South American race thread

[Valv.Piti]

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So 5 stages for Gaviria and the overall for Bernal?

Sprinters: Gaviria, Richeze (will get a gift), van Poppel, Guardini, Haedo, Ruffoni, Marini, Gavazzi, Viviani, Angarita... not bad.

For GC it is wide open. Short Itt and a not too hard climb, but still an long one. My guess is Sepulveda, if he shows up in his San Luis shape of 2016. But I don't know if the Argentine national team will work for him or Rosas, who won the race in the last three years. All the top Argentines will be here, except Dani "Froome of January" Diaz.

No, its actually a very good sprinting field, it was said jokingly. I am also aware that Bernal probably won't win on a shallow MTF and a flat time trial, but one can only hope for some TdU standards as a fan.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Sevilla will win this!

Indeed.
It will be remarkable.

 

[Jakob747]

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What's up with that Rosas guy? I've just read some hype about him this year, and as far as I can tell he's a decent time trialist who's fast as well... but no climbing results according to cqranking the last couple of seasons.

EDIT: okay, winner of the last three editions, fair enough. But he still has no UCI mountain results.

Rosas is a machine, winning everything left and right in Argentina. He is in good form {he won a stage in Giro del Sol recently for example} and driven I think to try fight against the best in San Juan. Last year his team-mate Elías “Chucky” Pereyra was killed while out training and Rosas stated today, he is motivated to put in a good ride in memory of him.

Maybe he hasn't got any UCI hill-top results, but he is very, very complete rider at lower level. Last year in Vuelta Catamarca, he won the overall GC and two stages, among other, the finish on top of Cerro Los Ángeles {1320 above alttitude}. He also won the last time the peloton visited Alto del Colorado, so he knows the decisive climb well.

I have no idea how he will go against this type of competition, though. Personally, I am more interested in following the two young Colombians on Medellin - Inder, Julián Cardona and Javier Montoya both immense talents who can climb and TT very, very well.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Laureano Rosas stands no chance against real competition. He may rip the Argentinean scene apart by winning every shitrace between Montevideo and Santiago de Chile, but I doubt we will see a lot of him in Europe this year - he signed with the Romanian Tusnad outfit. Plus he had clinic issues.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Re: Re:

What's up with that Rosas guy? I've just read some hype about him this year, and as far as I can tell he's a decent time trialist who's fast as well... but no climbing results according to cqranking the last couple of seasons.

EDIT: okay, winner of the last three editions, fair enough. But he still has no UCI mountain results.

Rosas is a machine, winning everything left and right in Argentina. He is in good form {he won a stage in Giro del Sol recently for example} and driven I think to try fight against the best in San Juan. Last year his team-mate Elías “Chucky” Pereyra was killed while out training and Rosas stated today, he is motivated to put in a good ride in memory of him.

Maybe he hasn't got any UCI hill-top results, but he is very, very complete rider at lower level. Last year in Vuelta Catamarca, he won the overall GC and two stages, among other, the finish on top of Cerro Los Ángeles {1320 above alttitude}. He also won the last time the peloton visited Alto del Colorado, so he knows the decisive climb well.

I have no idea how he will go against this type of competition, though. Personally, I am more interested in following the two young Colombians on Medellin - Inder, Julián Cardona and Javier Montoya both immense talents who can climb and TT very, very well.

if they do any serious doping tests at this race we won't see rosas anywhere near winning I'm afraid

 

[RedheadDane]

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On a side note: Is attilio viviani family from Elia?

I was wondering that too, then I went to procyclingstats to look it up and... how many Vivianis are there? :surprised:

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

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On a side note: Is attilio viviani family from Elia?

I was wondering that too, then I went to procyclingstats to look it up and... how many Vivianis are there? :surprised:

Two (of any relevance).

 

[CTQ]

http://m.larena.it/home/sport/attilio-come-elia-viviani-%C3%A8-sempre-oro-1.3086148 Attillio And Elia are brothers

 

[Guybrush]

Vuelta a San Juan

live video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7w8Yx5CRpA

radio (in spanish): http://www.emisorasargentinas.com/radio-la-voz-1005-fm-san-juan-en-vivo-online

and apparently it will be broadcasted by eurosport

http://www.eurosport.com/cycling/vuelta-a-san-juan/2017/live-san-juan-san-juan_mtc925538/live.shtml

 

[Valv.Piti]

Any clue to when they will finish.. 3-4 hours or so?

Just found out the last climb only is 4,4% and a max of 6,2%. Hardly impressive, but the accumulated elevation on that stage early on in the season and the height of the last climb should force a selection. Hopefully, in Bernal's favour!

 

[Guybrush]

you mean the Alto del Colorado stage?

 

[Kazistuta]

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you mean the Alto del Colorado stage?

I'm sure he does. The preview guy from cyclingquotes is now solely on feltet.dk, and he made a big preview in Danish of Vuelta a San Juan.

 

[DNP-Old]

I very much doubt this will be the case with Sevilla in the squad; but I genuinely hope both Javier Montoya and Julian Cardona can have somewhat of a free role with Inder. They should be able to show themselves on the big stage, because Europe can't come soon enough for both.

Both riders are from 1997 and have been doing fairly well in Colombia's youth races these past few years. Cardona won the 2015 Vuelta del Porvenir - basically the Vuelta a Colombia for U19 riders - whereas Montoya finished 2nd. However, they aren't just good on the road, as they finished second (along with Wilmar Paredes and Jaime Restrepo) in the TP on the track three years ago in Gwangmyeong.

 

[DNP-Old]

Speaking of Vuelta del Porvenir winners, Manzana have got themselves a really nice program, including Algarve and even Catalunya. It's time for Hernan Aguirre to come back to life and it'll be a nice opportunity for Jhojan Garcia to show the world how good he is. Unless they want to screw the team even more by riding for the likes of Vilela and Jetse Bol.

 

[DNP-Old]

That was easy.

 

[Kazistuta]

WTF! Half the field got lead the wrong way in the last k.... had to drag their bikes across a field to cross the goal line. For sure they must be rewarded st.

Gaviria as expected unbeatable i the sprint, Viviani couldn't do anything.

 

[DNP-Old]

Apparently half the peloton took a wrong turn.

 

[Rollthedice]

Few odd names in top 10:

1. Gaviria, 2. Viviani, 3. Marini, 4. Malucelli, 5. Nibali, 6. Boonen, 7. Brändle, 8. Ramirez, 9. Mollema, 10. Sevilla.

 

[Brullnux]

/How did Nibali finish 5th? Did he decide to build on that one time he outsprinted Don Alejandro?

 

[barmaher]

The parcours for this race is pretty lame.

 

[Jancouver]

Stage 2.

1. Boonen
2. Viviani
3. Gavazzi?

Just fast forward to the sprint

https://youtu.be/jbK7Z1qC9ZQ

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Ah I can sleap in peace now

 

[Alexandre B.]

Not a pretty sprint from Boonen, I have to say.

 

[Akuryo]

Another perfect leadout by Quickstep. This time with Boonen at the end of it. Maybe next time Richeze gets his chance

 

[Ricco']

No DQ?

If it was Bouhanni all hell would break loose, Tommeke went from the right side of the road to the middle and blocked Viviani very clearly.