Six Day Racing

[Dazed and Confused]

Zurish show about to start. Team pres via live stream:

http://www.sixdays-zuerich.ch/index.php?id=113

(ffs Gent, get a live stream going next year. very low cost)

 

[KubaWinter]

Here are some photos from the first day in Zurich. Sorry for the crappy quality, but I forgot to take my flash...

https://plus.google.com/photos/1174...s/6086317530630252321?authkey=CN7KgL_cp725wQE

 

[Akuryo]

Here are some photos from the first day in Zurich. Sorry for the crappy quality, but I forgot to take my flash...

https://plus.google.com/photos/1174...s/6086317530630252321?authkey=CN7KgL_cp725wQE

There are some awesome shots. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[KubaWinter]

It's my pleasure! On the next days I will do my best to take better shots.

Please remember that pictures I'm sharing with you haven't been selected - it's all I got on my memory card

 

[KubaWinter]

Photos from the second day:

https://plus.google.com/photos/1174...s/6086677431568715665?authkey=CMmdioG3_OzFpgE

Please note, that those are not selected photos but just upload of everything that I had on memory card.

First 2 days I couldn't stay for the whole night, but today and tomorrow I will do my best to document the whole evening.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Have fun tonight Winter.

Standings after two evenings:

1 Silvan Dillier (SUI) / Leif Lampater (GER) 0 118
2 Mark Cavendish (GBR) / Iljo Keisse (BEL) -1 129
3 Kenny De Ketele (BEL) / Jasper De Buyst (BEL) -1 124
4 Alex Rasmussen (DEN) / Marc Hester (DEN) -1 112
5 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -1 105
6 Tristan Marguet (SUI) / Marcel Kalz (GER) -1 100
7 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -3 30
8 Roger Kluge (GER) / Jesper Mørkøv (DEN) -4 44
9 Luke Roberts (AUS) / Glenn O’Shea (AUS) -5 49
10 Claudio Imhof (SUI) / Gaël Suter (SUI) -5 44
11 Morgan Kneisky (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -5 35
12 Christian Grasmann (GER) / Jan-André Freuler (SUI) -5 34

Dillier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More tonight via live stream (in 2 hours or so): http://www.sixdays-zuerich.ch/index.php?id=113

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Zurich after 3 nights:
1 Kenny De Ketele (BEL) / Jasper De Buyst (BEL) 0 180
2 Mark Cavendish (GBR) / Iljo Keisse (BEL) 0 180
3 Silvan Dillier (SUI) / Leif Lampater (GER) 0 173
4 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -1 164
5 Alex Rasmussen (DEN) / Marc Hester (DEN) -1 153
6 Tristan Marguet (SUI) / Marcel Kalz (GER) -1 149
7 Roger Kluge (GER) / Jesper Mørkøv (DEN) -4 82
8 Claudio Imhof (SUI) / Gaël Suter (SUI) -5 77
9 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -5 40
10 Christian Grasmann (GER) / Jan-André Freuler (SUI) -6 63
11 Morgan Kneisky (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -6 47
12 Luke Roberts (AUS) / Glenn O’Shea (AUS) -7 78

Last evening with well 6 teams in play. Stream will be online a 60 minutes or so.

 

[Akuryo]

And what a finale it was. They were very close last week in Gent, but now took in in Zurich.

Also great racing from Dillier, who won last year with Keisse. He has a bright future in six day racing and on the road.

 

[KubaWinter]

Please find galleries from the last two days of Sixday Zurich:

https://plus.google.com/photos/1174...s/6087798196618539633?authkey=CP2quK698OSrxgE

https://plus.google.com/photos/1174...ms/6087796867479374225?authkey=COydjL_NsfX3Yw

And few slowmo movies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An5UWdofeP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZkO6e7kab4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMvmtQEJE-c

 

[argyllflyer]

No coverage of the Rotterdam Six this week anywhere?

 

[lemon cheese cake]

No coverage of the Rotterdam Six this week anywhere?

