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42x16ss said:
Please, feel free to explain why.

And please, do not trot out the old "Who are you going to believe? A lifelong cycling fan, or an Englishman?" line.

There is no explaining done on this part of the forum. Crazed conspiracy theorists against sane rational sky fans and never the twain will mix .


Obviously if I was going to explain I would say who would you believe a lifelong Cycling fan who has spent their lives( pre Sky )watching cheats or a salt of the earth ,straight talking, clean living, moral incorruptible ,fair minded Englishman
 
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How can anyone call a person on here looking at these performances (ascent times and accelerations that no clean cyclist has ever come near doing IMO) and suspecting doping (given the history of this sport over the last 20+ years) a conspiracy theorist? :confused:

Imagine 9-11 was proved to have been an inside job and they rebuilt the towers and it happened again 6 months later. Because that's what it looks like has happened this year.
 
bewildered said:
How can anyone call a person on here looking at these performances (ascent times and accelerations that no clean cyclist has ever come near doing IMO) and suspecting doping (given the history of this sport over the last 20+ years) a conspiracy theorist? :confused:

Imagine 9-11 was proved to have been an inside job and they rebuilt the towers and it happened again 6 months later. Because that's what it looks like has happened this year.

Dont you worry. "Conspiracy theorist" was the last desperate attempt from the Armstrong handbook when reality was about to knock at his door.

It is a negative label throwned at anyone in order to make them less believable. Very popular in politics but also used everywhere where there are stories behind the picture which are not for the public view and common knowledge.
 
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leon7766 said:
There is no explaining done on this part of the forum. Crazed conspiracy theorists against sane rational sky fans and never the twain will mix .


Obviously if I was going to explain I would say who would you believe a lifelong Cycling fan who has spent their lives( pre Sky )watching cheats or a salt of the earth ,straight talking, clean living, moral incorruptible ,fair minded Englishman
And what makes you think that Brailsford or Froome are as you describe?

The fact they say so?

You are eventually in for some massive disappointment, just like every other cycling fan at some stage.
 
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leon7766 said:
There is no explaining done on this part of the forum. Crazed conspiracy theorists against sane rational sky fans and never the twain will mix .


Obviously if I was going to explain I would say who would you believe a lifelong Cycling fan who has spent their lives( pre Sky )watching cheats or a salt of the earth ,straight talking, clean living, moral incorruptible ,fair minded Englishman

Yes because in the history of the world, an Englishman has never ever lied, right?

As for straight talking, Brailsford doesn't seem that way at all. Just check out some of his greatest hits.
 

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Maybe it's the beige suit but is the Dawg a little chubby?

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yup, despite that "sports scientist" (sorry the name has slipped my mind, the one Sky release Dawgs post 2011 Veulta to) claiming his weight has never varies more than 900g since 2008, it looks like Dawg has definitely put on weight....
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Careful ;)
 
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During the Tour you said that curing your bilharzia (a disease caused by parasites with fatigue as a symptom) was only one of many steps you needed to take to transform yourself into a Tour de France champion.

The bilharzia was huge because in our sport if you are tired and unfit, it is going to be tough. Basically bilharzia is the opposite of EPO. It sucks out the red blood cells and leaves you depleted. And it comes in waves. There are eggs [from the parasite] in your body and once the eggs hatch they start multiplying. That is why I have tests every six months. In fact, it has been awhile. I have to get back to Africa and check that out.

I bet he does.

http://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-c...tter-_-Bicycling-_-Content-Story-_-froome-int
 
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thehog said:
Maybe it's the beige suit but is the Dawg a little chubby?

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I hope The Dawg took a good look at Cav and Berto and Birdsong because that beige suit with that blue tie and those brown pants and the shoes ... :eek:
 
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I also spoke with your old trainer, Bobby Julich. He likened working with you to building a ship. At first there were a lot of pieces to put in place, but now that those pieces are in place you can float all alone.

There were a lot of things. Confidence was huge. Because I didn’t believe in myself, I didn’t think I was at the level of others, and I made mistakes. There were days in the mountains, for example, where I did everything perfectly, saved my energy, just everything. I would get to the bottom of the last climb feeling great. But because I didn’t feel like I could go with the big guys when they would go, I often attacked at the bottom to get a head start.

