Stage 19: Bassano Del Grappa - Cima Grappa 26.8 km MTT

[yespatterns]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&r...nzxo8ndlBNgy-avWyU2YVIqw&ust=1401471637109503

Perhaps?

That's pretty awful. He looks like a salty old ******* yelling at kids to stay off of his grass, or to not be "always after me lucky charms!". Swear to god, he has to have a pot of gold hidden somewhere.

 

[BigMac]

Evans will take back his Maglia Rosa.

If he fails, I hope Urán does it.

If he too fails, I hope...

 

[Bavarianrider]

this is definitely tougher than that sierra nevada itt crushed by santi perez in 2004. any mountain itt's harder than this one i wonder?

Morzine Avoriaz 1994. Frankly the climb is flatter but it was frikin 46km long.
In 1988 or so they had a 30km + TT up the Ventoux
Grenoble- Chamrouse wasn't exactly easy either. Flatter but 6km longer.

 

[Netserk]

Does anybody have the first intermediate times of the Barolo ITT?
Top10 GC riders if possible.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...97N4pqCCuUhUvyFwGHVc3k1rw/edit#gid=1529667440

00:21:13 POZZOVIVO Domenico
00:21:28 URAN URAN Rigoberto
00:21:39 ARU Fabio
00:21:40 ULISSI Diego
00:21:51 POELS Wouter
00:21:53 MAJKA Rafal
00:21:58 QUINTANA Nairo
00:22:03 DE GENDT Thomas
00:22:06 EVANS Cadel
00:22:09 KELDERMAN Wilco
00:22:20 HERRADA Jose'
00:22:21 BRAMBILLA Gianluca
00:22:23 SIUTSOU Kanstantsin
00:22:27 PIRAZZI Stefano
00:22:27 GRETSCH Patrick
00:22:28 KISERLOVSKI Robert
00:22:29 LUDVIGSSON Tobias
00:22:29 RABOTTINI Matteo
00:22:31 HESJEDAL Ryder
00:22:33 ROLLAND Pierre

 

[phanatic]

Pozzo
Quintana
Uran



basically after this stage, Quintana will be 100% securing the Maglia Rosa while the podium will be up for grasp between Uran, Rolland & Aru.

If Pozzo wins this, he'll likely finish first or second overall, and no way he misses the podium. There will be big time gaps here. This MTT and the Zoncolan may be the best situation Pozzo will ever have to win a GT. I doubt he can beat Quintana, but he has a real good chance at making the podium.

 

[The Hitch]

Moving on toe one of the more brutal tt's in recent years

Fixed it for you.


This is going to be insane. Nairo to win by 2 minutes to 3rd place.

 

[Jspear]

Quintana for the win....don't really know if he can pull it off, but that sure would be nice.

 

[hfer07]

this is definitely tougher than that sierra nevada itt crushed by santi perez in 2004. any mountain itt's harder than this one i wonder?

2008 Plan de Corones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRqlc7aCrY

 

[icefire]

this is definitely tougher than that sierra nevada itt crushed by santi perez in 2004. any mountain itt's harder than this one i wonder?

Definitely the 36kms ITT to Mt Ventoux in 1987. There were 4 Colombians in top 10

 

[Bavarianrider]

2008 Plan de Corones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRqlc7aCrY

Not even close.
Tomorrow riders will have to ride on the limit more than 30% longer.

 

[Cookster15]

Not even close.
Tomorrow riders will have to ride on the limit more than 30% longer.

Yes Mont Grappa is longer but Plan de Corones was a much much steeper MTT. No contest on that point.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-ditalia-2010/stage-16

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yes Mont Grappa is longer but Plan de Corones was a much much steeper MTT. No contest on that point.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-ditalia-2010/stage-16

Not just about extreme gradient.
1100 vertical metres as opposed to 1600,(40% more) tomorrow.

 

[Cookster15]

Not just about extreme gradient.
1100 vertical metres as opposed to 1600,(40% more) tomorrow.

Ouch !!

 

[Bavarianrider]

Yes Mont Grappa is longer but Plan de Corones was a much much steeper MTT. No contest on that point.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-ditalia-2010/stage-16

60 minutes all out on Grappa is way harder than 40 minutes on Kronplatz, no contest there.

