Riders to reach 100 pro wins

[SHAD0W93]

Should the winner of a combativity prize also count? The winner of a KOM competition in a one-day race? Best Catalan in Volta a Catalunya?

That’s not major competitions though, those are minor.

Did they talk about his Langkawi win?

And wasn't the talk about his TdF KoM win mostly about how he was a rather "meh" winner of that competition?

We did overall, but he was still brought up as a former winner by the commentary at large.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So what are our rules for inclusion here then?


There seems to be a generally accepted count: when a rider reaches a landmark number, all the cycling media seem to acknowledge it on the same occasion. Are we diverging from, for example, what is immediately obvious on the PCS page?

 

[Volderke]

It’s not about being the better rider, that’s a different discussion. The number of wins doesn’t make you a better rider.

I'm confused. I thought being the best is all about winning?
So better riders win more races?

Are you saying there is no correlation between the number of wins and how good a rider is? Utterly confused.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I'm confused. I thought being the best is all about winning?
So better riders win more races?

Are you saying there is no correlation between the number of wins and how good a rider is? Utterly confused.

The number of wins doesn't perfectly match up with how good a rider is.
Andre Greipel has 158 wins.
Peter Sagan has 121 wins.

It's still obvious that Sagan had the biggest wins and were the better rider.

 

[Panda Claws]

A stage race cannot function without time being taken but it doesn't need any subclassifications.

On the other hand a stage race where points are taken from race to race but not time is basically just the UCI competition.

No to subclassifications!

Have you ever participated in a quiz where there is a prize for the table that drinks the most? That's.the points classification. A sideshow for those who can't win the actual quiz.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Have you ever participated in a quiz where there is a prize for the table that drinks the most? That's.the points classification. A sideshow for those who can't win the actual quiz.

I need to go to more pub quizzes!

 

[Penninepeddler]

The number of wins doesn't perfectly match up with how good a rider is.
Andre Greipel has 158 wins.
Peter Sagan has 121 wins.

It's still obvious that Sagan had the biggest wins and were the better rider.

Cândido Barbosa with his 68 wins... obviously comparing him to Contador (68 wins) is just splitting hairs...

and naturally Barbosa was better than Davide Rebellin (62), Rik Van Steenbergen (62), Louison Bobet (64), Laurent Fignon (53), Chris Froome (46), Johan Museeuw (66), Alex Zülle (64), Paolo Bettini (60), Jan Raas (67), Gianni Bugno (59) etc etc.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Cândido Barbosa with his 68 wins... obviously comparing him to Contador (68 wins) is just splitting hairs...

and naturally Barbosa was better than Davide Rebellin (62), Rik Van Steenbergen (62), Louison Bobet (64), Laurent Fignon (53), Chris Froome (46), Johan Museeuw (66), Alex Zülle (64), Paolo Bettini (60), Jan Raas (67), Gianni Bugno (59) etc etc.

Didn't know Libertine had a burner account. All hail the Rebordosa Rocket!

 

[Netserk]

You don't think Demare will get seven French SSRs over the next couple of years?

Not faster than Rogla will grab 21 victories, no. I totally expect him to stall like Viviani and Kristoff.

I take it back. Now only 5 to go for Démare.

 

[SafeBet]

Viviani now at 89.

 

[Monte Serra]

End of season update (with difference since start of the thread)
Démare 95 (+6)
Viviani 89 (+3)
Roglič 80 (+16)
Groenewegen 69 (+7)
Ewan 60 (+3)
Pogačar 63 (+20)
Van der Poel 46 (+7)
Van Aert 44 (+6)
Jakobsen 45 (+9)
Evenepoel 50 (+17)

Philipsen 42
Kooij 28
De Lie 19

Démare should be able to get to 100 within the next season. Especially as he'll race a lot random 1.1/2.1 Circuit de France Profonde races with Arkrea. Viviani might have a harder time, especially as he'll probably focus more on the track next year. Pogačar and Evenepoel are fairly certain to complete the century, if they are spared from career altering injuries. If Roglič has at least two or three more solid seasons he'll get there as well. For Van der Poel and Van Aert it depends how long they'll continue their careers, but it seems like they might come up short. Ewan and Jakobsen show that sprinters sometimes level off at quite an early age. So even though De Lie and Kooij are having a flying start to their career, it takes a little stamina to get to 100. Philipsen seems to be well on his way though.

