Netserk said:AFAIK it means dangerous corner. It was only a safety measure.
If that's the case, and the race was not neutralised over the radio, then race on.
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Netserk said:AFAIK it means dangerous corner. It was only a safety measure.
King Boonen said:Do you mean why throw them out? I'm under the belief that a red flag means stop racing and stay behind this bike. If I'm right and they disobeyed that, bye bye.
Beech Mtn said:Yes, let's stop only Quintana, and do nothing about the 8-10 other guys who also didn't ride a pretend neutralized descent. That sounds fair.
damian13ster said:Not according to race radio which clearly states not to overtake the moto....
King Boonen said:Fair enough.
We are obviously not being given enough information but it seems easy. If the race was neutralised, they're out. If not then people can quit their whining.
Lets replace Quintana with Froome and see if people still feel the same way...
Are you reading our posts?King Boonen said:Fair enough.
We are obviously not being given enough information but it seems easy. If the race was neutralised, they're out. If not then people can quit their whining.
Lets replace Quintana with Froome and see if people still feel the same way...
cineteq said:Are you reading our posts?
christopherrowe said:I'll just point out again that, at least from what I can find, there is no mention of what a red flag waved in front of a rider does or does not mean in the UCI Road Race regulations. I believe that the onus of communicating what on-road signals and signs means is on the organizers and the individual commissaires on a race by race basis.
In this case, according to what was communicated over race radio, what the red flag seems to have meant is "maintain your position" or "no attacks."
In case of an accident or incident that could impinge upon the normal conduct of a race in general or a particular stage thereof, race director may, after obtaining the agreement of the commissaires' panel and having informed the timekeepers, at any moment, decide:
• to modify the course,
• to temporarily neutralize the race or stage,
• to declare a stage null and voice,
• to cancel part of a stage as well as the results of any possible intermediate classifications and to restart the stage near the place of the incident,
• to let the results stand or
• to restart the race or stage, taking account of the gaps recorded at the moment of the incident.
hfer07 said:FINALLY!!!!
It took 200 pages of nonsense to get to this!! AMEN !!!
can we finally move on????
King Boonen said:Yes, are you reading what you are posting?
The first paragraph says that it was an inaccurate interpretation by race radio.
The second paragraph does not state whether riders were instructed to remain behind the motorcycles. It says guarantee rider safety. Surely you can only do that by stopping them racing? How else can you guarantee it?
The third paragraph states neutralisation was not stated by the radio. But if you stop them racing for the top hairpins that's neutralisation. If you don't you can't guarantee rider safety. Can't have it both ways I'm afraid.
So what was the inaccurate interpretation? Surely it's either stay behind the motorcycles or you don't have to stay behind the motorcycles. How did they try to guarantee safety without stopping them racing?
Not enough information.
Edit:
Seeing as rudeness is obviously the order of the day.
Netserk said:We're getting closer...
Netserk said:We're getting closer...
SafeBet said:Problem is the Race Design Thread will get hundreds more posts in the future.
Piz Buin said:Did anyone catch what quintana just said. They also asked fabio aru about not congratulating quintana. What did he say?
BigMac said:There are dozens of threads with more posts than the Pinerolo stage. It's about the race thread with more posts. Race Design Thread does not count.
paragraph 2.2.016The organiser shall, by way of signs, give sufficient prior notice of any obstacle that he can reasonably be expected to know or anticipate and that presents an abnormal security risk for riders and attendants.
The organiser shall have an inspection vehicle lead the race to point out any possible obstacles.
Armchair cyclist said:What on earth is the race design thread doing in the Professional road racing section anyway?