Stage 18: Belluno - Rifugio Panarotta (Valsugana) 171 km

[TANK91]

Oh hell you don't want that BigMac, it will really be bad for you on his ignore list, he is a child as he ignored me i worte to him he did not even have decency to reply he ignored me for saying stop being a sucker.

 

[christopherrowe]

Cannondale has, in fact, had a wretched tour, haven't they? Unless Viviani can somehow win on the last day, I don't see a lot they can do to salvage this race.

 

[ILovecycling]

Yes, but at that Tour he PROVED to be the best climber. Quintana didnt prove that so far. I am not saying he cant become one or prove to be such already but he didnt. And discounting yesterdays farce, it was Aru who had better combined time on mountain stages than Quintana and won a stage in much more impressive way. Yet you dont see people claiming he is the best

1st bolded

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#Giro St16 Val Martello 22.35km Quintana 59:50 Hesjedal 59:58 Rolland 61:03 Kelderman 61:45 Pozzovivo 61:50 Aru 61:53 Majka 62:21 Uran 62:24

This is not enough?If not wait for friday and saturday,he will gain at least 2 minutes combined on Uran.

2nd bolded
The feature is to recongnize it when its not obvious.You seem to not be really good at this or you dont want to risk bold predictions.

 

[BigMac]

This reminds me this brainy post lol



I wonder you are not on my ignore list as most of your posts are concentrated on dispraise and vilifying colombian riders.Its even worse than any form of hype or fanboyism.

You're constantely hyping colombian riders like there's no tomorrow. I do not see any difference by the way.

What do you mean most my posts? Look ILC, I like your posts. I really do (well not all) And you can still be redeemed in order not to become RyoHazuki v2.

PS: It is most sweet of you to have saved that post of mine.

 

[TANK91]

We may argue over who's the best climber, but at least we know who's the best descender when the race has been neutralized.

I'm kidding. Nairo won that straight up.

Im fine with his win he is a mountain Goat i love small climbers ala Pozzovivo. But what makes me think something is not right we all no most would have arrived together at the final climb anyone is joking to themselves if they thought Quintana and everyone would be on their own on the final climb so how come when their is confusion that suddenly 3 guys are clear?. Did you think we would see attacks on the Stelvio if it was hot?. I don't i think their would be guys shed off the back but no one like Quintana would have attacked that far with what is too come.

 

[BigMac]

Oh hell you don't want that BigMac, it will really be bad for you on his ignore list, he is a child as he ignored me i worte to him he did not even have decency to reply he ignored me for saying stop being a sucker.

Lol but but..

10char

 

[Publicus]

IMO they are better GT riders than Nairo thats really obvious (not only cuz of tt),but they are slightly slightly worse climbers.


I won't respond on your posts,as I read some of yours and they are so mighty ridiculous that its beyond my mind how anyone with normal level of thc and alcohol can write it,post it and publicly embarass himself.

And this is based on what exactly? I gather it is mostly the events at the 2013 TdF. So far this year, Contador has handled Nairo with (relative) ease. I'll post the head to head for them, but I'm not going to put much weight on it because Quintana was a young pup when Contador beat him about the head in 2012.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?c=7&id=137456&CompareToId=140292

Same for Froome vs Quintana.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?c=7&id=140869&CompareToId=140292

 

[Netserk]

Oh hell you don't want that BigMac, it will really be bad for you on his ignore list, he is a child as he ignored me i worte to him he did not even have decency to reply he ignored me for saying stop being a sucker.

This reminds me of a post of yours:

Wow so your blaming me because im English im meant to be as good as others sorry dude but im notas intelligent as some and i wont get into why, ok?

You don't say

 

[damian13ster]

1st bolded

This is not enough?If not wait for friday and saturday,he will gain at least 2 minutes combined on Uran.

2nd bolded
The feature is to recongnize it when its not obvious.You seem to not be really good at this or you dont want to risk bold predictions.

Yes, it is definetely not enough. Look at the gaps in his group alone. 8 seconds over Hesjedal and 73 over Rolland. Other riders rode a race between themselves so they shouldnt be considered. If you want to compare results look at the climb in stage 15 for example since they all started at the same time. Best climber in the world would most likely outdistance Hesjedal by more than 8 seconds on such a long climb.

Also, not sure what Uran is bolded for. You might make an argument he barely belongs to top 5 climbers in this race



2nd bolded: It sure as hell didnt sound as a prediction when somebody said that he is best climber in the world. It sounded awfully lot like statement of fact

 

[TANK91]

This reminds me of a post of yours:



You don't say

Oh dear what is that meant to mean. Maybe if what i was on about was his English you would have a point.

 

[TANK91]

Netserk is so intelligent he could not even hold a mod job down because no one liked him. Worst mod ever. HAHA. That is intelligent eh?

 

[ILovecycling]

You're constantely hyping colombian riders like there's no tomorrow. I do not see any difference by the way.

Its not hyping,its just stating obvious things which are regrettably not as obvious to few people. (sometimes bigger groups,sometimes smaller)

What do you mean most my posts? Look ILC, I like your posts. I really do. And you can still be redeemed in order not to become RyoHazuki v2.

Last few weeks you are a bit harsh on Quintana and I rember some of your thoughts from last year too (or point of them).I think you are not ready to fully accept huge rise of colombian cycling.I understand it but one has to be adaptive in this age (unfortunately for me too in some cases) And I have almost nothing in common with ryo,different mentality.

