Disappointing. If he doesn't feel like he can drop Froome here, I don't think he will be able to drop him anywhere. Odds are against him since Froome can dictate the tempo AND is in yellow.
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Valv.Piti said:Disappointing. If he doesn't feel like he can drop Froome here, I don't think he will be able to drop him anywhere. Odds are against him since Froome can dictate the tempo AND is in yellow.
deValtos said:Not amazing signs from Richie but they were not awful either. It wasn't exactly a climb that suited him.
Plus if you want to be positive Roche finished 13th and Caruso not long after as well as Kung & Schar controlling a 7 man break solely by themselves. Team is looking good despite the pre tour concerns.
deValtos said:Not amazing signs from Richie but they were not awful either. It wasn't exactly a climb that suited him.
Plus if you want to be positive Roche finished 13th and Caruso not long after as well as Kung & Schar controlling a 7 man break solely by themselves. Team is looking good despite the pre tour concerns.
Blanco said:deValtos said:Not amazing signs from Richie but they were not awful either. It wasn't exactly a climb that suited him.
Plus if you want to be positive Roche finished 13th and Caruso not long after as well as Kung & Schar controlling a 7 man break solely by themselves. Team is looking good despite the pre tour concerns.
Quite opposite, it was exactly a climb that suited him!
Son of Amsterhammer said:Blanco said:deValtos said:Not amazing signs from Richie but they were not awful either. It wasn't exactly a climb that suited him.
Plus if you want to be positive Roche finished 13th and Caruso not long after as well as Kung & Schar controlling a 7 man break solely by themselves. Team is looking good despite the pre tour concerns.
Quite opposite, it was exactly a climb that suited him!
I think it was too short. Why do you think it was one that suited him?
HelloDolly said:I think BMC in an effort to make the race hard and somewhat stick it to SKY in fact may have made it too hard for themselves and Richie
Porte usually has a belting kick on climbs like today but I think riding at the front all day may have fatigued him....I know he is on the wheel but he still got the wind ...no side shelter ,etc ...not to mention the pressure
Dan Martin was great but he is great on very hard stages ....
I think their objective was to tire SKY and to an extent they did that ...but a better strategy might been to bring Porte to the last climb as fresh as possible and see then if he can out climb Froome & Aru....I don't think there si anyone in the SKY train that could follow a Richie attack except Froome (or indeed an Aru attack)...They have no Poles and the rest are good but not that good at the moment
Valv.Piti said:Maybe because its reduces the stress and possibility of crashes, I personally like when they do that as I always fear crashes, but I think you guys have a point. It must have zapped Porte a bit.
Saying Aru "hardly figured" in the Dauphine is just crazy considering it was Aru and Valverdes attack that cost him the winBrullnux said:Reading Porte and Piva's comments on Aru, I can only gather that they are clearly idiots.
I think they were going up that mountain at a pretty high speed. Aru was faster than Froome in 2012. The pace they set was very fast, and when it's fast like that you focus on the wheel in front of you.tobydawq said:Regarding the bolted part: I always wonder when I see these mountain stages, why the teams ride like they do in single file, because that is sure to be harder than if they ride in a regularly shaped peloton. Today, for long periods of time, BMC, Sky and Trek were riding single-file in the first 27 (or so) positions of the field, and the peloton was - at times - almost strung completely out without it being due to high speed. Why do it like that?
Eagle said:Saying Aru "hardly figured" in the Dauphine is just crazy considering it was Aru and Valverdes attack that cost him the winBrullnux said:Reading Porte and Piva's comments on Aru, I can only gather that they are clearly idiots.
deValtos said:Not amazing signs from Richie but they were not awful either. It wasn't exactly a climb that suited him.
Plus if you want to be positive Roche finished 13th and Caruso not long after as well as Kung & Schar controlling a 7 man break solely by themselves. Team is looking good despite the pre tour concerns.
5 seconds off the podium and the virtual leader for much of the final stagemovingtarget said:Eagle said:Saying Aru "hardly figured" in the Dauphine is just crazy considering it was Aru and Valverdes attack that cost him the winBrullnux said:Reading Porte and Piva's comments on Aru, I can only gather that they are clearly idiots.
He meant the overall.
Eagle said:5 seconds off the podium and the virtual leader for much of the final stagemovingtarget said:Eagle said:Saying Aru "hardly figured" in the Dauphine is just crazy considering it was Aru and Valverdes attack that cost him the winBrullnux said:Reading Porte and Piva's comments on Aru, I can only gather that they are clearly idiots.
He meant the overall.
HelloDolly said:I think BMC in an effort to make the race hard and somewhat stick it to SKY in fact may have made it too hard for themselves and Richie
Porte usually has a belting kick on climbs like today but I think riding at the front all day may have fatigued him....I know he is on the wheel but he still got the wind ...no side shelter ,etc ...not to mention the pressure
Dan Martin was great but he is great on very hard stages ....
I think their objective was to tire SKY and to an extent they did that ...but a better strategy might been to bring Porte to the last climb as fresh as possible and see then if he can out climb Froome & Aru....I don't think there si anyone in the SKY train that could follow a Richie attack except Froome (or indeed an Aru attack)...They have no Poles and the rest are good but not that good at the moment
They might have believed that going hard on the flat would tire Sky more than it would tire them, because they believed they have better rouleurs, while Sky has better climbers.Angliru said:I can't imagine that BMC could work on the front for the purpose of tiring Sky without tiring themselves even more. It seems like a strategy destined to fail if in fact that was their plan. Is it that you think that BMC believes that they have a stronger team than Sky?
shalgo said:They might have believed that going hard on the flat would tire Sky more than it would tire them, because they believed they have better rouleurs, while Sky has better climbers.Angliru said:I can't imagine that BMC could work on the front for the purpose of tiring Sky without tiring themselves even more. It seems like a strategy destined to fail if in fact that was their plan. Is it that you think that BMC believes that they have a stronger team than Sky?
shalgo said:They might have believed that going hard on the flat would tire Sky more than it would tire them, because they believed they have better rouleurs, while Sky has better climbers.Angliru said:I can't imagine that BMC could work on the front for the purpose of tiring Sky without tiring themselves even more. It seems like a strategy destined to fail if in fact that was their plan. Is it that you think that BMC believes that they have a stronger team than Sky?
Son of Amsterhammer said:shalgo said:They might have believed that going hard on the flat would tire Sky more than it would tire them, because they believed they have better rouleurs, while Sky has better climbers.Angliru said:I can't imagine that BMC could work on the front for the purpose of tiring Sky without tiring themselves even more. It seems like a strategy destined to fail if in fact that was their plan. Is it that you think that BMC believes that they have a stronger team than Sky?
Or they didn't care how fried they were, because they just wanted Froome to be less than fresh when he kicked. If so, it probably worked. Because his burst definitely had less bite than in years past. He usually creates significant distance when he goes all out. Hard to know for sure though.