*edited Roglič's number of wins, thanks for pointing it out @SHAD0W93

 

[SHAD0W93]

End of season update (with difference since start of the thread)
Démare 95 (+6)
Viviani 89 (+3)
Roglič 81 (+17)
Groenewegen 69 (+7)
Ewan 60 (+3)
Pogačar 63 (+20)
Van der Poel 46 (+7)
Van Aert 44 (+6)
Jakobsen 45 (+9)
Evenepoel 50 (+17)

Philipsen 42
Kooij 28
De Lie 19

Démare should be able to get to 100 within the next season. Especially as he'll race a lot random 1.1/2.1 Circuit de France Profonde races with Arkrea. Viviani might have a harder time, especially as he'll probably focus more on the track next year. Pogačar and Evenepoel are fairly certain to complete the century, if they are spared from career altering injuries. If Roglič has at least two or three more solid seasons he'll get there as well. For Van der Poel and Van Aert it depends how long they'll continue their careers, but it seems like they might come up short. Ewan and Jakobsen show that sprinters sometimes level off at quite an early age. So even though De Lie and Kooij are having a flying start to their career, it takes a little stamina to get to 100. Philipsen seems to be well on his way though.

Where did you get the win totals from?
Roglic’s at 80 career and 15 season
Evenepoel 13 season
Pog 17 season
MVDP 6 season
WVA 5 season
Etc.

Professional wins | ProCyclingStats

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Panda Claws]

Crazy what happened with Gaviria (52).
He sat at 46 at the end of 2020 (26 years old) and just stalled.

 

[Panda Claws]

Where did you get the win totals from?
Roglic’s at 80 career and 15 season
Evenepoel 13 season
Pog 17 season
MVDP 6 season
WVA 5 season
Etc.

Professional wins | ProCyclingStats

www.procyclingstats.com

That's not season but rather since the beginning of the thread (august 2022 and poll).

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Crazy what happened with Gaviria (52).
He sat at 46 at the end of 2020 (26 years old) and just stalled.

Gaviria was already showing signs of stalling well before the end of 2020, though.

 

[RedheadDane]

Gaviria was already showing signs of stalling well before the end of 2020, though.

Didn't he get Covid 3 times in 2020?

 

[DNP-Old]

Didn't he get Covid 3 times in 2020?

Yes, but suffering from Betancuritis is what cost him. Man puts more effort into collecting cars, horses and partying with Sagan in Monaco than he cares for cycling.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Didn't he get Covid 3 times in 2020?

He was also showing signs of stalling before the start of 2020...

 

[SHAD0W93]

Who’s going to get to 82 wins first; EBH, Roglic, or Pogacar?

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard will soon show up on this list. He is ahead of Kooij, and can plausibly surpass Jakobsen this year.

 

[Elos Anjos]

If Roglic stayed at JV and gave us another one of his traditional seasons, he would certainly be the first one.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Démare 95
Viviani 89
Kristoff 88
EBH 81
Roglic 80
Groenewegen 70
Pogacar 65
Ewan 61
Evenepoel 54
Gaviria 52
Van der Poel 46
Van Aert 46
Jakobsen 45
Philipsen 44
Pedersen 40
Vingegaard 34
Kooij 32
De Lie 19

 

[SHAD0W93]

Démare 95
Viviani 89
Kristoff 88
EBH 81
Roglic 80
Groenewegen 70
Pogacar 65
Ewan 61
Evenepoel 54
Gaviria 52
Van der Poel 46
Van Aert 46
Jakobsen 45
Philipsen 44
Pedersen 40
Vingegaard 34
Kooij 32
De Lie 19

No love for the three I added.
I never would have guessed Pedersen has more wins than Vingegaard. I’d have thought Vinge was tied or slightly ahead. The way the tides have turned for some riders I think only Demare and Pogacar can reach 100 at this point with Evenepoel and Vinge a possibility.

 

[jono]

No love for the three I added.
I never would have guessed Pedersen has more wins than Vingegaard. I’d have thought Vinge was tied or slightly ahead. The way the tides have turned for some riders I think only Demare and Pogacar can reach 100 at this point with Evenepoel and Vinge a possibility.

I'd make the case for Philipsen. Already almost halfway there and had about 20 wins last year. I guess the question is will Alpecin (or whoever signs him next) continue to allow him to pile up stage wins in minor races like Tour of Turkey.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

No love for the three I added.
I never would have guessed Pedersen has more wins than Vingegaard. I’d have thought Vinge was tied or slightly ahead. The way the tides have turned for some riders I think only Demare and Pogacar can reach 100 at this point with Evenepoel and Vinge a possibility.

Added them in case somebody copies the list.

Of my original votes (Démare, Viviani, Pogacar, Evenepoel, Jakobsen) i will switch Jakobsen with Philipsen. Potentially, Viviani out for Kooij.
My reasoning for Viviani was that i expected him to have moved to a smaller PC team by now and start racking up wins in races you and i never heard of. Kooij's off to a nice start, but so where Ewan, Jakobsen and Groenewegen at one time. Never believed Van Aert, Van der Poel or Pedersen would come close enough given their age already. Same goes for Vingegaard.