Richmond 2015 World Championships, Sep 19-27

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- Groped a podium girl's ass
- Pretended to grope a podium girl's ass
- Wore a douche T-shirt
- Is consistently obnoxious and always tries to be the centre of attention

It all paints an absolutely coherent image of what Sagan is like. Even if the podium incident was the worst thing he did, it's hardly judged by itself.
Metabolol said:
It's not sexual assault unless she decides it is.
Even if she was OK with it, did Sagan have any way to know in advance?
 
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classicomano said:
Lol EBH didnt chase after Sagan because he had to ride for Kristoff at all cost. What a bunch of stupid twats at #TeamNorway.
Literally the most *** tactical decision I've ever seen.

This was just miserable. He had 100% guaranteed won a medal and could even have become world champion if not for his RIDICULOUS loyalty.

I kinda saw this coming the entire week though, with the useless retards managing the team all repeating endlessly that they were 100% certain of a bunch sprint finish. They didn't even come up with a plan B, even if Edvald was in the form of his life.
 
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hrotha said:
- Groped a podium girl's ass
- Pretended to grope a podium girl's ass
- Wore a douche T-shirt
- Is consistently obnoxious and always tries to be the centre of attention

It all paints an absolutely coherent image of what Sagan is like. Even if the podium incident was the worst thing he did, it's hardly judged by itself.
Metabolol said:
It's not sexual assault unless she decides it is.
Even if she was OK with it, did Sagan have any way to know in advance?

No, he wouldn't have know if her brother/father was in the crowd either.
 
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maltiv said:
classicomano said:
Lol EBH didnt chase after Sagan because he had to ride for Kristoff at all cost. What a bunch of stupid twats at #TeamNorway.
Literally the most *** tactical decision I've ever seen.

This was just miserable. He had 100% guaranteed won a medal and could even have become world champion if not for his RIDICULOUS loyalty.

I kinda saw this coming the entire week though, with the useless retards managing the team all repeating endlessly that they were 100% certain of a bunch sprint finish. They didn't even come up with a plan B, even if Edvald was in the form of his life.

This guy took a natural born winner and transformed him into a worker bee.

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Andy262 said:
isn't the whole concept of podium girls inherently sexist? Just saying.

Shh, don't try to bring logic into this, people are busy being super duper offended. ;)
 
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Metabolol said:
It's not sexual assault unless she decides it is.

That is nonsensical. If she concents beforehand it isn't, that would be true. What you are saying is that if someone goes out on the street, sees some random person and kills him, it isn't muder because he was on the way jump from the cliff aourd the corner to commint suicide.
But as you cannot be this stupid, it is more reasonable to assume, that you just think that women "actually want it". Which just isn't true. A maybe against this you will come up with the "argument" that some achtually do want it. Well again your logic would be flawed and the argument nonsensical. You'd assume that this would prove your innitial point "they do actually want it", so if you find one, you've proven it. Well it just doesn't work that way with proof. But well: I could still be the one who is wrong about it, that the majority of women don't want to be groped, or raped, or be kitchen slaves. Why don't you go to the phone, and call cour wife, girlfriend, mom, sister or grandma and ask them? If you are so sure, there wouldn't be anything wrong with it? I don't for one minute believe you'd do it.
 
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hrotha said:
- Groped a podium girl's ass
- Pretended to grope a podium girl's ass
- Wore a douche T-shirt
- Is consistently obnoxious and always tries to be the centre of attention

It all paints an absolutely coherent image of what Sagan is like. Even if the podium incident was the worst thing he did, it's hardly judged by itself.
Metabolol said:
It's not sexual assault unless she decides it is.
Even if she was OK with it, did Sagan have any way to know in advance?

I dont get the consistent obnoxious part, whats all that about?
 
Unfortunately for me, I was driving my son to guitar lessons during the final 2 laps of the race today.

I'm a big fan of Peter Sagan and would have really enjoyed watching it in real time as the finale unfolded. I said before the race that I would like it if he won today and he did.

