Sky/Froome Talk Only (No Way Sky Are Cleans?)

[Wallace and Gromit]

If you,ve cheated you cant celebrate.

Are you the Hog is disguise? If not then you've just taken his title as the poster of the single most stupid/ridiculous/embarrassing comment ever seen on this forum. And that really is saying something!

 

[taiwan]

He looked absolutely rinsed at the end of that race too, like he had really put everything out there. Just sayin'

This is pretty much true. In the thread ppl were saying he was fresh as a daisy and not fussed, but from the video he was emptying the tank in the last 200m.

 

[Cycle Chic]

So if you have a wild celebration you are clean? I'll look out for that.

Clearly he was clean on La Planche des Belles Filles.

Or was that not wild enough?

On a scale of 1(Not wild) to 10(Christopher McCandless wild) what do you need to score to be clean?

Answers to your comments:-
Do you see the riders behind him ?? YES.
He didn't annihilate them like he did yesterday. He wasn't rinsed...the early riders nearly puked up.

Celebrate- meaning he didn't even smile much.

And all those photos are old school 90's Landis stuff. Wiggins doesn't count...that was the Tour..different.

Being called a female Hog is a huge compliment - thanks you !

 

[BroDeal]

 

[thehog]

This is pretty much true. In the thread ppl were saying he was fresh as a daisy and not fussed, but from the video he was emptying the tank in the last 200m.

6km is a long way.

Do you think he'll finish the race?

 

[SolitaryShell]

+million
But Froome who beats Peraud and Mollema in the CI is doping!

Smells like double standarts boys.

It's not that he beats them, but how he beats them. And the way Porte does it after him: degrading the field to a bunch of amateurs, the same people that he had no chance of following in the mountains few years earlier.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Using Cycle Chic's logic he is clearly clean.

i) Wild celebration
ii) No other riders in sight

He is probably a 7 on the UCI wild index.

 

[sublimit]

Very true. Template of a doper.

He may rue beating up on Ag2r riders at CI.

This is the biggest heist in cycling since USPS.

Daylight robbery.

Hoggie getting trolled by the Dawg

 

[JimmyFingers]

I agree with this. If you read Tylers book he talks of the 'dopers demeanor' after they have won a race.

'Doping Demeanour' great another one to add to the list. I'll file next to the comparisons of rider's heads.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Maybe single fist pump is not so wild.

You need to be an expert to analyse the finer details.

What happens when you celebrate wildly and you don't even win the race?

 

[webvan]

This is getting hilarious...haters are in for a tough three months I think!

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Being called a female Hog is a huge compliment - thanks you !

God help us!

 

[JimmyFingers]

In the spirit of that, we have this double header to consider:

Hmmm

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Sorry, Fearless Greg Lemond, what direct analogies can be drawn between Rominger and Sky?

Go google Romingers carreer and the 'why he never could compete in GT's', let the grey mass work and find me some more cyclists who had/have supposedly diseases that hampered their racing, overwon and concquered subsequently.

Fairy nuff, but as I was saying while his leap in performance is explanable by doping, the clean narrative is also very feasible, given the unknowns. As I said, it's whether you give him the benefit of doubt. I'm guessing which way you'll go on that

Given cycling's past no one should get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[BYOP88]

Sastre 2006/2008 I guess.

Sastre did all 3 in 2006. Although in the Giro he was helping out RoboBasso.

Via what? Twitter?

But be careful, she'll threaten to sue you for libel under British Law.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Enough of the "racism" comments. This is not open to debate.


bison

did he bring up south european again?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Given cycling's past no one should get the benefit of the doubt.

I respect that opinion, but I don't subscribe to it my friend

 

[BroDeal]

I respect that opinion, but I don't subscribe to it my friend

Correction: You subscribe to it in 40% of the cases.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Is that the best you got? Really? What happened to you, you used to be good

 

[Ripper]

... ...
So I'm not claiming Froome is clean, just that there is plausibility in the clean narrative, given the unknown and unmeasurable impact of the parasite. It is then up to the individual to give him the benefit of the doubt or not, but his leap in performance is far from a conclusive indication of drug use.

That's the thing though. Most Sky riders might have some plausibility. It is the collective jumps that one finds most suspicious.

 

[airstream]

It's not that he beats them, but how he beats them. And the way Porte does it after him: degrading the field to a bunch of amateurs, the same people that he had no chance of following in the mountains few years earlier.

He beat them exactly like the best climber in the world should beat 1 time GT top-10 finishers. It was in no way a sensation. If Froome hadn't beaten them, one should have been really surprised.

 

[taiwan]

Don't know why ppl feel the need to rationalise this stuff. You know exactly how it looks. The career trajectory, the dominance, the reputations of those he beats. There is a simple explanation for all these.

 

[Ferminal]

You need to be an expert to analyse the finer details.

What happens when you celebrate wildly and you don't even win the race?

That is easy, he is obviously a doper because he is arrogant enough to celebrate before the line knowing that his pharmacological advantage has already secured the win.

 

[Ripper]

This prologue is just a step in taking the overall, that's the main target this week. And perhaps he was pretty tired, in such a way he couldn't cheer or anything right after the line. You're pretty much a hater, just like La Flo, please elaborate your viewpoint with some reasoning.

The haterz, the haterz!

I will say nuances are worth observing, but there are very few finish line behaviours that are outright indicative of doping (save perhaps grabbing a needle in full view of the public )

Of course dopers stick their arms up when winning in a group sprint. Do you know how hardwired that behaviour is? People who are blind from birth also stick their hands up in the air when winning. This is not something that gets modified with doping.

However, the behaviour of those around you, and of you post race celebration, can be pretty interesting.

 

[Ripper]

But be careful, she'll threaten to sue you for libel under British Law.

You mean MC (not LF)? The whole libel thing is kinda funny when it comes to online forums.