Stage 19: Friday, May 25: Treviso-Alpe di Pampeago. 198km

[Dedelou]

my thoughts tommorow, ryder wont be gapped much if at all by basso, j.rod could go either way and maybe crack, pozz will give something a go and lash at it.

And Scarponi? He is going to be out of the Race?

 

[Havetts]

I think that Pozzovivo will decide the winner of this giro! He will not win... but will make big damage between the favorites... you will see!

My thoughts exactly. If he is let go, then hes going to win the stage. If people start responding to him and his actions, they could possibly crack epically, just look at the last 500 meters of the Giau and the same could happen but with bigger consequences..

 

[DenisMenchov]

When are they supposed to reach the summit of Manghen??

 

[Pippo_San]

When are they supposed to reach the summit of Manghen??

http://www.gazzetta.it/static_images/ciclismo/giroditalia/2012/pdf/doc_crono/T19_crono.pdf

 

[DenisMenchov]

http://www.gazzetta.it/static_images/ciclismo/giroditalia/2012/pdf/doc_crono/T19_crono.pdf

Thanks Pippo, I'll be home just at time to see second part of the stage.

 

[greenedge]

Yeah. This happened in the Tour of Pologne 2 years back. The grupetto had to wait on the side of the road to let the leaders pass. Check the stage Mollema won it happened there

Was the amount of time the Grupperto stopped for accounted for ( or through blunders was it not counted as stopping time )?

 

[wirral]

Not really any possibilty unless Guardini takes it really really easy, especially as any riders being caught in such fashion would certainly finish outside the time limit X2

Not quite.

Time limit today will be around 55 minutes. On high mountain stages, it is a flat 15% of the winner's time.

 

[wirral]

It's not over. If Basso and Pozzovivo both put time into JRod tomorrow, he'd get a maximum of 16 points. He might in turn try attacking the next day and finally have an off day by overcooking himself, and he then got passed by at least 4 cyclists he would get only 12 points and still be 1 point behind Cav.

I know everyone has been complaining about the parcours, but I'm actually really enjoying the fact that everything is still on the line, with just enough action in the first two weeks to give hints about who is good, but nothing definitive. We still don't know who is the strongest man in the race.

Good analysis.

Also, as there are no time bonuses, a group of 10 GC men may come across with the same time. JRod may deliberately not compete for the red jersey. Red for Cav.

On another point, if Cav can top 15 in the time trial on the last day, he can pick up some more points.

Great point about the whingers. Some people don't appreciate subtlety and nuance.

 

[wirral]

Cav has at least one intermediate stage win, on stage 18. Does Purito have any? I shouldn't think so.

 

[eljimberino]

POZZOVIVO and Rujano to ride away. Basso to crack Ryder.

 

[Random Direction]

Who can forget Hushovd teach Cav how to win a Maglia Verde and going for intermediates in the 2009 TdF, Stage 17: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg0waE1B-PQ? Cav didn't.

 

[jobiwan]

WOO!!! Excited for this one and Saturday! I hope Ryder can pull it off but no matter what it will be a crazy finale!

 

[maxmartin]

Go Rider!!
Hanging there with all the other favorites, beat them in TT, make them eat their own words

 

[Cervelo77]

Ouch

So, this stage should hurt. Liquigas should try to kill everyone. Basso will get that expression on his face that indicates he is in a lot of pain or in need of a bathroom. I hope Ryder can hold on over these next two stages, but it's no cake walk.

 

[meat puppet]

Well, it would obviously be awesome if Ryder pulled it off. And not only sporting-wise. That would also serve right both the big stars and the candy-pandy fans here complaining about the stars not shining.

Also, should Jrod steal Cav's jersey - how cool would that be? Something to cry about.

Every time a designated favorite gets shafted - on the road, mind - it's more than cool. It's vital for the sport that otherwise risks getting stale.

 

[macnir]

What about those second-tier contenders?Nieve will attack,as well as Gadret.Rujano will if he managed to find his form.Roman K continues to suffer?
And interesting to see how Uranium/Intxausti/De Gendt can guard their satisfying position.

 

[Ripper]

Here's the deal - Basso's game is Hesjedal's game. The long grind suits his riding style. So, while it is possible Ryder will crack, it is not probable. He's looking pretty solid and looks like he might have had his bad day (or 2). Of course, the next 2 stages are so brutal that if anyone is a touch weak, they'll pull a Roman

Actually, what would be cool is if they rode pretty much wheel to wheel to the top.

I actually like the top 3. Scarponi is lacking the same sharpness this year. Of course, I would love to see Hesjedal win the race.

 

[ultimobici]

We have lost Contador.
We have lost Zomegnam.
We all knew that this Giro would be different to its predecessors.
But did we all think it would be this different?
Mountains stages have been boring.
Tactics archaic and uncomplex.
The racing has been non existent.

The funny thing is that the occasions that the race has visited before are all from the dodgiest era. What we are seeing today is more akin to the way of racing pre EPO. Measured efforts, watching your opponents & waiting for the precise moment when an attack will result in the most damage.

 

[Tigerion]

I've got a bit of a question.
Since the riders are going up Pampeago twice I suppose there is a chance/risk that the riders in the front will catch some of the riders in the back. What would happen then?
Is there even a possibility that the front riders will start their second ascent before the grupetto even starts its first?

If they did every rider that was caught would get taken out of the race. At least that is what happens in a one day race.
I remember in the worlds at Geelong the prospect that the break away had enough time to complete the first lap before the peloton got to the circuit. Think they had about a 15 min gap with estimates of about 12 minutes to complete a lap.
Had that happened we would have had the worlds effectively raced by a dozen riders.

 

[wirral]

If they did every rider that was caught would get taken out of the race. At least that is what happens in a one day race.
I remember in the worlds at Geelong the prospect that the break away had enough time to complete the first lap before the peloton got to the circuit. Think they had about a 15 min gap with estimates of about 12 minutes to complete a lap.
Had that happened we would have had the worlds effectively raced by a dozen riders.

I thought of that. That would have been totally brilliant.

 

[miha1234]

When will live feed/stream start today?

 

[Lexman]

What about those second-tier contenders?Nieve will attack,as well as Gadret.Rujano will if he managed to find his form.Roman K continues to suffer?
And interesting to see how Uranium/Intxausti/De Gendt can guard their satisfying position.

De Gent will lose time question is will he collapse of be able to ride his own tempo and limit the losses, he was never in this situation before

 

[Danilot]

When will live feed/stream start today?

13:30 CET (Madrid, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam time).

 

[hrotha]

The funny thing is that the occasions that the race has visited before are all from the dodgiest era. What we are seeing today is more akin to the way of racing pre EPO. Measured efforts, watching your opponents & waiting for the precise moment when an attack will result in the most damage.

This tells me you never watched or read about racing in the pre-EPO days.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Interesting to see what Tira can pull of today.