Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[airstream]

"Compared with 2011, we anticipate more stages where I MUST try something"

big difference,he will have to.

it would sound decadent and pessimistically. by most of estimations, he s the second favourite and just pretends to the brave. absolutely innocuous statement

 

[ferryman]

No doubt someone will find something wrong with it. deeming it arrogant or something.

Heh heh. I'm liking the support. Maybe, just maybe, one day there will be a Schleck Appreciation thread

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

it would sound decadent and pessimistically. by most of estimations, he s the second favourite and just pretends to the brave. absolutely innocuous statement

I'm sure Bruyneel has convinced him that he can win on this course. And he can.

Why did you vote for Andy in the other thread if you don't think he can win?

 

[airstream]

I'm sure Bruyneel has convinced him that he can win on this course. And he can.

Why did you vote for Andy in the other thread if you don't think he can win?

it was kind of wishful thinking. the result depends on evans rather than andy. this time they wont let him get away early- lesson learned. but ...evans can help out theoretically.the main thing for bruyneel is to persuade andy that frank's mission is accomplished regarding the tour gc, cos as i see frank doesnt mind fighting for the podium himself, lol

 

[DominicDecoco]

I like the fact that one or two actually thought he was stealing a bottle

 

[DominicDecoco]

"If Bruyneel helps me progress a little against the clock and some also in the mountains, then I'll be better."

Well, but that's not how it works really, is it.. You can't do both. He obviously needs more power in the TT's which he could get by eating a few crisps.. but that'll do him justice in the mountains..

There's no way of improving technique on that paper-thin body of his.

 

[Richeypen]

"If Bruyneel helps me progress a little against the clock and some also in the mountains, then I'll be better."

Well, but that's not how it works really, is it.. You can't do both.

Bruyneel definitely can do both. To go into any more detail though it would have to be in the clinic

 

[woodenswan]

I like the fact that one or two actually thought he was stealing a bottle

more astonishing though is the fact that one or two actually thought that there were members here who actually thought he was stealing a bottle

oh the time i spend trying to work out airstream's posts.. in vain though (no offence meant)

 

[DominicDecoco]

As if. Surely one or two of them were without irony.

 

[DominicDecoco]

more astonishing though is the fact that one or two actually thought that there were members here who actually thought he was stealing a bottle

As if.

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[Beech Mtn]

Andy whines to Reuters about chaingate. Again.

Schleck added he was still bitter with the way Contador acted during the 2010 Tour. The Spaniard beat him after attacking him in the ascent to the Port de Bales when Schleck's chain had snapped.

"We are not friends, we just say 'hi', talk a bit. That's all. What he did on the Port de Bales, I will never forget it. It cost me the Tour," he said.

"Great champions have to show fair play. He did not. He had the right to do it but it's something you just don't do."

Andy is just a bitter hater.

Andy also believes he would have won the 2011 TdF if Contador had not been there. . . .

 

[The Hitch]

Andy also believes he would have won the 2011 TdF if Contador had not been there. . . .

I agree with that much.

 

[hfer07]

"Great champions have to show fair play. He did not. He had the right to do it but it's something you just don't do."

Great Champions support their words with titles........ Tha's why you ain't in that category at all

Andy is without a doubt the rider you love to hate!!!

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Andy also believes he would have won the 2011 TdF if Contador had not been there. . . .

Right. And he would have won in 2009 and 2010 had AC not been there as well. Oh wait, he did "win" in 2010, my mistake.

 

[Unkown]

Its hard to support Andy, every time you think he has learned to keep his mouth shut it opens again to say something worse than before. Andy needs to win something outside the Ardennes and le Tour, and its not like that is going to change with the Hog in charge.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Andy says a lot, but doesn't do much.

He did 1 heroic effort in the Tour 2011, I wish he showed that side more often. I even started out as somewhat of a fan after his Giro 2007 performance... oh well.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I do not hate him but he should stfu already.

 

[The Plediadian]

Andy whines to Reuters about chaingate. Again.



Andy is just a bitter hater.

Andy also believes he would have won the 2011 TdF if Contador had not been there. . . .

