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will10 said:
To be honest I am hoping Ryo is right and Rujano will take it to Elberto. He can't win overall but it'd be great to see someone kick Contadors *** on even one stage :)
It would be pretty awesome if Contador, stuck in "Ima show them" mode, blew himself up trying to follow Rujano, allowing people closer to him in the GC to pull something fun.
 
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hrotha said:
It would be pretty awesome if Contador, stuck in "Ima show them" mode, blew himself up trying to follow Rujano, allowing people closer to him in the GC to pull something fun.

that's what I;m hoping too because contador isn;t known to losing abnd already he seems to hate rujano. this will be fun
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
that's what I;m hoping too because contador isn;t known to losing abnd already he seems to hate rujano. this will be fun

ryo

I (and lots of posters) don't respect\take you serious mainly because of your non-justified fanboyism. however, that 8W\kg stuff is just hilarious. I mean, if you are not a 5year old kid, what are you smoking man?

BTW, Contador is known for pulling 8'1W\Kg so rujano has no chance.
 
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c&cfan said:
but sucking wheels?c'mon..

He's not idiot to put himself in the strong head wind... also He had no chance to win the sprint against Alberto...

roundabout said:
Btw, is Rujano really that good on steeper climbs?

Just wait till the Zoncolan! :cool:

Ryo Hazuki said:
oh yes and it is perfectly normal. the guy is 48 kg and kicks around 8 watt per kg weight. gravity tells you he will be unmatched in the real steep mountains. he is notorious in south america for many things but a true testimony to how strong he is in steep climbs are his incredible mountain itt's.

His anaerobical skills are just amazing... and his diesel is working perfectly as we saw today...
HEY! Ryo! and the most important! HE IS MOTIVATED!
 
hrotha said:
It would be pretty awesome if Contador, stuck in "Ima show them" mode, blew himself up trying to follow Rujano, allowing people closer to him in the GC to pull something fun.

He's won 5 GTs. As much as you folks want it to happen, unless or until Rujano becomes a threat to AC's lead AC won't pay his attacks any mind. He's racing for the overall victory, not to prove he is a better climber than Rujano. :rolleyes:
 
About Rujano reaching the Vuelta a Colombia form I am not sure. If he does, Rujano would be very tough to beat in the mountains (without including Contador) as Ryo has said before. Having said that, I don't believe he has that form. I still think that he is a little far from it. I really haven't seen very much from him before the Giro. Just sparks here and there.

But it would be nice to play the Rujano card on Contador in this Giro. It would be nice to distract him like Pantani did with Armstrong in the Tour 2000. I am just not sure if Contador would take him seriously.
 
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come on dont be the ultimate fanboy. As much as I would like to see Rujano be number 1 , just because I am Venezuelan, I know it is impossible. Best he will do is KOM. Yes he is really good on mountains but he doesnt beat AC. I saw him this year go up mountain in mtb race and he is awesome.
And about PED use ,Venezuelan cyclists dope. I m not saying Rujano does. But I know some ex profi cyclists, and I know all about it. Maybe not as Euro rides, but they have their good share of Testo and other hormones even EPO
 
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Ryaguas said:
He's not idiot to put himself in the strong head wind... also He had no chance to win the sprint against Alberto...



Just wait till the Zoncolan! :cool:



His anaerobical skills are just amazing... and his diesel is working perfectly as we saw today...
HEY! Ryo! and the most important! HE IS MOTIVATED!

exactly! I was afraid after sterrato stage he would lose his motivation but he didn't :)
 
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jaylew said:
Where are you getting that Contador seems to hate Rujano?

A real shame he lost those 5 minutes.

todays stage. he was physically annoyed when rujano wouldn't want to take over and just kept attacking him after that
 
Being annoyed is far away from hatred. I have said many times here I don't like Contador, but I don't recall ever seeing any signs of him that he's a spiteful or mean person; quite the contrary in fact.

Of course he wanted Rujano to go into the wind - duh, but that doesn't mean he was angry with him for not doing it. And in the end it didn't matter anyway.
 
