Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[Tim Booth]

His team confirmed Sunday night that the 33-year-old Australian has suffered a break in the right collarbone. "Porte must rest for at least a week before he can use the exercise bike. After three or four weeks he can train on the bike and after six to eight weeks he should be able to race again ", the team doctor said.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/2306988/pechvogel-porte-twee-maanden-aan-de-kant

 

[Richeypen]

His team confirmed Sunday night that the 33-year-old Australian has suffered a break in the right collarbone. "Porte must rest for at least a week before he can use the exercise bike. After three or four weeks he can train on the bike and after six to eight weeks he should be able to race again ", the team doctor said.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/2306988/pechvogel-porte-twee-maanden-aan-de-kant

Maybe ok in time for the Vueta then. Departs in about 6 weeks.

 

[Koronin]

His team confirmed Sunday night that the 33-year-old Australian has suffered a break in the right collarbone. "Porte must rest for at least a week before he can use the exercise bike. After three or four weeks he can train on the bike and after six to eight weeks he should be able to race again ", the team doctor said.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/2306988/pechvogel-porte-twee-maanden-aan-de-kant

Maybe ok in time for the Vueta then. Departs in about 6 weeks.

That's going to be tough. Possible, but difficult.

 

[HelloDolly]

Its 5 weeks to the Vuelta

But why bother Froome is riding the Vuelta and will probably win

 

[movingtarget]

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Its 5 weeks to the Vuelta

But why bother Froome is riding the Vuelta and will probably win

Bookmakers won't take any risks. Froome will be favourite...........and the for the Worlds.

 

[movingtarget]

So it sounds like Porte isn't having an operation must be one clean break in the collarbone. Doing part of the Tour will help him but it will be tough to be ready in time.

 

[movingtarget]

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The official communicque is "ac disjonction". IMO, at least try riding, but there are three "stories" floating at this point so...

Welcome to cyberspace 2018.

 

[Koronin]

Re: Re:

Its 5 weeks to the Vuelta

But why bother Froome is riding the Vuelta and will probably win

Bookmakers won't take any risks. Froome will be favourite...........and the for the Worlds.

Not for the Worlds. He's never proven he can do anything in a one day race.

 

[Escarabajo]

He need to try to ride the Vuelta. This would be the second year without a 3 week race.

 

[Jspear]

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Its 5 weeks to the Vuelta

But why bother Froome is riding the Vuelta and will probably win

Bookmakers won't take any risks. Froome will be favourite...........and the for the Worlds.

Not for the Worlds. He's never proven he can do anything in a one day race.

I think that was sort of a joke. Like Froome just can’t lose.

 

[movingtarget]

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He need to try to ride the Vuelta. This would be the second year without a 3 week race.

Leaving the team might impact on that though. I hope not. Let him try.

 

[yaco]

Its essential that Porte rides the Vuelta to build a base for 2019. Can't have Froome or Porte for the worlds.

 

[bambino]

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Its 5 weeks to the Vuelta

But why bother Froome is riding the Vuelta and will probably win

Vuelta starts exactly 1 day short of 6 weeks from his crash. Froome driving or not isn't going to make any difference, because Richie in this situation will probably not be contender for win anyway - just finishing 3 weeks GT would be step forward for him in the career right now.

 

[Pricey_sky]

A reminder folks, please don’t post any ill wishes towards a rider crashing and getting hurt, that includes making fun of the situation.

 

[movingtarget]

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Its essential that Porte rides the Vuelta to build a base for 2019. Can't have Froome or Porte for the worlds.

Yes otherwise it's another year without a GT completed. No wonder he is so eager to always do the TDU.....

 

[Yingge]

Has any video of the actual crash been seen (seen plenty of the aftermath)? Just wondering what might have been the cause.

 

[Cookster15]

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The guy is 33 and doesn’t have a GT podium despite all his obvious talent. I think the statistics are very clear. It’s something more than just “bad luck” with him.

Of course, everyone knew that - its not a case of bad luck, rather about not being able your handle your bike properly and yes, being a weak character with a relatively fragile psyche it seems. Yes, I think Porte is weak, he is not a Tour de France winner, but can win the Vuelta if absolutely everything falls into place.

Imagine Contador pulling out today. Wouldn't have happened. Or Nibali, or Quintana...

Well I'll put my hand up and say I thought as you did before news came through about his broken collarbone. Care to rephrase now we know the full extent? Contador, Nibali or Quintana wouldn't have ridden on with a broken collarbone either. Simple reason, regardless of the pain it isn't possible. Can't hold the bars. Plus remember the crash occurred before the cobbles.

 

[yaco]

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Its essential that Porte rides the Vuelta to build a base for 2019. Can't have Froome or Porte for the worlds.

Yes otherwise it's another year without a GT completed. No wonder he is so eager to always do the TDU.....

This is why Ewan is so desperate to ride the Vuelta - he misses the Vuelta, then rides the TDF in 2019 which means he's missed six consecutive GT's.

 

[movingtarget]

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Has any video of the actual crash been seen (seen plenty of the aftermath)? Just wondering what might have been the cause.