Contadors' presence in the 2011 tour was a disgrace to the sport of cycling. Contadors' riding the 2011 tour did skew the results of the race. He added (Contador) nothing and took away much, the definition of a douce, el Pistelero.
Andy may be right, without fighting against the cheat Contador, he may have won the race, or perhaps another rider other than Cadel could have won it. We will never know, thanks for nothing Contador.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Contadors' presence in the 2011 tour was a disgrace to the sport of cycling. Contadors' riding the 2011 tour did skew the results of the race. He added (Contador) nothing and took away much, the definition of a douce, el Pistelero.
Andy may be right, without fighting against the cheat Contador, he may have won the race, or perhaps another rider other than Cadel could have won it. We will never know, thanks for nothing Contador.

lol atleast you are consistent.

 

[movingtarget]

I agree with that much.

You really think Schleck would have won in 2011 if Contador was not there ? Based on what ? He still may have lost time in Gap trying to follow Sanchez and Evans. He still would have lost time in the TT and he had trouble losing Evans in the mountains except for Galibier. Having Contador in the race definitely effected the pattern of racing but I still have my doubts that Schleck would have won.

 

[El Oso]

You really think Schleck would have won in 2011 if Contador was not there ? Based on what ? He still may have lost time in Gap trying to follow Sanchez and Evans. He still would have lost time in the TT and he had trouble losing Evans in the mountains except for Galibier. Having Contador in the race definitely effected the pattern of racing but I still have my doubts that Schleck would have won.

Schleckettes were too busy marking an off-form Contador in the Pyrennes. They seemed overly concerned about an attack from Contador instead of focusing on attacking themselves. It wasn't until Stage 18 (Galibier) that they seemed to realize there challenge would be from Evans and they needed to gain time in the mountains.

Arguably, if Contador isn't there, then (a) they aren't wasting time marking an off-form rider, and (b) they put more focus on putting time into Evans in the Pyrenees.

 

[Parrulo]

You really think Schleck would have won in 2011 if Contador was not there ? Based on what ? He still may have lost time in Gap trying to follow Sanchez and Evans. He still would have lost time in the TT and he had trouble losing Evans in the mountains except for Galibier. Having Contador in the race definitely effected the pattern of racing but I still have my doubts that Schleck would have won.

ya because the legendarily always aggressive rider that is cadel evans would have attacked into gap and pinerollo . . . who are we kidding here? how many proper attacks did evans made this year? he deserved the win and he surely didn't wheelsuck but he only responded to race situations created by other riders and not himself.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

In other words, he rode with a strategy to win, and was successful at it.

Still waiting for Andy to do the same.

 

[hfer07]

Contadors' presence in the 2011 tour was a disgrace to the sport of cycling. Contadors' riding the 2011 tour did skew the results of the race. He added (Contador) nothing and took away much, the definition of a douce, el Pistelero.
Andy may be right, without fighting against the cheat Contador, he may have won the race, or perhaps another rider other than Cadel could have won it. We will never know, thanks for nothing Contador.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Contadors' presence in the 2011 tour was a disgrace to the sport of cycling. Contadors' riding the 2011 tour did skew the results of the race. He added (Contador) nothing and took away much, the definition of a douce, el Pistelero.
Andy may be right, without fighting against the cheat Contador, he may have won the race, or perhaps another rider other than Cadel could have won it. We will never know, thanks for nothing Contador.

Blame Prudhomme for that, not Contador.

Prudhomme told Caisse d'Epargne in 2009 that he would exclude them if they put Valverde on their team. Hey presto, no Valverde at the Tour.

He had set a precedent for people riding whilst under duress. But he didn't put the same pressure on Riis and Saxo not to bring Alberto. So why shouldn't they include him, given that he was their best (only) chance of success?

Contador also added much to that race. When he was off form, the riders went around in a friendly little bunch like we've come to expect from the Tour. OK, the parcours in the first two weeks was pathetic, but that's by the by. They all had a little hand-holding session in the Pyrénées. And when we got attacks on the intermediate transitional stages? Contador leading the charge. It was that which meant Andy realised he had to go on his epic mountain raid, otherwise he'd have ridden tempo with everybody up the Galibier and banked it all on Alpe d'Huez. And then it was Contador that turned a 110km stage into an exciting one by starting to attack 90km from home.

Without Contador, everybody rides as a group until Alpe d'Huez, then Schleck attacks at the base à la Sastre, and it comes down to STAGE 19 before anything interesting happens GC-wise.