Tour de France Stage 4: Amiens – Rouen (174.2k)

[CatchyH]

Then Pogacar waited until the hardest part was over. Here he had his team pace for 25km to set up this attack. Then when Vingegaard seemed to crack, he actually came back. Last year when he bonked he was just gone.

Vingegaard has gained back some muscle mass since then so it's not surprising, plus i think he's underrated on climbs like this.

 

[Tymek]

We might get Pogi in Green tomorrow 👀

 

[Red Rick]

Vingegaard has gained back some muscle mass since then so it's not surprising, plus i think he's underrated on climbs like this.

Definitely underrated yeah. He's always been pretty explosive especially on steeper gradients.

 

[Kazistuta]

I have to say about DSM (formley) but now Postal Picnic they know how to spot and encourage young talent ..So many riders can be great with them , then leave and do nothing

Who do you think of when saying they did great with DSM, but didn't after leaving?

 

[fenns]

pog needs to start working on his punch again,cant drop vinge on short climbs anymore,lol.

Jonas gave everything cos he knew the summit was 200m away. If it's 2k away things might be different.

 

[theyoungest]

Who here actually believed that Tadej can drop Jonas on this hill? What I saw today is enough for me to know what's up.

Actually, what we could see is that Tadej couldn't keep up his attack long enough. Vingegaard has seen this and next time he will bite through the pain a little longer to stay on the wheel.

Of course on the longer climbs Tadej doesn't get out of the saddle anymore in his attacks and it becomes a different ballgame, he has just become a different rider there than 2-3 years ago.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

What do you mean by that? Pogi evidently couldn't drop Vingegaard on that climb.

I don't think he was aware he had a gap, but that doesn't mean he could have kept sprinting all the way to the top. Anyway, the race wouldn't have been decided here regardless.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Would like to see the replay of when he was dropped on the climb. If seemed slightly bizarre how he was momentarily dropped then rode back up to Pog quite easily before the top.

Initially I thought he had blown up completely.

He looked to the right as if something was wrong. I thought for a second he had chain/gear problems.

 

[RobertCrawley]

20 mile time trail tomorrow. Should be really good

 

[kingjr]

Actually, what we could see is that Tadej couldn't keep up his attack long enough. Vingegaard has seen this and next time he will bite through the pain a little longer to stay on the wheel.

Of course on the longer climbs Tadej doesn't get out of the saddle anymore in his attacks and it becomes a different ballgame, he has just become a different rider there than 2-3 years ago.

The attack was very, very long though, it needs to be said

 

[AnotherArmChair]

Who do you think of when saying they did great with DSM, but didn't after leaving?

Marc Hirschi , SK Anderson, Warren Baguil , Lenny Kemna

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Marc Hirschi , SK Anderson, Warren Baguil , Lenny Kemna

All of these were before it was even called DSM so at least five years ago, and Kämna is also just clearly false

 

[Rob5091]

Roglic 1min 27 seconds down on GC already ... oh dear.
If UAE did not want Pogi in the spotty jersey tomorrow, then they really messed up.

 

[scribers]

Roglic 1min 27 seconds down on GC already ... oh dear.
If UAE did not want Pogi in the spotty jersey tomorrow, then they really messed up.

Polka jersey on pogi sponsored by Lenny Martinez

 

[kingjr]

Marc Hirschi , SK Anderson, Warren Baguil , Lenny Kemna

All of Kämna's wins were when he was with Bora...

 

[awavey]

I don't think he was aware he had a gap, but that doesn't mean he could have kept sprinting all the way to the top. Anyway, the race wouldn't have been decided here regardless.

Surely his DS was screaming over the radio about it ? I kind of felt that's why he eased back a bit which might have been a mistake

 

[Devil's Elbow]

All of Kämna's wins were when he was with Bora...

And Barguil has returned to the team and only gotten worse.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Familiar sight!

 

[QueenStagiaire]

And Barguil has returned to the team and only gotten worse.

To be fair, that sometimes happens on the wrong side of 30.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Pogacar was a bit cooked and slowed down
Vingegaard got cooked then sped up
Pogacar thought Vingegaard was dropped and eased into a rhythm
Vingegaard had a little mechanical and dropped a bit

Pick 1 based on who you like, I don't think it tells us much for the mountains other than the top 2 are in great condition as expected.

 

[ExperienPT]

1 T. POGACAR
2 J. VINGEGAARD 8s
3 M. JORGANESSON 19s
4 K. VAUQUELIN 26s
5 E. MAS 48s
6 O. ONLEY 55s
7 J. ALMEIDA 55s
8 R. EVENPOEL 58S
9 M. SKELMOJE 1:02
10 T. JOHANSEN 1.17
11 P. ROGLIC 1.27
12 G. MARTIN 1.49
13 S. BUITRAGO 1.49
14 F. GALL 1.49
15 F. LIPOWITZ 1.49
16 C. RODRIGUEZ 2.05
17 E. BUCHMANN 2.16
18 B. OCONNOR 2.36

Fight for TOP 10 right now!

 

[Tymek]

Pogi might get Yellow, Green and Polka D.O.T. jerseys tomorrow.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Definitely underrated yeah. He's always been pretty explosive especially on steeper gradients.

Too bad he never does Ardennes classics. He's really good on short & steep climbs.

 

[Sciatic]

Both Almeida and Jorgensson both rode so well

For a moment I thought he might let Jorgenson go, but he had plenty left in the tank,

 

[Lequack]

Roglic clearly tactically losing time to be more of an underdog and they don't watch him.