 

[ILovecycling]

Sure! It'll be fun! Ill have to back check your post's to figure out what will be the most embarrasing image XD

As you are a rookie in avatar bets I give you a good tip

Favourite rider: Deignan, Aru, P.Rolland, Mick Rogers, J.Voigt, A.Schleck and EBH

Foe: Definitely Ryder Hesjedal, B.Swift

Edit:altough imo you will lose,cuz Pierre is gone crack this top 10

 

[Bavarianrider]

Long MTT have always created huge gaps in recent history, let's hope tomorrow isn't a difference.

2004 Vuelta a Espana. Granada- Sierra Nevada 29,6km

Santi Perez goes ballistic. Look at gaps

Results

1 Santiago Perez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.02.29 (28.42 km/h)
2 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 1.07
3 Roberto Heras (Spa) Liberty Seguros 1.51
4 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 3.06
5 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto 3.18
6 Carlos Garcia Quesada (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 3.24
7 Angel Gomez (Spa) Paternina-Costa De Almeria 3.59
8 David Blanco (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 4.00
9 Isidro Nozal (Spa) Liberty Seguros 4.24
10 Javier Pascual Rodriguez (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 4.28
11 Ivan Parra (Col) Cafes Baque 4.30
12 Hernan Buenahora (Col) Cafes Baque 4.31
13 Marcos Serrano (Spa) Liberty Seguros 4.45
14 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 4.47
15 Jorge Ferrio (Spa) Paternina-Costa De Almeria 5.05
16 Eladio Jimenez (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 5.07
17 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Vini Caldirola-Nobili Rubinetterie 5.10
18 Luis Perez (Spa) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 5.21
19 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Fassa Bortolo 5.23
20 Samuel Sanchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.24
21 Dario David Cioni (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 5.40
22 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) Phonak Hearing Systems 5.48
23 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 5.53
24 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal Service p/b Berry Floor 5.55
25 José Enrique Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 6.15
26 Unai Osa (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto
27 Peio Arreitunandia (Spa) Cafes Baque 6.17
28 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Saeco 6.21
29 Francisco Garcia (Spa) Cafes Baque 6.42
30 Constantino Zaballa (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 7.05


2004 Dauphine Libere Bedoin- Mt. Ventoux 21,6km

The legendary TT up the Ventoux, Mayo goes stratospheric, Phonak witha decent team result Armstrong destroys Mayos career becuase of this result


Results

1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 55.51.49 (23.202 km/h)
2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.35.26
3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.03.09
4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon 1.48.44
5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor 1.57.89
6 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.22.75
7 José Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.44.09
8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank 3.21.18
9 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank 3.33.38
10 Stéphane Goubert (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance 3.35.81
11 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 3.55.55
12 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 3.59.03
13 Cyril Dessel (Fra) Phonak Hearing Systems 4.03.20
14 Floyd Landis (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor 4.09.14
15 José Azevedo (Por) US Postal presented by Berry Floor 4.18.24
16 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Credit Agricole 4.37.09
17 Michael Rogers (Aus) Quick.Step-Davitamon 4.44.95
18 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 5.08.52
19 Sandy Casar (Fra) FDJeux.com 5.29.49
20 Victor Hugo Pena (Col) US Postal presented by Berry Floor 5.29.88
21 Iker Camano (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.31.00
22 Jean-Cyril Robin (Fra) FDJeux.com 5.33.97
23 Pierrick Fedrigo (Fra) Credit Agricole 5.44.60
24 Iker Flores (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.51.57
25 Thomas Lövkvist (Swe) FDJeux.com 6.05.39
26 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) Ag2R Prevoyance 6.23.80
27 Yuriy Krivtsov (Ukr) Ag2R Prevoyance 6.26.17
28 Egoi Martinez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6.42.58
29 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 6.43.87
30 Thomas Voeckler (Fra) Brioches La Boulangere 6.47.88


2001 Tour de France Grenoble- Chamrousse

This was especially hard as it came one day after the legendary and brutal 2001Alpe d Huez stage