Nothing on the computer or TV for where I live. Nothing from last night on twitter either, except for Team Roompots team presentation that took place there.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Can't remember if Rotterdam had better coverage last year.

Anyway this will be reduced to a bit of result googling.

After 3rd night:
1 Jasper De Buyst (BEL) / Kenny De Ketele (BEL) 0 143
2 Michael Mørkøv (DEN) / Alex Rasmussen (DEN) -1 153
3 Iljo Keisse (BEL) / Niki Terpstra (NED) -1 126
4 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -1 121
5 Wim Stroetinga (NED) / Yoeri Havik (NED) -3 54
6 Leif Lampater (GER) / Nico Heßlich (GER) -3 51
7 Michel Kreder (NED) / Raymond Kreder (NED) -5 66
8 Thomas Boudat (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -6 69
9 Wesley Kreder (NED) / Jesper Asselman (NED) -6 48
10 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -6 3
11 Didier Caspers (NED) / Melvin van Zijl (NED) -7 12
12 André Looij (NED) / Ivan Slik (NED) -9 30
13 Michael Vingerling (NED) / Yondi Schmidt (NED) -14 18
14 Melvin Boskamp (NED) / Barry Markus (NED) -16 18

Go Terpstra ffs.

 

[TShame]

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

not sure many will bother with a youtube clip, I mean its not like the fans are lining up in droves to follow a live stream when its available from a six day event.

Anyway lets see how the Manchester (?) Six Days evolves.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Rotterdam standing before final night:

1 Jasper De Buyst (BEL) / Kenny De Ketele (BEL) 0 243
2 Iljo Keisse (BEL) / Niki Terpstra (NED) 0 231
3 Michael Mørkøv (DEN) / Alex Rasmussen (DEN) -1 239
4 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -2 173
5 Michel Kreder (NED) / Raymond Kreder (NED) -5 114
6 Leif Lampater (GER) / Nico Heßlich (GER) -7 110
7 Thomas Boudat (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -8 118
8 Wim Stroetinga (NED) / Barry Markus (NED) -8 57
9 Wesley Kreder (NED) / Jesper Asselman (NED) -13 66
10 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -13 16
11 Didier Caspers (NED) / Melvin van Zijl (NED) -14 18
12 André Looij (NED) / Ivan Slik (NED) -16 49
13 Michael Vingerling (NED) / Yondi Schmidt (NED) -26 42

My money is on Keisse/Terpstra

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Rotterdam standing before final night:

1 Jasper De Buyst (BEL) / Kenny De Ketele (BEL) 0 243
2 Iljo Keisse (BEL) / Niki Terpstra (NED) 0 231
3 Michael Mørkøv (DEN) / Alex Rasmussen (DEN) -1 239
4 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -2 173
5 Michel Kreder (NED) / Raymond Kreder (NED) -5 114
6 Leif Lampater (GER) / Nico Heßlich (GER) -7 110
7 Thomas Boudat (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -8 118
8 Wim Stroetinga (NED) / Barry Markus (NED) -8 57
9 Wesley Kreder (NED) / Jesper Asselman (NED) -13 66
10 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -13 16
11 Didier Caspers (NED) / Melvin van Zijl (NED) -14 18
12 André Looij (NED) / Ivan Slik (NED) -16 49
13 Michael Vingerling (NED) / Yondi Schmidt (NED) -26 42

My money is on Keisse/Terpstra

De Ketele, from the leading pair was pulled from the race based on medical advice, effectively giving the victory to Keisse/Terpstra. Final standing:

1 Iljo Keisse (BEL) / Niki Terpstra (NED) 0 281
2 Michael Mørkøv (DEN) / Alex Rasmussen (DEN) -3 273
3 David Muntaner (ESP) / Albert Torres (ESP) -3 225
4 Michel Kreder (NED) / Raymond Kreder (NED) -5 138
5 Leif Lampater (GER) / Nico Heßlich (GER) -11 116
6 Wim Stroetinga (NED) / Barry Markus (NED) -11 61
7 Thomas Boudat (FRA) / Vivien Brisse (FRA) -12 162
8 Wesley Kreder (NED) / Jesper Asselman (NED) -16 70
9 Andreas Müller (AUT) / Andreas Graf (AUT) -17 16
10 Didier Caspers (NED) / Melvin van Zijl (NED) -18 34
11 André Looij (NED) / Ivan Slik (NED) -20 67
12 Michael Vingerling (NED) / Yondi Schmidt (NED) -31 52

Full race schedule for Terpstra. Performs year around. No problem.

