Soler update thread

[thirteen]

here's an article in german (that i don't understand): http://www.blick.ch/sport/rad/so-erlebt-cancellara-den-horror-sturz-174857

part of a truly awful google translation is thus:

The horrific accident happened last Thursday shortly after the start of stage six. The victim Mauricio Soler (Col) is. Sirnach (km 11), the second overall at the rear wheel drives of Fabian Cancellara .

The Swiss describes the drama this way: "I came with my bike on a number of paving stones that serve as borders. . The tire touches the borders, I feel the bike pulls to the right I jack with one leg out of the pedals and pull the machine with a swing to the left -. Then it crashes behind me "

Mauricio Soler has not the technical class of Berners. In the field he is considered "breaking pilot" with great technical weaknesses. He no longer brings the bike pulling to the right on the street. He will hang at the borders and crashed right into a concrete wall with Gartenhag.

Cancellara: "I got a nasty detour through the adrenaline rush. Immediately I began to think of my teammates who died in the giro Wouter Weylandt."

it sounds like there was a lot more going on than bad bike handling and that even Cancellara struggled at the same point...

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Cancellara basically said he hit the stones along the way: gutter, sidewalk, something like that, and it threw him off balance. He then heard the crash behind him.

So apparently either Soler had the same problem or had to swerve to avoid hitting Cancellara.

Incidentally, Blick does not have the best reputation. It asked its readers to send in photos of Soler's crash for payment of 500 Euros or so.

Susan

 

[thirteen]

Cancellara basically said he hit the stones along the way: gutter, sidewalk, something like that, and it threw him off balance. He then heard the crash behind him.

So apparently either Soler had the same problem or had to swerve to avoid hitting Cancellara.

Incidentally, Blick does not have the best reputation. It asked its readers to send in photos of Soler's crash for payment of 500 Euros or so.

Susan

ooh... my bad... someone had posted the link elsewhere and it gave more details of what may had happened than i had seen elsewhere

bad, bad Blick!

still, it does bring up that there *was* something in the road that was causing problems...

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Well, not necessarily. They may have just misjudged a curve or corner and come to close to the curb.

Darn, that is the word I couldn't think of (comes form speaking German all day). So not stones in the road or gutter, but the curb.

Susan

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

ooh... my bad... someone had posted the link elsewhere and it gave more details of what may had happened than i had seen elsewhere

bad, bad Blick!

still, it does bring up that there *was* something in the road that was causing problems...

Last week I found a post on another forum that referenced information from Nieuwsblad. It said that a rider reported that Soler hit a curb near a roundabout. The post did not specify whether the incident happened before, inside, or after the roundabout.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Incidentally, the official news from Movistar doesn't sound quite so optimistic.

http://www.movistarteam.com/news/2011-6-21/positive-news-for-soler

Susan

 

[Bavarianrider]

Expect him to anounce his retirement within the next few weeks

 

[hrotha]

Expect him to anounce his retirement within the next few weeks

Expect him to leave intensive care within the next few weeks, if anything.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Expect him to leave intensive care within the next few weeks, if anything.

He'll be fine don't worry

 

[hrotha]

He'll be fine don't worry

He's going to survive is what you mean. We still don't know how severe his brain injuries are, but we know for a fact they expect him to remain in intensive care for a while. His condition is not life-threatening anymore, but it's still extremely serious.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I was just thinking how extreme life can be.

One day you have one of your biggest successes ever (TdS stage win after years of struggling with injuries), then a few days later you crash into an (induced) coma.

 

[Bavarianrider]

He's going to survive is what you mean. We still don't know how severe his brain injuries are, but we know for a fact they expect him to remain in intensive care for a while. His condition is not life-threatening anymore, but it's still extremely serious.

He'll recover just like all those skiers in the past who were on intensve care so long. Think positive.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

fine, have it your way smart*ss

he's right though, if you focus on your bike, you're not going to fall. Unless it's someone else's fault of course

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

if you focus on your bike you are not focused around you and you crash, the bike doesn't need focus, it should already be part of you, only focus is on where you go with your bike

 

[Libertine Seguros]

To be fair, why the crash happened in terms of focus or why Soler's always struggled for bike handling is no longer relevant. What has happened has happened, regardless of why it has happened.

For all the "riding again/career over/back to Colombia" speculation, I think that, for now at least, especially given the last two months that the sport has had to endure, we should at least thank whatever we think there is above or around or whatever we like to thank at times like this, for the news that has arrived today. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, active cyclist, is a question for another time. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, living, breathing human being, is what's important right now.

