Piz Buin said:Did nobody watch RAI ?
They're still discussing yesterday
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Piz Buin said:Did nobody watch RAI ?
They're still discussing yesterday
damian13ster said:And we arrived at the real problem here. Many people here dont care about true nature of sport. As long as Colombian wins, even if it was by suckerpunching all of the opponents or throwing them all of the cliff they will be happy and everybody who even considers noting that not everything was in the spirit of sport rivalization is a whiner.
BigMac said:Because our PRR dreams and contributions are in there?
Angliru said:...and in your case, as long as your hated/despised Quintana does not win then, and only then, will you be content. Don't try to spin it as if everyone here that has an opposing view to yours is lacking what you seem think that you have in abundance: integrity. You're no better than anyone else arguing against your point. The difference is that your holy-than-thou personna is as transparent as a worn out pair of lycra bibs.
damian13ster said:And we arrived at the real problem here. Many people here dont care about true nature of sport. As long as Colombian wins, even if it was by suckerpunching all of the opponents or throwing them all of the cliff they will be happy and everybody who even considers noting that not everything was in the spirit of sport rivalization is a whiner.
Agreed. Sounds reasonable.FoxxyBrown1111 said:Solution: If those involved are grown up men, with at least a little integrity left, they would accept the only way possible: Making a compromise. AFAIR, the gap was between 1.37 and 1.45 at parts after the descent. Reduce that amount (1.45) of Rolland, Nairo and Hesj, and go on from there. Everybody would win. The fans having their spectacle with small time gaps, DSes and race organizers to save face, and riders in position to fight the CG out between themselves...
Dazed and Confused said:But you are penalizing these specific riders. Thats what you are suggesting. Think about it.
If everybody thinks the sporting results have been completely compromised, well then the riders involved should be removed from the GC entirely. Then we have a fair competition between the rest of the competitors.
And remember sports is not about making everybody happy. Its about getting the fairest result.
damian13ster said:Yes, but Uran was losing advantage and fading. Dont tell me that Colombians arent happy with having Quintana with over a minut on Uran and then Uran in 2nd place with over a minute on next rider?
The point still stands. Quintana gained the advantage by disobeying communication from the race radio. If there were no basis to question the fairness of this situation you wouldnt have 95% of peleton claiming rules were not the same for everyone and possibilities of protests and lawsuits
damian13ster said:Yes, but Uran was losing advantage and fading. Dont tell me that Colombians arent happy with having Quintana with over a minut on Uran and then Uran in 2nd place with over a minute on next rider?
The point still stands. Quintana gained the advantage by disobeying communication from the race radio. If there were no basis to question the fairness of this situation you wouldnt have 95% of peleton claiming rules were not the same for everyone and possibilities of protests and lawsuits
hfer07 said:...URAN has not complained
hfer07 said:...URAN has not complained
Mellow Velo said:On the other hand, Tinkoff has done nothing but complain.
Now, where does Majka come from, again?
damian13ster said:I dont hate/despise Quintana at all. Neutral toward him. What I hate and despise is a dirty play. I dont have favorites in the peleton and just cheer for my compatriots (I am Polish). I am not saying that everyone who opposes my view lacks integrity. What I am saying is that riders who break the rules, gain advantage over it, then lie through their teeth, as weel as race directors who cant own up to the mess they created lack integrity.
Angliru said:You did indicate that your opinion of him changed based on the media's dalily reporting on his crash injuries and illnesses that he was inflicted with over the course of the Giro. This I assume was your interpretation of him making excuses for his performance. Rather it was him answering questions put to him by the media. Your admission that you lost respect for him because of his supposed "whining", in addition to the blanked out expletives that are in your posts lead me to think that you're taking this controversy a bit too personal.
1.2.080 All license holders shall, in whatever capacity, participate in cycling races in a sporting and fair manner. They shall look to contribute fairly to the sporting success of the race.
1.2.081 Riders shall sportingly defend their own chances. Any collusion or behavior likely to falsify or go against the interests of the competition shall be forbidden.
jsem94 said:Pink helmet for Nairo, but regular for Majka.
MotorRouleur said:The stage is over, and so is the one after it.
The riders have long moved on and are back to racing.
Anything that needs to settled will be done on the road, with legs; not mouths.
And anyone in this thread who is still whining about the outcome is off the back and OTL. They are considered to be a loser. Maybe your mom will listen to your complaints. Maybe.