My best hope was that, when the big guys came up, maybe I could just hold on and get a place. But I would never actually wait until the crucial moment when things got really hard and the big guys would start pulling away. And the simple reason is that I didn’t believe in myself.

Bobby said, “Chris, listen, I can see your numbers. I can see that you are capable of being with those front guys and possibly even riding away from them with these numbers. You’ve got to settle down and believe in yourself and play the waiting game until the right moment in the race.”

But even with Bobby telling me that, I still didn’t believe. That was only when I got to the Vuelta in 2011 and was given the job to stay with Bradley [Wiggins]. Naturally with that job in mind I didn’t attack at the bottom of the climb. And I would get three-quarters of the way up the climb and be like, “Hey I actually feel good!”

Well then Bobby and Chris, let's see those numbers that he was supposedly producing pre-2011 Vuelta because without that this stuff is just incredibly hard to believe.
 
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I'd also add to that, that come the 2013 Tour de France Froome wasn't just attacking at the bottom of climbs but he'd then ride away from them all the way to the top! :rolleyes:
 
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Julich still looks after Froome though from what I hear.

That appears to be evident in his performances. The moment he loses Julich he will lose the plot tactically which will result in a decrease in performance of 10-15%.
 
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webvan said:
Indeed...can't they test for that disease in Europe?

Doctors and hospitals in Europe just aren't very good at all. Underfunded universities and sub standard equipment all around. Wouldn't touch the stuff myself. Book a flight to Congo and get sorted is the way to go.
 
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Amazing.

good work jranton finding that.


The claim that he became good by not attacking on climbs is such bs how can anyone believe that. How far out did he attack on ventoux. 6k was it. 5 on bonsacre If he can beat Armstrongs time for last 6k on ventoux going solo then in the 6k climbs in wt races or lower, if he attacked at the bottom of climbs he should have been winning by at least 3 minutes by the top considering how much lower the level was.

and what's his excuse for not being the worlds 3rd best tter back then jullich taught him how to pace himself in tts?

how can anyone not see past that **** and bull story.

As for bilharzia, good to see froome go on record post tour that bilharzia is a non curable disease (blatantly false).

And the bit about having to go to Africa to check it out. Lolololol.
 

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sittingbison said:
yup, despite that "sports scientist" (sorry the name has slipped my mind, the one Sky release Dawgs post 2011 Veulta to) claiming his weight has never varies more than 900g since 2008, it looks like Dawg has definitely put on weight....
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Careful ;)

SB, that's not what 'the scientist' said, you've completely misunderstood.
 
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The Hitch said:
Amazing.

good work jranton finding that.


The claim that he became good by not attacking on climbs is such bs how can anyone believe that. How far out did he attack on ventoux. 6k was it. 5 on bonsacre If he can beat Armstrongs time for last 6k on ventoux going solo then in the 6k climbs in wt races or lower, if he attacked at the bottom of climbs he should have been winning by at least 3 minutes by the top considering how much lower the level was.

and what's his excuse for not being the worlds 3rd best tter back then jullich taught him how to pace himself in tts?

how can anyone not see past that **** and bull story.

As for bilharzia, good to see froome go on record post tour that bilharzia is a non curable disease (blatantly false).

And the bit about having to go to Africa to check it out. Lolololol.

Agree hitch it is getting more ridiculous every day
 

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LaFlorecita said:
Agree hitch it is getting more ridiculous every day

As well as his suit! What was he thinking! Beige? Is he an accountant? Pale skin, blonde hair should never be paired with beige.

Alberto always dresses well.
 
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thehog said:
As well as his suit! What was he thinking! Beige? Is he an accountant? Pale skin, blonde hair should never be paired with beige.

Alberto always dresses well.

Agreed on both accounts :D unfortunately there is no way to dope your fashion sense
 
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I like how they keep menioning that Badzilla is the opposite of EPO.

Dawg, the first rider in the world that does reverse doping.
 

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the sceptic said:
I like how they keep menioning that Badzilla is the opposite of EPO.

Dawg, the first rider in the world that does reverse doping.

Thats how good he is.

Someone on the Badzhilla thread was saying that it doesn't eat red blood cells. Only white.

So more BS on that front.
 
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Can't wait for the Froome press release stating he's still got badzilla and needs more treatment, but don't worry Froome fans even with the disease he'll still destroy the evil dopers.:)
 

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