 

[RedheadDane]

For all the "riding again/career over/back to Colombia" speculation, I think that, for now at least, especially given the last two months that the sport has had to endure, we should at least thank whatever we think there is above or around or whatever we like to thank at times like this, for the news that has arrived today. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, active cyclist, is a question for another time. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, living, breathing human being, is what's important right now.

This!

The man's alive, right now that's all that matters.

 

[Duartista]

To be fair, why the crash happened in terms of focus or why Soler's always struggled for bike handling is no longer relevant. What has happened has happened, regardless of why it has happened.

For all the "riding again/career over/back to Colombia" speculation, I think that, for now at least, especially given the last two months that the sport has had to endure, we should at least thank whatever we think there is above or around or whatever we like to thank at times like this, for the news that has arrived today. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, active cyclist, is a question for another time. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, living, breathing human being, is what's important right now.

You are 100% right of course. Speculation about his future as a cyclist is just, I think, a result of people starting to feel cautiously optimistic about his progress.

 

[mewmewmew13]

To be fair, why the crash happened in terms of focus or why Soler's always struggled for bike handling is no longer relevant. What has happened has happened, regardless of why it has happened.

For all the "riding again/career over/back to Colombia" speculation, I think that, for now at least, especially given the last two months that the sport has had to endure, we should at least thank whatever we think there is above or around or whatever we like to thank at times like this, for the news that has arrived today. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, active cyclist, is a question for another time. The status of Juan Mauricio Soler, living, breathing human being, is what's important right now.

good thoughts Libertine. thanks for the post.

 

[Marva32]

He'll be fine don't worry

Something like this, I always worry

I spent a week in ICU last year for an infection (thankfully not a brain injury) and it is a scary time for the patient and their family. My prayers are with them

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

I was just thinking how extreme life can be.

One day you have one of your biggest successes ever (TdS stage win after years of struggling with injuries), then a few days later you crash into an (induced) coma.

No ***. One of my neighbors kids ended up in the hospital after his 1-Ton truck rolled over the top of him from head to toe when he was getting out from under the truck (he was mechanicin under there on a bit of a slope). They had to airlift him to a more specialized hospital serveral hunderd miles away. When he woke he said to his parents with a surprised look on his face, "What, I'm still here". Yeah, his last thoughts were he thought he was a goner. He almost did not make it though, and the docs thought he was done because all his internal organs were shutting down and both lungs were collapsed. There was nothing more they could do for him. But someone was looking out for him... his lungs reinflated on their own and all his organs and vitals returned. He's still a mess and has many surgeries ahead to repair crushed hips and pelvis, plus some 6-8 months recovery to look forward to, but he's a bit more appreciative of what he's got now.

But at least things are looking up. I hear things are getting better for Soler, so that's great news. Here's to a full recovery for Soler.

 

[just some guy]

He has begun to make light movements and tests seem to rule out spinal injury, although we should be aware of further studies. Now we have to see the evolution of a possible neurological damage, a process in which we must be patient.

“The cerebral edema [fluid in the brain] is subsiding, the intracranial pressure is declining and the development of pneumothorax [collapsed lung] is also positive. Mauricio is still in the intensive care unit and he will stay there for several days.”


Soler has been joined in hospital in St Gallen, Switzerland by his wife Patricia and his brother, who arrived from Colombia on Saturday.

......................................

 

[The Hitch]

Contador has written " Me alegra ver buenas noticias sobre la salud J.Mauricio Soler"

"I am happy to see the good news about the health of JM Soler".

 

[hrotha]

Contador has written " Me alegra ver buenas noticias sobre la salud J.Mauricio Soler"

"I am happy to see the good news about the health of JM Soler".

Pistolero, is that you?

 

[The Hitch]

Pistolero, is that you?

Pistolero wouldnt offer a translation. He would just post the original then assume (aka show off that he speaks the language) by not offering the translation

But i thought it was relevant because im not sure what the good news Contador is reffering to is. Justsomeguy says there are movements but they still dont know how bad it will be, whereas Contador says he is happy to see news of good health, and it was posted later so i was wondering if there are some more updates.

 

[El Pistolero]

Pistolero wouldnt offer a translation. He would just post the original then assume (aka show off that he speaks the language) by not offering the translation

But i thought it was relevant because im not sure what the good news Contador is reffering to is. Justsomeguy says there are movements but they still dont know how bad it will be, whereas Contador says he is happy to see news of good health, and it was posted later so i was wondering if there are some more updates.

Contador is probably happy he isn't in life danger anymore.

And Contador always posts in English as well by the way