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hrotha said:
It would be pretty awesome if Contador, stuck in "Ima show them" mode, blew himself up trying to follow Rujano, allowing people closer to him in the GC to pull something fun.

I dont think he will. Cos he got over 5 mins on Rujano and knows he will take a handfull of minutes on the final flat TT he wont be covering Rujano as he was coverering Andy in last year's Tour. Also at some point he will start to think about conserving a little energy as he also needs to be able to do the Tour.

However, the other favorites need to worry a bit more about Rujano if he can keep up his good form. Also I dont think Rujano would be able to blow Contador up anyhow, but he could blow up the likes of Scarponi and Nibali.

Ryo Hazuki said:
todays stage. he was physically annoyed when rujano wouldn't want to take over and just kept attacking him after that

That happens in a lot of breakaways, but that doesnt mean that half of the peloton hate eachother
 
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hate is a hyperbole in this. of course they don't hate each other almost no one does but he was more than average annoyed by rujano sitting in his wheel. will be fun to watch next week because androni have way stronger team than saxo even with the loss of jackson :(
 
Honestly, where's this gifting nonsense coming from? If it's day 18 and Contador already has 10 minutes on everyone else, maybe. But on the Etna and with a chance to take pink, with time bonuses on the line, why the hell should Contador "gift" the stage win to a guy he doesn't seem to know very well, and who's possible contender (even if he's a longshot) on top of that no less?
 
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Cause it's Contador and he does this all the time. He was going to gift stage 14 of VaE 2008 to Valverde for example, but he cracked. Then Contador decided to be a ****** against Mosquera :p
 
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also contador absolutely great and respect for his attack but after that he triest to drop rujano twice and when he sees he can't drop him gets frustrated and asks him to take over and rujano refuses and he gets angry from it. what do you expect?! when your opponent is trying to drop you then of course you aren;'t going to assist him in taking over so he can jump away from behind your back. contador shouldn't be such a crybaby
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
also contador absolutely great and respect for his attack but after that he triest to drop rujano twice and when he sees he can't drop him gets frustrated and asks him to take over and rujano refuses and he gets angry from it. what do you expect?! when your opponent is trying to drop you then of course you aren;'t going to assist him in taking over so he can jump away from behind your back. contador shouldn't be such a crybaby

He wasn't angry, he didn't look back after he asked that. Think Contador took a good look at his face and saw he was at his limit.

How is Contador a crybaby? He attacked from 7km out, caught Rujano easily, dropped Scarponi, asked Rujano once to work together on a not so steep part, saw his face and dropped him in the last 2km.

It's how Contador always climbs when in top shape. Accelerate fast to drop everyone to open op a big gap quickly and then climbs at more or less the same pace as his chasers. It's what makes him so good on the steep parts. Once you open up a small gap there, it's usually game over.

But Contador definitely would have gifted the stage away if Rujano worked together or did all the work. They could have taken more time then so 8 bonus seconds don't matter.

But the thing is, Rujano couldn't.
 
El Pistolero said:
Cause it's Contador and he does this all the time. He was going to gift stage 14 of VaE 2008 to Valverde for example, but he cracked. Then Contador decided to be a ****** against Mosquera :p

Please list exactly. I still don't think he gifted the Tourmalet stage to Andy btw. Imo gifting stages is absurd and not even very respectful except in very specific circumstances, like when you do it to a teammate, or maybe to someone who has no ambitions for the GC and helped you gain more time.

It's pure speculation, but it's restday so whatever, but I strongly don't think Contador would have "gifted" the stage to Rujano regardless of what he could've done and I think he should not have.
 
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spalco said:
Please list exactly. I still don't think he gifted the Tourmalet stage to Andy btw. Imo gifting stages is absurd and not even very respectful except in very specific circumstances, like when you do it to a teammate, or maybe to someone who has no ambitions for the GC and helped you gain more time.

It's pure speculation, but it's restday so whatever, but I strongly don't think Contador would have "gifted" the stage to Rujano regardless of what he could've done and I think he should not have.

Imo he clearly giften the Tourmalet stage to Andy, but I totally agree that he wouldnt have giftet Etna to Rujano, even if the latter had shared the work. Bertie simply wanted to win yesterday.