Schlecks Rating of tour rivals

[ingsve]

I can't believe they didn't mention Mollema.

Assholes.

Forget about Mollema. I can't believe they didn't mentioned the next GT superstar Edvald Boasson Hagen.

 

[hrotha]

Actually i do care.

TO rate JVDV above Samu Sanchez is an insult equal to or worse than the stupid statement about Carlos Sastre. It would have been more polite engage in a tirade of insults against his family, call his mother a **** and say that he thinks his grandma can climb faster than Sanchez on the Tourmalet, than to rate VDB above the Asturian.

Unfortunately, I'm a Van den Broeck fan. Pistols at dawn.

 

[The Hitch]

Unfortunately, I'm a Van den Broeck fan. Pistols at dawn.

And im a Dmitri Champion fan. Doesnt mean im going to go round saying hes a better contender for the Tour than Andy Schleck

 

[Arnout]

I hope Schleck falls again during the first week of the only race he cares riding, and this time without a cowardish peloton that is more concerned about image than winning.

Really, this guy is worse than Armstrong, way worse.

 

[Christian]

Did you even read this thread.

I came about this far, a masterpiece in eloquency, diplomacy, and not to mention modesty:

Wow, Andy is full of **** and apparently knows nothing about cycling.

no-one cares who the Schlecks do or do not name as Tour favourites.

lol a 6 page (and counting) thread begs to differ

And im a Dmitri Champion fan. Doesnt mean im going to go round saying hes a better contender for the Tour than Andy Schleck

Wow, you are full of **** and apparently know nothing about cycling.

I think this would be a fun catch phrase.

 

[Boeing]

What a Narcissist this Andy has become. He sounds like Tiger Woods. every subject is a personal pronoun. just dogmatic statements supported by his opinion

 

[theyoungest]

lol a 6 page (and counting) thread begs to differ

So you really can't read. Hint: what might the Schlecks have said about a certain ex-colleague that may be interpreted by the visitors of this forum as being slightly derogatory? Everything else in this thread is just fun and jokes.

 

[hrotha]

I came about this far, a masterpiece in eloquency, diplomacy, and not to mention modesty

Thank you, I thought it was a fairly inspired and succinct way to put it myself. Care to explain why I was wrong? Obviously, if you take a look at Sastre's TdF achievements (which are much better than Andy's so far, and compared to which Fränk's are embarrassing) you'll realize Andy is utterly wrong when he calls his 2008 victory a "fluke" and claims he's never got close to the podium aside from that one year.

 

[Christian]

what might the Schlecks have said about a certain ex-colleague that may be interpreted by the visitors of this forum as being slightly derogatory?

What might a certain ex-colleague have said about them which no one seems to remember? I completely agree that they should have kept it out of the press, but they weren't the ones who brought it into the press to begin with. Sastre isn't the inncoent victim in this story, but no one calls his comments "derogatory"

Everything else in this thread is just fun and jokes.

I only found one mentioning of Mollema, so that hardly qualifies as "everything else". No, seriously though - if you leave out the fun and jokes there's still a lot of serious discussion IMO. And then there is the fact that top cycling sites publish the story and everyone reads it. So somewhere down the line I think there must be someone who does care about how they rate whomever.

 

[Beech Mtn]

They didn't mention Wigans.
Perhaps Nygaard forgot to give them the Team Sky PR materials on the Britain's GT winner.

 

[El Pistolero]

And im a Dmitri Champion fan. Doesnt mean im going to go round saying hes a better contender for the Tour than Andy Schleck

There's a four year age difference between them though. Samu of four years ago wasn't as good as Jurgen is now imo(at GTs)

Samu clearly has gotten better when getting older.

 

[Christian]

Thank you, I thought it was a fairly inspired and succinct way to put it myself. Care to explain why I was wrong? Obviously, if you take a look at Sastre's TdF achievements (which are much better than Andy's so far, and compared to which Fränk's are embarrassing) you'll realize Andy is utterly wrong when he calls his 2008 victory a "fluke" and claims he's never got close to the podium aside from that one year.

He was on the podium once (I know, hang on) and was close once. Everything else was far off.

He did great when he won (second podium of course), but I think that it is indeed fair to say that it was an odd year (absence of Contador and Rasmussen for example) and that he had the strongest team (not only the Schlecks but also the others). I don't think anyone wants to diminish his achievements but at the same time it is fair to mention that it was an odd year, and that he will most likely never be able to perform on that level again.

As Lance would put it: "I have nothing against Christian Vande Velde. But 5th in the Tour? Come on."

 

[peloton]

What might a certain ex-colleague have said about them which no one seems to remember? I completely agree that they should have kept it out of the press, but they weren't the ones who brought it into the press to begin with. Sastre isn't the inncoent victim in this story, but no one calls his comments "derogatory".

You can't be serious? This happened almost 3 years ago, Sastre's comments were at the time more pointed towards Riis, who sacrificed him for the bro's.
The name team Judas is well deserved, even more after reading the article.

 

[ak-zaaf]

He was on the podium once (I know, hang on) and was close once. Everything else was far off.

He did great when he won (second podium of course), but I think that it is indeed fair to say that it was an odd year (absence of Contador and Rasmussen for example) and that he had the strongest team (not only the Schlecks but also the others). I don't think anyone wants to diminish his achievements but at the same time it is fair to mention that it was an odd year, and that he will most likely never be able to perform on that level again.

As Lance would put it: "I have nothing against Christian Vande Velde. But 5th in the Tour? Come on."