PS: It is most sweet of you to have saved that post of mine.

I like your posts sometimes,but this post wasnt accurate at all,thats why I remember.

 

[ILovecycling]

And this is based on what exactly? I gather it is mostly the events at the 2013 TdF. So far this year, Contador has handled Nairo with (relative) ease. I'll post the head to head for them, but I'm not going to put much weight on it because Quintana was a young pup when Contador beat him about the head in 2012.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?c=7&id=137456&CompareToId=140292

Same for Froome vs Quintana.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?c=7&id=140869&CompareToId=140292

Just personal feeling.We cant compare Alberto and Quintana too much,cuz they havent raced in topform h2h.
Froome is slightly worse climber in topform imo.He cant sustain consecutive mountain stages as Nairo (see end of Tour)
These are/were just my personal opinions,dont read much into that please

 

[damian13ster]

Just personal feeling.We cant compare Alberto and Quintana too much,cuz they havent raced in topform h2h.
Froome is slightly worse climber in topform imo.He cant sustain consecutive mountain stages as Nairo (see end of Tour)
These are/were just my personal opinions,dont read much into that please

Now you start sounding reasonable

 

[ILovecycling]

Yes, it is definetely not enough. Look at the gaps in his group alone. 8 seconds over Hesjedal and 73 over Rolland. Other riders rode a race between themselves so they shouldnt be considered. If you want to compare results look at the climb in stage 15 for example since they all started at the same time. Best climber in the world would most likely outdistance Hesjedal by more than 8 seconds on such a long climb.

Also, not sure what Uran is bolded for. You might make an argument he barely belongs to top 5 climbers in this race



2nd bolded: It sure as hell didnt sound as a prediction when somebody said that he is best climber in the world. It sounded awfully lot like statement of fact

I think that firstly you underestimated Hesjedal,when he is strong mentally he can do better efforts than what his legs are capable.
And secondly Nairo pull at least 15k.

It was a prediction,but like I said before,the art is predict something which is not obvious to others.There are great people on this forum who can do it (I dont think Im one of them,small success rate)

 

[Publicus]

Just personal feeling.We cant compare Alberto and Quintana too much,cuz they havent raced in topform h2h.
Froome is slightly worse climber in topform imo.He cant sustain consecutive mountain stages as Nairo (see end of Tour)
These are/were just my personal opinions,dont read much into that please

They've raced on similar form this year IMO, but I think I understand what you mean. I did gloss over the "IMO" in your original comment, otherwise I wouldn't have spent all that time on replying

 

[ILovecycling]

Now you start sounding reasonable

See my latest post.


Sorry to other for off topic.I will add my prediction to this stage to not to be as big villain
I think breakaway will make it.Pellizotti ftw.

Edit Publicus riders who peak for Giro never have same form like those peaking for Tour IMO

 

[damian13ster]

See my latest post.


Sorry to other for off topic.I will add my prediction to this stage to not to be as big villain
I think breakaway will make it.Pellizotti ftw.

Edit Publicus riders who peak for Giro never have same form like those peaking for Tour IMO

Really nothing in there worth responding. The style that original post to which I responded was written indicates that it was statement of fact. Not maybe, probably, will become, etc.

I did underestimate Hesjedal before the race surely, but now you are overestimating him a lot by stating that beating him by 8 seconds somehow makes a rider best climber in the world.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Netserk is so intelligent he could not even hold a mod job down because no one liked him. Worst mod ever. HAHA. That is intelligent eh?

are all intelligent people likeable? Smartest guy I know is a real ******bag


btw I like Netserk

 

[Arredondo]

Just personal feeling.We cant compare Alberto and Quintana too much,cuz they havent raced in topform h2h.
Froome is slightly worse climber in topform imo.He cant sustain consecutive mountain stages as Nairo (see end of Tour)
These are/were just my personal opinions,dont read much into that please

Come on, Froome was already 5 minutes in the lead.

Quintana belongs to the best climbers in the world. But to say he is already better than Froome is too early. In the future he will of course.

 

[ILovecycling]

Really nothing in there worth responding. The style that original post to which I responded was written indicates that it was statement of fact. Not maybe, probably, will become, etc.

I did underestimate Hesjedal before the race surely, but now you are overestimating him a lot by stating that beating him by 8 seconds somehow makes a rider best climber in the world.

Your problem is that you are trying to read my mind according to written text,thats not a good idea.

bolded: I have never said that.This makes him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WAWnCwiQTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18C1ecklcE

 

[ILovecycling]

Come on, Froome was already 5 minutes in the lead.

Quintana belongs to the best climbers in the world. But to say he is already better than Froome is too early. In the future he will of course.

He could lose Tour,overhyped Alpe d huez was stage 18 not 21 .I dont buy that.

 

[Arredondo]

He could lose Tour,overhyped Alpe d huez was stage 18 not 21.

Based on his perfomance on Ventoux and Ax 3 Domaines, that was a bad day of course. Quintana definitely was on par in the third week. But to say he's already the better climber in top form? I don't know about that.

Too bad we have to wait another year to find out. But by then Quintana should be better.

 

[postmanhat]

Is Niemiec ill?

Terrible Giro for him otherwise so far. Looks like a pretty good stage for him if he has any form

 

[Arredondo]

Is Niemiec ill?

Terrible Giro for him otherwise so far. Looks like a pretty good stage for him if he has any form

Hurt his ribs due to crash in the first week. He was never able to recover well, and if you can't recover, you're dead in a GT.