 

[RedheadDane]

Top 3 in Copenhagen after four days:

1. Rasmussen/Morkov 265
2. Lampater/Kalz 216
3. Grasmann/Morkov 185



After three days Morkov/Beethoven was leading the amateur six day. However, it was only with one point.

 

[postmanhat]

Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

 

[Slaav]

Re: Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

 

[Ariadne]

Re: Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere

 

[Farcanal]

Re: Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere

Yes I went last night too. There were far more there than it appeared on Eurosport for the other nights. The atmosphere was really good but didn't quite have the feel of a continental six day, or the original Skol 6, but maybe the big track and being more open stole some of that. The sound was good but the DJ will have to practice more how to combine it with the actual racing.

The really big disappointment to me was the judging and the screens. The judging was so poor that they even placed Latham/Wood in 2nd place in the same lap as Keisse/Hoecke and Ketele/de Pauw at the end. They were actually a lap down on these two. Latham/Wood went into the final chase in the lead by virtue of being the first to 200 when gaining a lap in the 500TT. During the chase all the laps Latham/Wood gained were neutralised on the track by the other two (and a few others) with Ketele/Pauw and Keisse/Hoecke reaching 200 in the closing laps. The judges completely missed awarding those bonus laps and the crowd was completely unaware because the screens were only updating points and not laps. Needs to be sorted out for future. No good having great music and lights if you get the result wrong.

 

[Ariadne]

Re: Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere

Yes I went last night too. There were far more there than it appeared on Eurosport for the other nights. The atmosphere was really good but didn't quite have the feel of a continental six day, or the original Skol 6, but maybe the big track and being more open stole some of that. The sound was good but the DJ will have to practice more how to combine it with the actual racing.

The really big disappointment to me was the judging and the screens. The judging was so poor that they even placed Latham/Wood in 2nd place in the same lap as Keisse/Hoecke and Ketele/de Pauw at the end. They were actually a lap down on these two. Latham/Wood went into the final chase in the lead by virtue of being the first to 200 when gaining a lap in the 500TT. During the chase all the laps Latham/Wood gained were neutralised on the track by the other two (and a few others) with Ketele/Pauw and Keisse/Hoecke reaching 200 in the closing laps. The judges completely missed awarding those bonus laps and the crowd was completely unaware because the screens were only updating points and not laps. Needs to be sorted out for future. No good having great music and lights if you get the result wrong.

Good point about the judging/screens, they were less than helpful. The beef I had was the sound, it may have been because I was sitting at the trackside and the acoustics were a problem, but it was difficult to hear the commentators and I couldn't hear the interviews at all (I don't think I could have done even if the DJ wasn't playing music while people were talking).

 

[Farcanal]

Re: Re:

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....[/quote]

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere[/quote]

Yes I went last night too. There were far more there than it appeared on Eurosport for the other nights. The atmosphere was really good but didn't quite have the feel of a continental six day, or the original Skol 6, but maybe the big track and being more open stole some of that. The sound was good but the DJ will have to practice more how to combine it with the actual racing.

The really big disappointment to me was the judging and the screens. The judging was so poor that they even placed Latham/Wood in 2nd place in the same lap as Keisse/Hoecke and Ketele/de Pauw at the end. They were actually a lap down on these two. Latham/Wood went into the final chase in the lead by virtue of being the first to 200 when gaining a lap in the 500TT. During the chase all the laps Latham/Wood gained were neutralised on the track by the other two (and a few others) with Ketele/Pauw and Keisse/Hoecke reaching 200 in the closing laps. The judges completely missed awarding those bonus laps and the crowd was completely unaware because the screens were only updating points and not laps. Needs to be sorted out for future. No good having great music and lights if you get the result wrong.[/quote]
Good point about the judging/screens, they were less than helpful. The beef I had was the sound, it may have been because I was sitting at the trackside and the acoustics were a problem, but it was difficult to hear the commentators and I couldn't hear the interviews at all (I don't think I could have done even if the DJ wasn't playing music while people were talking).[/quote]