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 1.07.27 (28.47 km/h)
2 Jan Ullrich (Ger) Telekom 1.00
3 Joseba Beloki (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 1.35
4 Roberto Laiseka (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.03
5 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.24
6 Igor Gonzalez De Galdeano (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 2.31
7 Santiago Botero (Col) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.43
8 Christophe Moreau (Fra) Festina 3.00
9 Sven Montgomery (Swi) Française Des Jeux 3.07
10 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Mapei-Quick Step 3.08
11 Didier Rous (Fra) Bonjour 3.46
12 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Telekom 3.48
13 José Enrique Gutierrez (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 3.51
14 Inigo Chaureau (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 4.01
15 Inigo Cuesta (Spa) Cofidis 4.03
16 Felix Rafael Cardenas (Col) Kelme-Costa Blanca 4.10
17 Carlos Sastre (Spa) ONCE-Eroski 4.13
18 Laurent Jalabert (Fra) CSC - Tiscali 4.19
19 Andreas Klöden (Ger) Telekom 4.28
20 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 4.31
21 Jonathan Vaughters (USA) Credit Agricole 4.31
22 Alberto Lopez De Munain (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 4.49
23 Thomas Brozyna (Pol) iBanesto.com 5.05
24 Denis Mentchov (Rus) iBanesto.com 5.07
25 Bradley McGee (Aus) Française Des Jeux 5.09
26 David Moncoutié (Fra) Cofidis 5.36
27 Javier Pascual Rodriguez (Spa) iBanesto.com 5.37
28 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) iBanesto.com 5.40
29 Felix Garcia-Casas (Spa) Festina 6.01


1994 Tour de France Cluses- Morzine Avoriaz 47km The mother of all MTT
Ugrumov out of this world

1. Piotr Ugramov: 1hr 22min 59sec
2. Marco Pantani @ 1min 38sec
3. Miguel Indurain @ 3min 16sec
4. Luc Leblanc @ 3min 50sec
5. Charly Mottet @ 4min 12sec
6. Enrico Zaina @ 4min 17sec
7. Vladimir Poulnikov @ 4min 26sec
8. Jean-François Bernard @ 4min 31sec
9. Alex Zulle @ 4min 49sec
10. Roberto Conti @ 4min 54se

 

[yespatterns]

As you are a rookie in avatar bets I give you a good tip



Edit:altough imo you will lose,cuz Pierre is gone crack this top 10

I dont doubt his ability on a good day, but he's been burning matches non-stop in the mountains. I just question whether he can persevere tommorrow (and/or on zoncolan).

But thanks for the avatar tip

 

[deValtos]

What kind of time is the winner expected to do ? Presumably over the hour ?

 

[Bavarianrider]

What kind of time is the winner expected to do ? Presumably over the hour ?

Yeah, don't think anyone will break the hour, though Quintana might get very close

 

[Frosty]

OGE have two riders left, sitting second last and third last on GC. Will they make the time cut tomorrow? I think they will but it could be a close one?

 

[Bavarianrider]

OGE have two riders left, sitting second last and third last on GC. Will they make the time cut tomorrow? I think they will but it could be a close one?

Isn't the time limit like 25% in TT like this. There isn't really any danger to miss the cut for a pro.

 

[gerundium]

Yeah, don't think anyone will break the hour, though Quintana might get very close

7 flat km's: 9 minutes. (~47 km/h. No TT bike so lower speeds)
1530 meters of altitude gain. Assuming a (high end) VAM of 1700 m/h for the winnier We can guess roughly 54 minutes for the climb up Monte Grappa.

Winner should ride roughly ~63 minutes. Due to length of the climb i wonder if 1700 m/h is attainable. Could end up with a winners time slightly higher more along the line of 65 minutes.

 

[Frosty]

Isn't the time limit like 25% in TT like this. There isn't really any danger to miss the cut for a pro.

Its a generous time cut yes but 6 missed it in the 2008 giro TT up to Plan de Corones. I would have thought the lesser gradient here would help people, also today's stage was less severe IMO than the stage preceding the 2008 TT was, and the flat first few kms tomorrow may also just help some of the slower riders out too. Still can't be ruled out though. We'll see.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2008//giro08/?id=results/giro0816

 

[Bavarianrider]

7 flat km's: 9 minutes. (~47 km/h. No TT bike so lower speeds)
1530 meters of altitude gain. Assuming a (high end) VAM of 1700 m/h for the winnier We can guess roughly 54 minutes for the climb up Monte Grappa.

Winner should ride roughly ~63 minutes. Due to length of the climb i wonder if 1700 m/h is attainable. Could end up with a winners time slightly higher more along the line of 65 minutes.

Fair enough, you are right seems like it'll be closer to 65 minutes than an hour.

 

[He-manuelle Sella]

Not just about extreme gradient.
1100 vertical metres as opposed to 1600,(40% more) tomorrow.

It is truly a monster of a climb! Here is the start of the climb as it leaves Semonzo on Googlemaps Street View...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@45.8...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1szA8kTw0o4ovai7qKXmncgA!2e0

Follow the road by clicking through and as you can see it just keeps going and going and going and going... ... ...