Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[blackcat]

In his entire pre Sky career put together Porte scored 1362 cq points. In the last 2 months alone he has scored 60% of that figure.

But yeah, Sky bought all the best riders with their big budget that no one else could manage and thats why they have the only 3 riders that can beat Armstrong's times clean.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=1380168#p1380168

but Sky DID buy the best riders to fill the wholes, remember they still had to fulfill their defacto national team mandate, have TdF national rider within 5 years aspirations. So they bought Boasson, with always a look to Cav to fill the hole. Can Boasson Hagen was looking at the premier rider of the next generation in cobbled classics. And it was Peter Kennaugh that was seen at the second coming... not Wiggo.

And there are only 9 spots, in July. And those 9 spots, for a defacto national team, which had to foster the next British talent. Not the world cycling talent.

 

[blackcat]

Porte was 48th as a neopro the year before he signed for Sky

but he took that year off did not he, after Riis would not release him, he sucked that year, with an eye to crossing to Sky the next year.

And the year before, it was about the breakaway stage that gifted him a top 10 GC spot at the Giro

and Porte was about 25 in his first year on CSC Saxo.

did he have to work for Contador the next year tho, so this circumscribed his results even tho I bagged him out.

 

[Netserk]

Porte was 48th as a neopro the year before he signed for Sky

He was one month away from 27 when he joined Sky and his best climbing performance before that was the third week in the 2010 Giro being the ~15th best climber in the race (probably worse than that given the climbing doms that were better than him). It's not like he was 23 years old when he joined.

I really doubt anyone at that time thought he would have a 2013 like he did.

 

[roundabout]

He had been racing full time circa 2 years when he got his top 10.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Porte was 48th as a neopro the year before he signed for Sky

He was one month away from 27 when he joined Sky and his best climbing performance before that was the third week in the 2010 Giro being the ~15th best climber in the race (probably worse than that given the climbing doms that were better than him). It's not like he was 23 years old when he joined.

I really doubt anyone at that time thought he would have a 2013 like he did.

He just needed time to adapt in the peloton, being from a non-cycling country and all that...

 

[42x16ss]

TBF, Porte went straight from triathlon, to state series racing in 2007, to NRS in 2008 (where he smashed everyone, including Bobridge, Hepburn, Durbridge, Dennis etc) to continental racing in 2009. Having said that, Porte had pretty sketchy bike handling for someone at that level in 2008. He spent a fair bit of time out in the wind and still embarrassed us all.

 

[blackcat]

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TBF, Porte went straight from triathlon, to state series racing in 2007, to NRS in 2008 (where he smashed everyone, including Bobridge, Hepburn, Durbridge, Dennis etc) to continental racing in 2009. Having said that, Porte had pretty sketchy bike handling for someone at that level in 2008. He spent a fair bit of time out in the wind and still embarrassed us all.

plus he matched or bested Evans Mt Wellington climbing record.

I think cuddles was a tt, and Richie's was on a stage, or vice versa.

I know, well, I have the intuition Richie has an informal agreement with MAtt White, well, not deedofarrangement, but they have the plan for 2016. I wonder how many cars Jerry is sending Richie in the offseason. Gerry not Jerry.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Re:

TBF, Porte went straight from triathlon, to state series racing in 2007, to NRS in 2008 (where he smashed everyone, including Bobridge, Hepburn, Durbridge, Dennis etc) to continental racing in 2009. Having said that, Porte had pretty sketchy bike handling for someone at that level in 2008. He spent a fair bit of time out in the wind and still embarrassed us all.

plus he matched or bested Evans Mt Wellington climbing record.

I think cuddles was a tt, and Richie's was on a stage, or vice versa.

I know, well, I have the intuition Richie has an informal agreement with MAtt White, well, not deedofarrangement, but they have the plan for 2016. I wonder how many cars Jerry is sending Richie in the offseason. Gerry not Jerry.

that's a guess, no?

 

[Night Rider]

The force is strong http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/04/richi ... want-more/

Excuse me while I go vomit.

 

[the sceptic]

Re:

The force is strong http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/04/richi ... want-more/

Excuse me while I go vomit.

April fools article?

I like how Richie admits he used to be fat and lazy, but now he has decided to become professional and get some marginal gains like seeing what a climb looks like.

But what the hell was he doing these last couple of years then when he won without marginal gains and while being fat and drinking?

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

 

[sniper]

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In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

indeed, can´t get his story straight.
'more is less´. where is that "other names for doping" thread when you need it.

 

[the sceptic]

Re:

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

that's the beuaty of maringal gains. two exact opposite things can both be a marginal gain, like losing and gaining weight. Or training for 8 hours without your power meter vs not overtraining.

This means that everything you* do in life is a marginal gains and all performances are plausible without positive tests.



*but only if you are anglo and riding for sky

 

[sniper]

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

 

[TheSpud]

Re: Re:

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

*but only if you are anglo and riding for sky

But he isn't Anglo ...

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

The force is strong http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/04/richi ... want-more/

Excuse me while I go vomit.

April fools article?

I like how Richie admits he used to be fat and lazy, but now he has decided to become professional and get some marginal gains like seeing what a climb looks like.

But what the hell was he doing these last couple of years then when he won without marginal gains and while being fat and drinking?

Wait, so stuff like the 400km training days with Cam Wurf and 2-3 hours extra with the SRM off with Froome didn't count

 

[42x16ss]

Re:

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

Now he's just playing with us, I think my heads about to explode

PICK ONE STORY AND STICK TO IT!!!

 

[gillan1969]

Re: Re:

In a lot of ways I’ve just grown up, to be honest. This year, not once have I overtrained in my off-season and also now it’s the ‘less is more’ approach to things. It all helps.

Wait, I thought it was "just training harder" that worked?

*but only if you are anglo and riding for sky

But he isn't Anglo ...

in cycling history he is...e.g. 'the anglos are coming'
...lemond, anderson kelly roche millar...i.e. they spoke english

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

But he isn't Anglo ...

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Actually that Facepalm looks quite like Sir Brad.

 

[the sceptic]

Is little richie going to win every race he enters this year? This is starting to become unbearable.

 

[SeriousSam]

There was talk of Richie peaking too early. but maybe he's right and dominating every race so far was just him building form for his real targets.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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There was talk of Richie peaking too early. but maybe he's right and dominating every race so far was just him building form for his real targets.

Which races has he dominated exactly or is this post a joke? Obviously he is going to dominate this field in Trentino. I very much doubt he will win again this year after this week, maybe the odd stage here or there but no more.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Re: Re:

There was talk of Richie peaking too early. but maybe he's right and dominating every race so far was just him building form for his real targets.

Which races has he dominated exactly or is this post a joke? Obviously he is going to dominate this field in Trentino. I very much doubt he will win again this year after this week, maybe the odd stage here or there but no more.

Do you mind providing your reasoning for this hypothesis?

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Re: Re:

There was talk of Richie peaking too early. but maybe he's right and dominating every race so far was just him building form for his real targets.

Which races has he dominated exactly or is this post a joke? Obviously he is going to dominate this field in Trentino. I very much doubt he will win again this year after this week, maybe the odd stage here or there but no more.

Do you mind providing your reasoning for this hypothesis?

He will ride the Giro and then probably ride the Tour in support of Froome. After the Tour he is normally complete rubbish. Unless you fancy him to win the Giro then it's a complete no brainer isn't it? He certainly hasn't shown anything this year to suggest he is better than he has been in previous years. I'm not sure why some people think he is suddenly the best cyclist on the planet. Probably wishful thinking from some who are hoping he is so that it gives them more reason to bash Sky I suppose.