Congratulations to Peter Sagan! :D
 
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irondan said:
Unfortunately for me, I was driving my son to guitar lessons during the final 2 laps of the race today.

I'm a big fan of Peter Sagan and would have really enjoyed watching it in real time as the finale unfolded. I said before the race that I would like it if he won today and he did.

Congratulations to Peter Sagan! :D

noh! no guitar lesson come before a WC race.
ok joking :p
I am happy for you, you enjoyed even without watching
 
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maltiv said:
classicomano said:
Lol EBH didnt chase after Sagan because he had to ride for Kristoff at all cost. What a bunch of stupid twats at #TeamNorway.
Literally the most *** tactical decision I've ever seen.

This was just miserable. He had 100% guaranteed won a medal and could even have become world champion if not for his RIDICULOUS loyalty.

I kinda saw this coming the entire week though, with the useless retards managing the team all repeating endlessly that they were 100% certain of a bunch sprint finish. They didn't even come up with a plan B, even if Edvald was in the form of his life.

It's almost up there with Valverde not chasing Rui Costa two years ago. But not quite.
 
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Knutsen said:
Andy262 said:
isn't the whole concept of podium girls inherently sexist? Just saying.

It just shows that cycling stayed behind when everybody body else grew up back in the 70-ties. Sagan fits in.

It's not just cycling, you get lots of pretty women around the grid/podium in F1, Same in sports like speedway.

In American sports you get female cheerleaders who are mainly there to entertain the males in the crowd.
 
Maybe I'm just cynical, but I always have felt like the majority of professional athletes trend towards being self-absorbed jerks, so despite the fact that I'm generally pretty sensitive when people are sexist a**holes, I was pretty stoked to see Sagan win, on a sporting and theatrical narrative level. Sagan's effervescence seems part and parcel with his other self-absorbed qualities, so I can't celebrate without some reservation, and seeing him 'finally' win the big one was certainly not touching in the way that, say, Sean Kelly's voice breaking while commentating on Dan Martin's LBL win was. But man - the sport - and, sport - is full of a**holes who win. I've had a pretty unbroken string in my time following cycling, of which 'Armstrong ---> Cavendish' is a succinct summary. Sagan is a dude bro who seems to have come up in a dude bro culture, and while he seems interested in doing stuff that gets fans' attention (self-serving but fun), he also seems interested in doing things that his stupid dude bro friends will think is funny (self-serving and not fun). Lib's objections seem to be hugely amplified by the amount of attention that is paid to Sagan, and that makes sense. Still, I would rather hear him stumble through self-importantly prepared remarks about the refugee crisis than hear Dave Brailsford talk about anything ever. I can see how the parts of his character that I think are fun and balance out the crappy parts a bit can just be more annoying to someone that just thinks of them as a product of his unforgivable self-absorption.

Oh wait, did I just disagree with someone without calling them a baby or trying to show how little their opinion matters by feigning boredom? Sorry, I forgot about the unwritten rules of interacting on the internet. Waah wahh, yawn yawn Libertine, is what I meant to say.

Anyway, I really liked the line of high-fives in celebration as riders rode by a standing Sagan.
 
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pastronef said:
irondan said:
Unfortunately for me, I was driving my son to guitar lessons during the final 2 laps of the race today.

I'm a big fan of Peter Sagan and would have really enjoyed watching it in real time as the finale unfolded. I said before the race that I would like it if he won today and he did.

Congratulations to Peter Sagan! :D

noh! no guitar lesson come before a WC race.
ok joking :p
I am happy for you, you enjoyed even without watching
The sacrifices we make as parents... :p
 
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hrotha said:
- Groped a podium girl's ass
- Pretended to grope a podium girl's ass
- Wore a douche T-shirt
- Is consistently obnoxious and always tries to be the centre of attention

It all paints an absolutely coherent image of what Sagan is like. Even if the podium incident was the worst thing he did, it's hardly judged by itself.ķ
Metabolol said:
It's not sexual assault unless she decides it is.
Even if she was OK with it, did Sagan have any way to know in advance?

Guy does something stupid, whats new?