I agree the acoustics were not good but I don't think that's down to the organisers. The building's shape will have the effect of dissipating sound which will decrease clarity. Short of installing a false ceiling I don't think that could be improved. The whole thing had the feel of people working and trying very hard to make it the best six day ever but missing some vital points. I still think the basic venue is not right. The whole charm of a traditional six is the intimate atmosphere and the 200m tracks allow that (as well as making the racing faster because the laps are easier/quicker to obtain). I notice that Day 6 is not available on demand on Eurosport when all the other nights were. I suspect the organisers didn't want too many people noticing the incorrect result? I guess they think it would make them very unpopular with there target audience to demote the British pair now.

 

[oldcrank]

Re: Re:

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere

Yes I went last night too. There were far more there than it appeared on Eurosport for the other nights. The atmosphere was really good but didn't quite have the feel of a continental six day, or the original Skol 6, but maybe the big track and being more open stole some of that. The sound was good but the DJ will have to practice more how to combine it with the actual racing.

The really big disappointment to me was the judging and the screens. The judging was so poor that they even placed Latham/Wood in 2nd place in the same lap as Keisse/Hoecke and Ketele/de Pauw at the end. They were actually a lap down on these two. Latham/Wood went into the final chase in the lead by virtue of being the first to 200 when gaining a lap in the 500TT. During the chase all the laps Latham/Wood gained were neutralised on the track by the other two (and a few others) with Ketele/Pauw and Keisse/Hoecke reaching 200 in the closing laps. The judges completely missed awarding those bonus laps and the crowd was completely unaware because the screens were only updating points and not laps. Needs to be sorted out for future. No good having great music and lights if you get the result wrong.

Regarding the portion I bolded in your post: There are no bonus laps awarded on
points in the final chase/madison of a Six Day, my friend. (see UCI rule 3.2.244)

 

[Farcanal]

Re: Re:

Farcanal"]

eventually, it will get posted on youtube.

I heard england wants to organize a six day for next year.

Even earlier

"After a 35 year absence, six-day racing returns to it's birthplace, London!"

Live on Eurosport 18-23rd October so overlaps a day with the European Champs. Might not have coverage of the first day

I went on Monday evening
Quite enjoyed it but not a great attendance despite some freebie tickets being given out.....

I went on Monday and Friday. Monday was a slow start in attendance and ambience, by Friday the place was pretty full and a great atmosphere

Yes I went last night too. There were far more there than it appeared on Eurosport for the other nights. The atmosphere was really good but didn't quite have the feel of a continental six day, or the original Skol 6, but maybe the big track and being more open stole some of that. The sound was good but the DJ will have to practice more how to combine it with the actual racing.

The really big disappointment to me was the judging and the screens. The judging was so poor that they even placed Latham/Wood in 2nd place in the same lap as Keisse/Hoecke and Ketele/de Pauw at the end. They were actually a lap down on these two. Latham/Wood went into the final chase in the lead by virtue of being the first to 200 when gaining a lap in the 500TT. During the chase all the laps Latham/Wood gained were neutralised on the track by the other two (and a few others) with Ketele/Pauw and Keisse/Hoecke reaching 200 in the closing laps. The judges completely missed awarding those bonus laps and the crowd was completely unaware because the screens were only updating points and not laps. Needs to be sorted out for future. No good having great music and lights if you get the result wrong.[/quote]
Regarding the portion I bolded in your post: There are no bonus laps awarded on
points in the final chase/madison of a Six Day, my friend. (see UCI rule 3.2.244)[/quote]

That's very interesting and it certainly appears to be the rule, my friend. But in that case every six day I've attended, including Ghent and Rotterdam for several years, has been breaking the rules.