Saturday, June 30 - Tour de France, Prologue: Liege - Liege, 6,4 km

[on3m@n@rmy]

When did Big George win a stage?

2005 Tour, STAGE 15 – Sun, July 17: Lézat-sur-Lèze to Pla d'Adet:

 

[Morbius]

If we include Discovery then Popovich and Contador as well

 

[will10]

2005 Tour, STAGE 15 – Sun, July 17: Lézat-sur-Lèze to Pla d'Adet:

That made for truely hilarious viewing. Check out the Tour winner in the background

If we include Discovery then Popovich and Contador as well

That's not Lance years. Only in 2005 did anyone on that team have any freedom at all. Even Pena's yellow jersey was purely accidental.

 

[Trunnions]

When did Big George win a stage? I thought the whole Garmin / HTC / Cavendish mess was about him finally trying to win one

No, Hincapie blamed his former team-mates for stopping him being in Yellow.

 

[The Hitch]

Jens_attacks why do you talk about riders like Wiggins and Rogers? They are not of the kind you normally like, are they?

jens is when it comes to it, a fan of total domination, at all costs.

Its easy to see the appeal of Sky to someone who loved the US Postal years.

 

[ElChingon]

How exactly do you make the other team work by pulling back breakaways yourself?

Well you don't, hence your teammate in the break! That's how your team gets out of it, just need some rebel rouser to shake it up and get them moving. Its in the murky middle where you get things to happen, pulling strings so to speak.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

That made for truely hilarious viewing. Check out the Tour winner in the background

Well, not so humorous for Oscar Pereiro, the eventual 2006 Tour winner.

Floyd

 

[Ferminal]

When did Big George win a stage? I thought the whole Garmin / HTC / Cavendish mess was about him finally trying to win one

EDIT twice
Hincapie and Salvodelii won in 2005
also
Popovich in 2006 and Contador, Leipheimer in 2007

In the TT.

 

[robert_c]

No love for Dave Z?

 

[Trunnions]

No love for Dave Z?

He's been in good form all year, even held the Yellow Jersey for much of the Langkawi Tour this year!

He won't be far off, but he's not in the class of the big three or four is he?

Just hope he leaves those awful stars and stripes OTT TT bikes at home.

 

[Bavarianrider]

24°C and sunshine predicted. This should be good, no rain to spoil te party.

 

[BillytheKid]

He's been in good form all year, even held the Yellow Jersey for much of the Langkawi Tour this year!

He won't be far off, but he's not in the class of the big three or four is he?

Just hope he leaves those awful stars and stripes OTT TT bikes at home.

Dave Z is the only one that can get away with it. It's better that the pajama kit that will be worn at the Olympics.

Cancellara, Sagan, Martin, but in what order?

 

[BillytheKid]

Well, not so humorous for Oscar Pereiro, the eventual 2006 Tour winner.

Floyd

Pereiro won the next's day's stage if you remember, after being off the front all day on this stage.

 

[will10]

Pereiro won the next's day's stage if you remember, after being off the front all day on this stage.

Where Cadel Evans bridged across to the break on the Aubisque, the only attack of his career before Worlds 2009

 

[theyoungest]

24°C and sunshine predicted. This should be good, no rain to spoil te party.

You mean Tony Martin usually sucks in the rain

 

[Trunnions]

Dave Z is the only one that can get away with it.

Oh he doesn't get away with it.

It's better that the pajama kit that will be worn at the Olympics.

Isn't jingoism nauseating? Thankfully I won't see any of it.

Cancellara, Sagan, Martin, but in what order?

This one: Wiggins, Martin, Cancellara, Evans

 

[Bavarianrider]

You mean Tony Martin usually sucks in the rain

Not usually, he sucks always in the rain

 

[DominicDecoco]

Just wait. Lulu will surprise you all and take 3 or 4 minutes on Martin or Fabi.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Just wait. Lulu will surprise you all and take 3 or 4 minutes on Martin or Fabi.

You're living in cloud Lulu land.

 

[Arnout]

He likes almost any rider

That's what true cycling fan should do in my view

Ahh, and Jens is the guy that invented first time - UK Postal while in Algarve

i like them as a team.cycling needs stronger and stronger teams.if you have a 20 million budget than there's no excuse to not do what they did on joux-plane and everything this year.i just like their mentality especially bradley's

plus i came up with the uk postal thing so i hope they won't let me down

and yes there aren't more than one dozen riders i don't like.

I also like a lot of riders but I'm seriously bored with the defensive/TT specialist type

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

I don't gamble, but a free money alert for anyone who does.

Some tool is currently offering £23 to anyone willing to lay Schleck at 1000-1

In the stage 1 market, there is £37 available for anyone willing to lay Liquigas (i.e. Sagan) at tighter than 2-1.

In this market the favourite should be longer than 2-1, and Sagan is certainly not the favourite.

Someone also asking for £7 to be layed on evans at 3.4 decimal odds, another horrific miss pricing.

 

[phanatic]

I also like a lot of riders but I'm seriously bored with the defensive/TT specialist type

I think the better climbers benefit from a worthwhile benchmark, as provided by riders from Wiggins to Evans to Jan (and Levi too): you get to see not just the best climber, but which talent makes the greater difference. You can think of the great showdown between Andy and Menchov in 2010, or Levi and the Little Prince in 2011 or ? and Wiggins this year.

 

[Arnout]

I think the better climbers benefit from a worthwhile benchmark, as provided by riders from Wiggins to Evans to Jan (and Levi too): you get to see not just the best climber, but which talent makes the greater difference. You can think of the great showdown between Andy and Menchov in 2010, or Levi and the Little Prince in 2011 or ? and Wiggins this year.

I don't mind TT guys battling for the win, I don't mind TTs in the Tour (although I've trouble staying awake watching them), I just don't like the general characteristics of these riders: limit damage in the mountains, win in the time trial. I like exciting attacks more.

I do appreciate they're there though, as long as it doesn't hurt the race.

 

[TechnicalDescent]

Wow, just a couple of days to go now. Where did all the time go? Must be a frustrating time for riders who suspect they're not on top form - can't do anything about it now. Just have to wait and hope for the best. I think Fab will know he is still a couple of percent off.

 

[ElChingon]

I don't gamble, but a free money alert for anyone who does.

An avatar bet should be up your alley so to speak then?