Stage 16: Ponte Di Legno-Val Martello/Martelltal (139 km)

[Arnout]

Rasmus Staghøj‏@Staghoj·2 mins
Jeg har aldrig set det her før. Stemningen er ophidset. Greenedges sportsdirektør hæver stemmen. Riis har haft ordet pic.twitter.com/LxYuKdhctH

Translation: "I've never seen this before. The atmosphere is tense. Greenedges sports director raises his voice. Riis has spoken"

Riis

It's good to see Riis and Lefevere most outraged by this. That makes me happy.

 

[luckyboy]

haha Tinkov rolled up to the meeting

 

[Der Effe]

Yeah, after the race, when it was too late.

Did he wave his red flag after the race? Hesjedal, Quintana and Rolland are all grown-up men, I'm sure they don't need a guy on a motorbike pulling them off their bikes to know the meaning of that.

 

[Cimber]

haha Tinkov rolled up to the meeting

Staghøj's says that Tinkov is speaking now - should be colourful

Apparently Tinkov and the Greenedge SD are argueing loudly

 

[ILovecycling]

haha Tinkov rolled up to the meeting

Cmon Oleg,smash them!

 

[Netserk]

No, the idea was that during the first part while the red falg was up there was to be no attracking and they should remain behind the moto till the flag was down

Keep going =/= attacking.

 

[pastronef]

so, from Roche diary it looks like he, Majka, Uran, Evans, and other teammates (Aru too, Rai tv said so) stopped at the top.

Nairo, Izaguirre, Rolland and Ryder maybe made a mistake overtaking the motorbike.
BUT look at the picture with the motorbike in front on the, and the snow and the visibility. wow.
BIG COJONES for them. not only not stopping to refuel and dress, but attacking through a storm above 2500 meters!

great ride anyway. just a shame the confusion about the safety-neutralisation.

but big cojones

 

[meat puppet]

Keep going =/= attacking.

Pretty certain the front group will play this card at some point.

 

[Cimber]

Keep going =/= attacking.

They were not allowed to pass the moto while the flag was up. They did

 

[Eclipse]

haha Tinkov rolled up to the meeting

He's hilarious in his own special way.

 

[Arnout]

Did he wave his red flag after the race? Hesjedal, Quintana and Rolland are all grown-up men, I'm sure they don't need a guy on a motorbike pulling them off their bikes to know the meaning of that.

Really? I didn't know about the possibility of red flag waving during a stage to neutralize. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities to assume that's just a motorbike that is trying to warn for the corners. In the end, there are hundreds of sign givers every race that are waving flags...

He should've acted during the race. He is the organizer and he failed his job organizing the race.

 

[hrotha]

but big cojones

Yeah, it takes balls to break the rules like that.

 

[pastronef]

Staghøj's says that Tinkov is speaking now - should be colourful

Apparently Tinkov and the Greenedge SD are argueing loudly

I wonder WTF Scinto is going to understand, he almost speaks Italian

 

[Cimber]

José Been‏@TourDeJose·1 min
MT @BiciGoga: Oleg Tinkov "My personal opinion is that yesterday's results should be cancelled." #giro

Rasmus Staghøj‏@Staghoj·2 mins
Tinkov er rasende. Han mener alle tider skal nulstilles. Han så selv Quintana angribe med rødt flag foran sig #girodk

Translation: "Tinkov is furious. He think times should be reset. He himself saw Quintana attack with the red flag in front of him"

Rasmus Staghøj‏@Staghoj·2 mins
"It's a big mess," siger han. "Det var aldrig sket i Formel 1". Går ophidset fra mødet og ind i Tinkoff-Saxo bussen #girodk

translation: "Its a big mess. It would never have happened in Formula 1". He leaves the meeting fuming and enters the Tinkoff-Saxo bus

 

[Knutsen]

Cmon Oleg,smash them!

Riis will throw Olegs bike!

 

[jens_attacks]

Red flag on moto to show dangerous corners?

well they used the red flags also in the canola stage to warn the peloton to slow down because of the hailstones on the road, slippery condition.i've seen them multiple times used when obstacles were on the road or very dangerous descents. you can't figure out if the race is neutralized just from those flags. 100% sure.
i can see why quintana overpassed them, "well you stayed in front of us these first few hairpins, now the road is clear, no fog. move at the side, we have a race here".
i don't blame europcar and quintana. in my opnion, the only at fault are the organizers. that is a very ambiguous radio message for christ sake.

 

[Arnout]

José Been‏@TourDeJose·1 min
MT @BiciGoga: Oleg Tinkov "My personal opinion is that yesterday's results should be cancelled." #giro

Rasmus Staghøj‏@Staghoj·2 mins
Tinkov er rasende. Han mener alle tider skal nulstilles. Han så selv Quintana angribe med rødt flag foran sig #girodk

Translation: "Tinkov is furious. He think times should be reset. He himself saw Quintana attack with the red flag in front of him"

Rasmus Staghøj‏@Staghoj·2 mins
"It's a big mess," siger han. "Det var aldrig sket i Formel 1". Går ophidset fra mødet og ind i Tinkoff-Saxo bussen #girodk

translation: "Its a big mess. It would never have happened in Formula 1". He leaves the meeting fuming and enters the Tinkoff-Saxo bus

It's so good to see shady business figures and pathological liars like Riis and Lefevere standing up for fair cycling

And things like this don't happen in F1 (although there are lots of controversies over rules interpretations every year in that sport) because the safety car implementation is well-established.

 

[Cimber]

José Been‏@TourDeJose·5s
NO stage today, says @AntoinePlouvin from Italy #giro pic.twitter.com/c5e4gJAjhV

 

[webvan]

Pretty certain the front group will play this card at some point.

Yes, there was going to be a problem anyway for those stopping vs those who didn't when the flag was lowered, just assuming they could catch up is not a good excuse, it's not a Sunday ride! The reality is that they were probably happy to see Quintana take off so far away thinking he would get exhausted.

 

[Cimber]

Keep going =/= attacking.

Mikkel Condé v2.0‏@mrconde·1 min
About yesterday. Quintana says Rolland and a team mate attacked on the descent. Then he followed. Rolland says it was the other way around.

So there was an attack

 

[Czapiewski]

well they used the red flags also in the canola stage to warn the peloton to slow down because of the hailstones on the road, slippery condition.i've seen them multiple times used when obstacles were on the road or very dangerous descents. you can't figure out if the race is neutralized just from those flags. 100% sure.
i can see why quintana overpassed them, "well you stayed in front of us these first few hairpins, now the road is clear, no fog. move at the side, we have a race here".
i don't blame europcar and quintana. in my opnion, the only at fault are the organizers. that is a very ambiguous radio message for christ sake.

I agree, I saw red flags used to warn about dangerous parts, but I do not remembers red flags on motos (what would be the point of that?)

 

[Arnout]

José Been‏@TourDeJose·5s
NO stage today, says @AntoinePlouvin from Italy #giro pic.twitter.com/c5e4gJAjhV

Yeah let's punish the fans that already paid money for transport et al.

F*** them really.

 

[Cimber]

Yeah let's punish the fans that already paid money for transport et al.

F*** them really.

Wel if they decide to ride Stelvio again I would be happy

 

[Eshnar]

I agree, I saw red flags used to warn about dangerous parts, but I do not remembers red flags on motos (what would be the point of that?)

there was a moto holding a red flag on the descent of Monte Cesane in 2009, iirc. It was a sterrato section.

 

[jens_attacks]

i guess i reallly have to buy one of paolini's shirts now. pro cycling is the most amazing circus there is on the earth. luv it

i hope tinkov fights unzue. literally.