Just seemed to be the usual touch of wheels. Not sure if a rider hit a spectator. Maybe the spectators only got involved because the outside riders went off the road. But some of the riders said the race was pretty chaotic even before they reached the cobbles, looking for a good position I suppose before the cobbles started. But the crash happened early at the 10 km mark so who knows. Wrong place at the wrong time for Richie. Dumoulin just missed it on the left hand side of Porte according to him.

 

[movingtarget]

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Its essential that Porte rides the Vuelta to build a base for 2019. Can't have Froome or Porte for the worlds.

Yes otherwise it's another year without a GT completed. No wonder he is so eager to always do the TDU.....

This is why Ewan is so desperate to ride the Vuelta - he misses the Vuelta, then rides the TDF in 2019 which means he's missed six consecutive GT's.

Yeah they both need the race. I think Ewen could have done at least as well as Greipel in the Tour, probably better.

 

[CQmanager]

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C'mon guys! Swiss is just another Willunga Hill one week race. We all know that he can sprint up one hill for a few minutes

... but we all also know that the little man will crack sooner than later and will be out of contention by the 3rd week. Which may be a good thing as he may be targeting stages instead.

C'mon guys, TdF is not a Willunga Hill.

Jancouver's odds for TLMRP TdF.

1st - 0%
2nd - 0.5%
3rd - 1%
4-5th - 3.5%
6-9th - 5%
10+ 90%

Its redemption time for RP.
He'll at least podium. He's a candidate for the win.

You forgot DNF and DNS.

For me the DNF/DNS is the same as finishing outside the Top 10.

So yeah, 90% chance he will “deliver” another traditional performance and will not make the Top 10

Just reading through this thread and it seems like Jancouver was right once again.

Also, I have to agree that crashing, again and again, is not just a bad luck but there is something wrong with his bike handling skills and positioning in the peloton.

 

[yaco]

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Its essential that Porte rides the Vuelta to build a base for 2019. Can't have Froome or Porte for the worlds.

Yes otherwise it's another year without a GT completed. No wonder he is so eager to always do the TDU.....

This is why Ewan is so desperate to ride the Vuelta - he misses the Vuelta, then rides the TDF in 2019 which means he's missed six consecutive GT's.

Yeah they both need the race. I think Ewen could have done at least as well as Greipel in the Tour, probably better.

Ewan was close to Gaviria in the TOC - Most frustrating thing is two of the finishes were slightly uphill which is his speciality, though he would have been following Groenewegen in stage 7 and 8.

 

[glassmoon]

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Has any video of the actual crash been seen (seen plenty of the aftermath)? Just wondering what might have been the cause.

Just seemed to be the usual touch of wheels. Not sure if a rider hit a spectator. Maybe the spectators only got involved because the outside riders went off the road. But some of the riders said the race was pretty chaotic even before they reached the cobbles, looking for a good position I suppose before the cobbles started. But the crash happened early at the 10 km mark so who knows. Wrong place at the wrong time for Richie. Dumoulin just missed it on the left hand side of Porte according to him.

Looks like Valgren's chain problem caused the pileup...
"Everyone was talking about the nervousness and the cobbles on Sunday, but the crash, in which among others Richie Porte and I got caught up, had nothing to do with that. Michael Valgren had a chain problem and that caused the crash," explained Keukeleire in a team press release.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/injuries-force-keukeleire-out-of-tour-de-france/

 

[stefank]

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Has any video of the actual crash been seen (seen plenty of the aftermath)? Just wondering what might have been the cause.

Just seemed to be the usual touch of wheels. Not sure if a rider hit a spectator. Maybe the spectators only got involved because the outside riders went off the road. But some of the riders said the race was pretty chaotic even before they reached the cobbles, looking for a good position I suppose before the cobbles started. But the crash happened early at the 10 km mark so who knows. Wrong place at the wrong time for Richie. Dumoulin just missed it on the left hand side of Porte according to him.

Looks like Valgren's chain problem caused the pileup...
"Everyone was talking about the nervousness and the cobbles on Sunday, but the crash, in which among others Richie Porte and I got caught up, had nothing to do with that. Michael Valgren had a chain problem and that caused the crash," explained Keukeleire in a team press release.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/injuries-force-keukeleire-out-of-tour-de-france/

Careful, we can't have any facts that might weaken the case of the Porte detractors!

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

Has any video of the actual crash been seen (seen plenty of the aftermath)? Just wondering what might have been the cause.

Just seemed to be the usual touch of wheels. Not sure if a rider hit a spectator. Maybe the spectators only got involved because the outside riders went off the road. But some of the riders said the race was pretty chaotic even before they reached the cobbles, looking for a good position I suppose before the cobbles started. But the crash happened early at the 10 km mark so who knows. Wrong place at the wrong time for Richie. Dumoulin just missed it on the left hand side of Porte according to him.

Looks like Valgren's chain problem caused the pileup...
"Everyone was talking about the nervousness and the cobbles on Sunday, but the crash, in which among others Richie Porte and I got caught up, had nothing to do with that. Michael Valgren had a chain problem and that caused the crash," explained Keukeleire in a team press release.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/injuries-force-keukeleire-out-of-tour-de-france/

Careful, we can't have any facts that might weaken the case of the Porte detractors!

There you go, a chain problem but of course Porte's critics see that as a bike handling problem.