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Riis close to Collapse after Contador 'surprise'?

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Swabian Lass

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Of course he knew. He's not stupid. He knew all along what was going on. I read it as he knew what was coming, but after months of pressure it finally got to him.
 
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This article is completely mystifying:

Riis near collapse after a spring full of bad news

Who didn't know that Contador was facing a potential suspension? Riis didn't put 1 + 1 together?

He then couldn't figure out the implications for his World Tour license?

It isn't like Riis is a newbie manager that has no idea that Tour champions dope.

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Dave.
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Riis should have called Del Moral for a little pick-me-up.
 
Benotti69

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Riis must have forgotten to get on the turbo to stop the blood thickening, dementia and taking epo obviously not a good mix.
 
DirtyWorks

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Swabian Lass said:
Of course he knew. He's not stupid. He knew all along what was going on. I read it as he knew what was coming, but after months of pressure it finally got to him.
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I agree he knew it was coming, but I think he was expecting a different outcome where Contador still rides. How? UCI somehow giving Contador a free pass. Given how much doping gets a free pass by the UCI, it doesn't seem too far fetched. For me anyway...
 
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patterson_hood

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Anyone ever read the story about Lightsquared and their attempt to use satellite bandwidth for over land broadcasting? This is basically the same...
 
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OctaBech

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Anyone ever read the story about Lightsquared and their attempt to use satellite bandwidth for over land broadcasting? This is basically the same...
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No it isn't. The case is that UCI did not tell Riis about Contador's positive test when Riis signed the contract. Riis cracked when he was informed that the UCI wanted withdraw his license on basis of Contador's missing points despite UCI knowingly had created this problem in the first place. It is no secret that Riis won this case against the UCI, as Riis did not knowingly hire a caught rider.
That Riis want Contador's future point to count is a different story and got nothing to do with the nervous breakdown.

People here are no better than people who believe in Ancient Aliens, evidence and understanding of what is going on mean nooooothing and is why these people aren't taken serious. :rolleyes:
 
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No it isn't. The case is that UCI did not tell Riis about Contador's positive test when Riis signed the contract. Riis cracked when he was informed that the UCI wanted withdraw his license on basis of Contador's missing points despite UCI knowingly had created this problem in the first place. It is no secret that Riis won this case against the UCI, as Riis did not knowingly hire a caught rider.
That Riis want Contador's future point to count is a different story and got nothing to do with the nervous breakdown.

People here are no better than people who believe in Ancient Aliens, evidence and understanding of what is going on mean nooooothing and is why these people aren't taken serious. :rolleyes:
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Your last paragraph is pretty ironic, considering that Riis signed Contador before the results of the a-sample were announced.
 
BroDeal

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I don't see what the issue is. Riis was facing multiple problems that were combining together to sink his team. Contador was the largest issue, but for the last few years it has been a struggle to get adequate sponsorship. The team has points problems because outside of Contador, Riis does not have the funds to hire riders who can consistently get points. It is likely that Specialized paid for most of Contador's salary. His team has been struggling financially. Kim Anderson and the Schlecks stabbed Riis in the back and gutted his team. The UCI not renewing the teams World Tour license is a very real possibility. If that happens it would make getting sponsors nearly impossible. Riis was watching the team he had built over a long period of time implode.
 
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Your last paragraph is pretty ironic, considering that Riis signed Contador before the results of the a-sample were announced.
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Perhaps that's why I gave Ancient Aliens a 9/10 on IMDB. :D

Anyway, to my knowledge the positive test was performed on the 26'th of July '10. I do not know if you have any source for the exact date Contador signed with Riis (I hope you'll share if you do :)) but it was only revealed on the 3'rd of August.
 
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No it isn't. The case is that UCI did not tell Riis about Contador's positive test when Riis signed the contract. Riis cracked when he was informed that the UCI wanted withdraw his license on basis of Contador's missing points despite UCI knowingly had created this problem in the first place. It is no secret that Riis won this case against the UCI, as Riis did not knowingly hire a caught rider.
That Riis want Contador's future point to count is a different story and got nothing to do with the nervous breakdown.

People here are no better than people who believe in Ancient Aliens, evidence and understanding of what is going on mean nooooothing and is why these people aren't taken serious. :rolleyes:
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So you think a positive test should have been announced, about a week before Contador signed, before his B sample had been tested (I think) and possibly ruin his career before it's even been confirmed?
 
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So you think a positive test should have been announced, about a week before Contador signed, before his B sample had been tested (I think) and possibly ruin his career before it's even been confirmed?
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I can't remember the last time I didn't heard a rider's positive A test before a B test was confirmed.
 
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So you think a positive test should have been announced, about a week before Contador signed, before his B sample had been tested (I think) and possibly ruin his career before it's even been confirmed?
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To the media? No.

But should you actually ask that question? Because it does show a lack knowledge about the practice of the doping system in the sport. Teams are given access by the UCI (and the rider) to such information when signing riders, which is why JV could claim there were no irregularities in Contador's bio-passport (not sure I'd agree with him, but Riis was trapped by hidden data). A practice that exist exactly to save teams from ending up in the situation Riis Cycling did.
 
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Kick Riis out of the sport as well. Don't think because Bruyneel is banned for life everything is alright. We still have bad apples like this to guy to boot out as well.

I would of had no sympathy had Saxo gone to the wall. Good riddance is what I would of said.
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Bruyneel isn't banned yet. He opted for arbitration. Give it a few months.
 
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I hope Riis takes it easy when he gets this news.

"Hamilton also writes that after he left the USPS team to join another squad, his team director, Bjarne Riis, introduced him to Madrid doctor Eufemiano Fuentes, who Hamilton says oversaw his blood doping for several years."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...acuses-doping-article-1.1148508#ixzz255pw23d1
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Which unfortunately brings back the Frank Schleck mystery payment and the story that floated about Canc and Riis seen meeting w him (if I remember right?). Not good - not good at all...
 
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I think unless the USADA gets to show their case in full all of this will fall on deaf ears just like the admissions of Jesus Manzano and Floyd Landis. This has all been listed out before there is nothing new other than Tyler's version. Not that its not good just that until its taken care of officially it all goes down as another story.

Sure we know its true but its not making an impact or overall change as it should. All of those in the conspiracy need to go down, yes all of them not just one. Make that line in the sand as deep as it can be so crossing it is that much harder.
 
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I think unless the USADA gets to show their case in full all of this will fall on deaf ears just like the admissions of Jesus Manzano and Floyd Landis. This has all been listed out before there is nothing new other than Tyler's version. Not that its not good just that until its taken care of officially it all goes down as another story.

Sure we know its true but its not making an impact or overall change as it should. (...)
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+1, sad but true, me thinks
 
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JPM London said:
Which unfortunately brings back the Frank Schleck mystery payment and the story that floated about Canc and Riis seen meeting w him (if I remember right?). Not good - not good at all...
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you remember right about the f schleck payment story and indeed it was a keen observation. and does anyone still remember that our poor frankie is currently front and centre of another doping case....:eek:
 
Benotti69

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The Danish Cycling Federation need to show they are tough on doping after one of their own was caught doping. Riis might just be that little piggy who gets sacrificed. I hope so.

Wonder what Oleg will say:rolleyes:
 
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JPM London said:
Which unfortunately brings back the Frank Schleck mystery payment and the story that floated about Canc and Riis seen meeting w him (if I remember right?). Not good - not good at all...
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I remember stories of Riis and Fränkie seen at the building were Fuentes had his office but nothing about Cance. Any source?
 
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