Schleck is the real winner!!!

[Gcraenen]

I see some serious cycling affecionados here. I just started a new thread called "supertour". I would be interested in your opinions.

 

[sienna]

Rubbish thread. Contador thoroughly deserves yellow in Paris.

 

[53 x 11]

Actually a lot of European brand bikes are made at the Giant factory, including Colnago. Not the very top models but a lot of the mid range stuff. If you visit the Giant factory there are containers stacked in the yard with various brand names on them.

TBH this should not be news to anyone.

With colnago, the top models may have bits made in Italia but the tubes, and other frame materials will still come from the east. Often Euro bikes are just painted in Europe.

 

[hector5950]

Now I'm team Schleck.

Let me guess, you're a "Team Edward" kinda guy too, aren't you?

 

[joy118118]

MERIDA has 49% stocks of Specialized. Specialized and Giant both have factories in Taiwan and China mainland. The Giant sponsoring Rabobank is the Giant Europe. Just like the HTC sponsoring HTC-Columbia and the Garmin sponsoring Garmin are HTC USA and Garmin USA.

the companies in Taiwan are not too concerned on Europe cycling races.

 

[ironhead]

Andy Schleck is going to give AC a hard time for many years. Contador deserves yellow for 2010 but Andy is learning fast. Next year will be utterly fantastic.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

If you want a real carbon bike made in Europe, your choices are Time, Cyfac, Look (though I think their factory is in Tunisia), and maybe one or two others.

Time is pretty much top dog when it comes to carbon fiber frames, I'd say.

 

[scribe]

Which PT is on TIME this year?

 

[53 x 11]

If you want a real carbon bike made in Europe, your choices are Time, Cyfac, Look (though I think their factory is in Tunisia), and maybe one or two others.

Time is pretty much top dog when it comes to carbon fiber frames, I'd say.

Agree, partially.

Time is or was the only company that made their own fiber cloth. Others buy, or their manufacturers buy, their carbon from one of a few carbon manufacturers Toray, Mitsubishi Rayon ect.

However, Carbon manufacture is a process which quality is usually improved as production volume increases. For this reason the quality of Eastern frames is often far superior to Euro carbon frames.

 

[53 x 11]

Which PT is on TIME this year?

Lower volumes = less profit = less money to pay teams to ride your product.

Doesn't matter. Unlike Specialized bikes Time's sell themselves.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Agree, partially.

Time is or was the only company that made their own fiber cloth. Others buy, or their manufacturers buy, their carbon from one of a few carbon manufacturers Toray, Mitsubishi Rayon ect.

However, Carbon manufacture is a process which quality is usually improved as production volume increases. For this reason the quality of Eastern frames is often far superior to Euro carbon frames.

Yep, Time still does weave their own carbon.

Agree on that last part too. Frankly, I'd have more faith in a frame made by Martec than a frame made by some small firm in Europe.

 

[M Sport]

Andy Schleck is going to give AC a hard time for many years. Contador deserves yellow for 2010 but Andy is learning fast. Next year will be utterly fantastic.

Yeah, good call.

I prefer not to dwell on things like Stage 2 and 3 and chaingate, it's swings and roundabouts and like Sastre said, it's supposed to be racing.

Both riders had a great tour and I really think Contador raced as conservatively as I've ever seen him race. He did what he needed to win, and no more.

Next year may be a different result and we the fans will be the benefactors.

 

[Jeanne]

Isn`t anyone starting to feel a bit sorry for AC? No one seems to be really happy for that guy! I mean.. He won the race despite being sick and sorta "out of form"! He`s for sure not Mr. charming, and what he did on stage 15 (no more discussion needed!) was not super fair - but if AS had been so much stronger and better and is the real winner for whatever reason, why didn`t he manage to gain back enough time on AC and REALLY win the tour?

 

[ScottMasil]

Very hollow victory - getting stuck behind "trouble" on the cobblestones is poor tactics - attacking a mechanical in alps is just plain poor sportsmanship.

AC has totally lost my respect - very unimpressive - go Andy !!!

 

[oncehadhair]

I'm stoked to see Menchov ride strongly all race and finish with a great time trial.
I'm looking forward to seeing Contador and Schleck slug it out in future grand tours.
I'm disappointed in Evans, Rogers and McEwen and feeling bit sorry for them too because of the impact falls might have had on their performance but I'm pleased they stuck with it.
I am annoyed because Renshaw was put out of the race for a bit of argy bargy in the sprint while two riders who slugged it out in the finishing shute were given a slap on the wrist.
But feeling sorry for Contador? Got to be joking. He's consolidating his place as a real champion and he won a race he deserved to win because he was the best.

 

[M Sport]

Isn`t anyone starting to feel a bit sorry for AC?

The only ones I feel sorry for are us Senior Members that have to read the drivel of you posters that sign up during July.

 

[bobbins]

Very hollow victory - getting stuck behind "trouble" on the cobblestones is poor tactics - attacking a mechanical in alps is just plain poor sportsmanship.

AC has totally lost my respect - very unimpressive - go Andy !!!

This is exactly right, I am also unable to give Hushovd any respect for he sprinted on Stage 1 when Cavendish had fallen and on the cobble stage when many others has crashes and mechanicals. He is the most un-sporting rider in the peloton and should be banned immediately from the pro tour.

 

[Jeanne]

The only ones I feel sorry for are us Senior Members that have to read the drivel of you posters that sign up during July.

... posters signing up during July, just like you, congratulations! *offtopic*

 

[nicholaaaas]

Yawn, get a life dude.

wow you're cool buddy

 

[craig1985]

TBH this should not be news to anyone.

With colnago, the top models may have bits made in Italia but the tubes, and other frame materials will still come from the east. Often Euro bikes are just painted in Europe.

I had a two pairs of Bontrager Wheels and the spokes and the rum were made in China (or Taiwan) and then shipped to America and then assembled and then have the 'Made in USA' stamp on them.

 

[salixcycling]

The only ones I feel sorry for are us Senior Members that have to read the drivel of you posters that sign up during July.

Careful there - Senior Members can post drivel too. Have you had a look at this active thread?

(Clearly Schleck is the real winner of the White jersey and Contador is the real winner of the Yellow jersey. This is fact; everything else is conjecture.)

 

[scribe]

Isn`t anyone starting to feel a bit sorry for AC? No one seems to be really happy for that guy! I mean.. He won the race despite being sick and sorta "out of form"! He`s for sure not Mr. charming, and what he did on stage 15 (no more discussion needed!) was not super fair - but if AS had been so much stronger and better and is the real winner for whatever reason, why didn`t he manage to gain back enough time on AC and REALLY win the tour?

oh yeah. I feel sorry for contador

 

[TimChristy]

Let me guess, you're a "Team Edward" kinda guy too, aren't you?

Haaa very funny - Actually Im a girl..Christy... my boyfriend is Tim. He hates Twilight... and yes Im totally Team Edward.

 

[TimChristy]

Very hollow victory - getting stuck behind "trouble" on the cobblestones is poor tactics - attacking a mechanical in alps is just plain poor sportsmanship.

AC has totally lost my respect - very unimpressive - go Andy !!!

The look of shame on his face when he accepted that trophy was priceless. He knows damn well if it wasn't for that chain accident, he'd be in the dust. Next Year Andy will win and AC will go home riding a Diamondback....

 

[TimChristy]

oh yeah. I feel sorry for contador

oh yeah, me too..vomit.