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Of course Landa made a massive improvement either way, but I don't think Contador is riding at let's say Vuelta 2014 level
IMO the fact that Landa can stay with Contador and even ride away (although Contador was tired, of course) is proof that Contador is not (yet) in good form. I think he is in decent shape but nothing extraordinary.red_flanders said:T_S_A_R said:The stage was epic today but according to Vetooo Contador was only at 5.8W/kg up Mortirolo and at 45:16 was slower than Nibali, Scarponi and Basso in 2010 who went up in 44:39 (and had the benefit of the Liqiguas train for a while IIRC?)
Landa is much stronger than we have ever seen him but I don't think he did anything eye popping today. Compared to the previous three Tours and four Vueltas this hasn't been too alien.
Other than crush the entire field, all of whom have actually ridden this race, at the speed it's been ridden, over this pacours.
The numbers are always somewhat interesting, but one has to temper them with what you see with your eyes. His ride was enough to hammer a clearly on-form Contador.
Which is absurd.
Of course Landa made a massive improvement either way, but I don't think Contador is riding at let's say Vuelta 2014 level