Sastre's win was, in the end, a once in a lifetime opportunity. But he took it.
Little Andy already had 2 chances. In 2008 he failed in the Pyrenees, last edition he failed to take down a vulnerable Contador. (Since Contador is normally the far better rider)

As Lance would put it: Win a GT before you start talking shit about actual GT winners.

 

[Anonymous]

+1.

But what makes me most depressed is that Fat Pat has clearly hitched his wagon to Schlecklet, which means he's pretty much untouchable.

I never thought Id say this, But i hope Contador rides the tour, and I hope that he and Riis rub the schlecks pretty little fashionable noses in it and AC gets another tour.

I have never been a big fan of Riiss or Contador, but the way the schlecks behaved last year at Saxo was disgraceful, and AC as far as Im concerned is being made a scapegoat for doing just what the schlecks are doing anyway. And the fact Pat has as RR Put it, hitched his wagon to team leopard makes me even more sick.

i have no interest in what either of those numpties has to say, and I honestly hope the tour turns into a spectactular disaster for both of them.

 

[euanli]

aye. park me there too

 

[auscyclefan94]

I can't believe they didn't mention Mollema.

Assholes.

His name shall not be spoken of! It is TGBM!

 

[veganrob]

Lol I'm fairly amused by the short term memory of some people here on the forum.

When Andy was nice to Contador ---> what a d-bag, Cipo is right, he has a vagina, he should talk more trash and be more agressive

When Andy talks trash ---> what a moron, he should show some modesty and respect, hope he gets destroyed by Contador in every race

The hypocrisy level is ridiculous.

He is the logical favourite for the Tour, he got asked who he thinks his main rivals will be, he answered the question. Just because he left your favourite rider(s) out doesn't mean he knows nothing about cycling. It was just his opinion. If you don't like it, take a crash-course with Cipo.

Why didn't they mention Contador: If he can race it goes without saying that he is the main favourite
" " " " Menchov: It's not looking so good for Geox

I can't agree with you here at all. If Andy wants to be a big boy with balls, start talking smack about AC. He is the guy Andy will never beat in a race.

 

[NickBVK]

So if Andy were to win the Tour, based on his quotes, it would be all of his own doing and he could do it without the other 8 guys on his team

 

[luckyboy]

He did great when he won (second podium of course), but I think that it is indeed fair to say that it was an odd year (absence of Contador and Rasmussen for example) and that he had the strongest team (not only the Schlecks but also the others).

Sounds like Leopard 2011. No Contador, maybe no Menchov + Sastre. Strongest team.

I didn't like the schlecks... but after this article (unless these turn out to be misquotes) I really really dislike them.

Completely disgraceful comments in my opinion. Whom do they think they are...
The sastre comments were very immature and demonstrates their delusion.

I never thought Id say this, But i hope Contador rides the tour, and I hope that he and Riis rub the schlecks pretty little fashionable noses in it and AC gets another tour.

Came to say both of these things.

 

[paxman]

Post a link to the article?

 

[Boeing]

ok so he is a Connard. But in the end did he say anything we didn't know already. I mean really?

 

[Christian]

Sastre's win was, in the end, a once in a lifetime opportunity. But he took it.
Little Andy already had 2 chances. In 2008 he failed in the Pyrenees, last edition he failed to take down a vulnerable Contador. (Since Contador is normally the far better rider)

Again as I said no one wants to diminish Sastre's achievements, he was able to seize the opportunity.

As for Andy's 2 chances, they hardly qualify as once in a lifetime opportunities. I should remind you that 2009 was only his 2nd Tour, and his 3rd GT altogether. For that standard, 2nd is pretty damn well if you ask me. Sastre had already finished 16 GT's by the time he won in 2008. If you look at it that way, Andy has finished 4 GT's and been on the podium 3 times. Sastre has been on the podium 5/23.

I can't agree with you here at all. If Andy wants to be a big boy with balls, start talking smack about AC. He is the guy Andy will never beat in a race.

Lol so it is already good he is talking smack, but it's not about the right person yet? Hopefully next time his smack talking will fully live up to your expectations

 

[Christian]

I never thought Id say this, But i hope Contador rides the tour, and I hope that he and Riis rub the schlecks pretty little fashionable noses in it and AC gets another tour.

I have never been a big fan of Riiss or Contador, but the way the schlecks behaved last year at Saxo was disgraceful, and AC as far as Im concerned is being made a scapegoat for doing just what the schlecks are doing anyway. And the fact Pat has as RR Put it, hitched his wagon to team leopard makes me even more sick.

i have no interest in what either of those numpties has to say, and I honestly hope the tour turns into a spectactular disaster for both of them.

Again, the short term memory. Not so long ago everyone said just about the same things about a guy named Wigans and his super squad.
Your attitude of "let's all hate Leopard Trek so we forget just how annoying and pretentious Sky and Wiggins were" does not surprise me in the least.

Schopenhauer declared Schadenfreude the definition of evil. Just to say.

 

[movingtarget]

The Schleck's are entitled to their opinions and I agree with their thoughts. When they say "us" they mean Andy. Frank will never win the Tour with his mediocre time trialling and lack of dominance on the climbs. VDB impressed me last year and I think he and Gesink will do better this year. As for the comments about Sastre, who knows. It was a dominant team that year, it was obvious someone from CSC was going to win. They worked Evan's over and the other's could not follow Sastre on Alpe D'uez. Sastre has not performed at the same level since and I doubt he could have won the Tour on any other team. Sanchez put in a great ride last year but I have my doubts about him being good enough to get past Schleck, Menchov and possibly Basso. If Evans fails to make the top 5 this year he should concentrate on the hilly classics or the Giro which is probably what he should be doing this year.