels for a while it is just a matter of time when his body refuses to participate and 3 weeks long Giro is just that.

Quite honestly, I doubt that he will even last two weeks before cracking.

03 May 2015
Porte will never challenge Contador or anyone else in a 3 weeks long stage race. He does not have a body for that. 1 week races are OK for him but 3 weeks are completely different animal.

Anyway, Porte is not a little Colombian but an extremely short white man (my guess is 5'5" and 120lb.) Sure he can go fast on any climb but he just does not have the physique to be a grand tour winner.

04 May 2015
IMO Porte's body and physique is not built for 3 weeks races. It is same as those super short guys are not winning Paris-Roubaix. They dont have bodies for that and Porte does not have a body of GT winner and he should be focusing on being a helper.

I never said that Porte is not a great cyclist and I even said that he should focus on one week races. So all the haters and fangirls should stop taking shots at me until he does win the Giro or any other GT. Then, I would be more than happy to take the BS and take the walk of shame.

04 May 2015
First of all, I think that Porte's body fat is too low and unless there is something clinic related, his body will give up soon. (just come back and apologize during the Giro when Porte is out with some kind of illness or cracked completely)

As per his body type, my own theory is that a way below average size Caucasian man does not have the raw power/physique to win a three weeks long and hard GT. Thats all.

 

[King Boonen]

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04 May 2015
First of all, I think that Porte's body fat is too low and unless there is something clinic related, his body will give up soon. (just come back and apologize during the Giro when Porte is out with some kind of illness or cracked completely)

As per his body type, my own theory is that a way below average size Caucasian man does not have the raw power/physique to win a three weeks long and hard GT. Thats all.

Err... What?

 

[seldon71]

Richie should simply soldier on as a helper for König who could well still salvage even a Top5 placing for the team.

He is just 2 minutes away from 3rd place (Amador) and guys in front of König have mostly either looked average so far or are lieutenants for Contador/Aru.

Of course, Sky will never ask one of their Anglo-stars to serve a Czech rider in GT.

 

[dolophonic]

The fact that he/sky arnt really saying anything is telling.. when things are looking good they hold all kinds of press conferences.
Reality is LRP has not really looked good all Giro, he was always slow to respond and at Imola, the day he should have ridden with "Fire in his Belly"
He was nowhere .. all the talk wa Aru got dropped but LRP was not there as well.
I was hoping he would show us all what he is made of...
Conta had the crash and could have mad a lot of excuses.. come to think of it, thats a good reason to like Conta, he never makes excuses... he races.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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04 May 2015
First of all, I think that Porte's body fat is too low and unless there is something clinic related, his body will give up soon. (just come back and apologize during the Giro when Porte is out with some kind of illness or cracked completely)

As per his body type, my own theory is that a way below average size Caucasian man does not have the raw power/physique to win a three weeks long and hard GT. Thats all.

Err... What?

It makes no sense as Contador is a small Caucasian man too.

 

[BigMac]

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04 May 2015
First of all, I think that Porte's body fat is too low and unless there is something clinic related, his body will give up soon. (just come back and apologize during the Giro when Porte is out with some kind of illness or cracked completely)

As per his body type, my own theory is that a way below average size Caucasian man does not have the raw power/physique to win a three weeks long and hard GT. Thats all.

Err... What?

It makes no sense as Contador is a small Caucasian man too.

Porte is Snooki-short. Contador is Snooki-on-heels-short.

 

[King Boonen]

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04 May 2015
First of all, I think that Porte's body fat is too low and unless there is something clinic related, his body will give up soon. (just come back and apologize during the Giro when Porte is out with some kind of illness or cracked completely)

As per his body type, my own theory is that a way below average size Caucasian man does not have the raw power/physique to win a three weeks long and hard GT. Thats all.

Err... What?

It makes no sense as Contador is a small Caucasian man too.

I'm guessing it's going to turn into a one true Scotsman argument where he redefines what caucasian means every time a rider comes up. Pretty sure he can't argue with Bernard Hinault though... Or Joop Zoetemelk. The you have Carlos Sastre, Cadel Evans, Marco Pantani, Damiano Cunego, Gilberto Simoni and so on...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

porte is now 30 and we can savely say he will never amount to anything in gt's

 

[Lambanna]

I do feel a little sympathy for Richie I have to confess, I would not be a fan of sky but I would assume he went into this Giro thinking top 3 definitely possible, this could guarantee a better contract for next year be it at sky or somewhere else, to have that blown up in a very public way has to hurt, as someone else noted earlier for GTs it could be Sky now assign him to super domestique from now on, that would hurt particularly the way he had started the year, it does involve a deflation of ego and no matter who you are that hurts, in particular at pro level of any sport that can take a bit of time to get used to.

 

[Velolover2]

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Being mentally broken is almost worse than being physically damaged.

Because your body will always say stop before your mind.

He should carry on. No good giving in just because its not going your way. Pushing on in this situation and trying for a stage will teach him what he can do.

Nah, I don't think so. He is getting tired. Better save him for the Tour. He has had a long season. I think it's time that he gets some rest now. Today he said that he just didn't have the power to push on the pedals.

"I'll just take it as it come and go see the physio. It's massively disappointing, so have the last few days. I know the form I came into this race with. I had a bit of bad luck, but it wasn't bad luck today, I just didn't have it.”

I kinda like that answer. At least he is being honest.

 

[damian13ster]

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The fact that he/sky arnt really saying anything is telling.. when things are looking good they hold all kinds of press conferences.
Reality is LRP has not really looked good all Giro, he was always slow to respond and at Imola, the day he should have ridden with "Fire in his Belly"
He was nowhere .. all the talk wa Aru got dropped but LRP was not there as well.
I was hoping he would show us all what he is made of...
Conta had the crash and could have mad a lot of excuses.. come to think of it, thats a good reason to like Conta, he never makes excuses... he races.

Memory span of a mockingbird?
Just this Giro he already made tons of excuses, even though everyone saw he was fine and his climbing or position of a bike wasn't affected at all.

I think its actually Porte who is not making any excuses. The only really complaint you heard from a man wasn't even directed to a media, it was just a short statement to team doctor saying his knee is fu**** so he can't do a cooldown.
And this is from a man who got a puncture, a 2 minute penalty and crashed, so Contador is much bigger p**** when it comes to complaining, although he is a superior rider.

 

[No_Balls]

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Well, once you start to dwell about abandon the race. You eventual will do that also:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/portes-continued-giro-ditalia-participation-uncertain-after-time-trial-disappointment

 

[veganrob]

No fan of Porte at all but he should continue and try to make something positive of his Giro. Quiting now will leave that taste of failure in his mouth for long time.

 

[darwin553]

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Being mentally broken is almost worse than being physically damaged.

Because your body will always say stop before your mind.

I disagree. Porte has made the strategic decision to focus on the tour and therefore, has decided to not put in as much effort in this TT as he knew his chances of winning the Giro were shot once the 2 min penalty had been applied. No point expending all this energy trying to get on the podium when he can serve Froome at the Tour and possibly save some further energy for the Vuelta.