Tour de France Stage 4: Amiens – Rouen (174.2k)

[Berniece]

That's steep for 800m and it will feel longer because of the sprint to the base, and then the first steep 400m will probably be a sprint leadout to the chicane.

I don't think it's 800m. I mean you've got the first part around 300m with what 4% average? Then 400m of really steep climbing, but only 400m. And then the last part at 6%.

 

[noob]

What is it with these awkward nerdy DS? (Just watching Hauptman)

 

[RobertCrawley]

What is it with these awkward nerdy DS? (Just watching Hauptman)

Pogi's buddy.

 

[Pogabike]

Meeus is both in and out, and Wellness (stupid autocorrect) has probably already been dropped according to PCS.

Schrodingers Meeus > Schrodingers cat

 

[Devil's Elbow]

If Pogacar drops everyone, they'll all work together to get him back. I don't see Pogacar finishing solo here.

This is an... interesting conclusion to draw from the past couple of years.

 

[Rob5091]

So if Pogacar wanted to get rid of the KOM jersey yesterday, how will he not retake it today if he fights for the win?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm still putting my money on MVDP. That last hill is only steep for 400m. The rest is fine. How much time can one really take there? If Vingegaard follows Pogacar, he won't work with him. If Pogacar drops everyone, they'll all work together to get him back. I don't see Pogacar finishing solo here.

It's about 800 m at like 11% (with super tough finish) after already uphill section and a turn (initial speed won't be high). Plus total elevation gain is 120+ m. IMO this climb is around MVP's limit. I think if Pogacar & Vingegaard fully engage they can drop MVP here but the margin will be small and the Dutch can still win (depending on circumstances/cooperation/downhill type etc).

 

[RobertCrawley]

So if Pogacar wanted to get rid of the KOM jersey yesterday, how will he not retake it today if he fights for the win?

He'd take yellow if he wins by 6 seconds over Mathieu. Are there time bonuses too?

 

[Rob5091]

TT tomorrow, breakaway win today?

 

[Red Rick]

This is an... interesting conclusion to draw from the past couple of years.

It should be accurate based on the situation alone though. Van der Poel and Vingegaard would 100% chase. Evenepoel too if he isn't completely fried from the climb.

The only problem is really how bad the terrain is for a short chase.

 

[Rob5091]

He'd take yellow if he wins by 6 seconds over Mathieu. Are there time bonuses too?

Yep, 10, 6 & 4 as per normal.

 

[fenns]

betting for today's stage:

MVDP 31%
Pog 28%
Vauquelin 7%
Gregoire 5%
Ving 4%
Wout 3%

Wout looks a bet - he'd be a lot shorter if it weren't for his team duties.

 

[Berniece]

It's about 800 m at like 11% (with super tough finish) after already uphill section and a turn (initial speed won't be high). Plus total elevation gain is 120+ m. IMO this climb is around MVP's limit. I think if Pogacar & Vingegaard fully engage they can drop MVP here but the margin will be small and the Dutch can still win (depending on circumstances/cooperation/downhill type etc).

I keep misreading the graph. I thought it was only 400m.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Pogi's buddy.

🤫

 

[Lequack]

Surely Wout means he is going to lead out Vingegaard. Wouldn't want his wife to get even more angry.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942546007700426819

View: https://x.com/vismaleaseabike/status/1942546007700426819

 

[noob]

Pogi's buddy.

Watching cycling as a neurodivergent sometimes make me think they were all produced in the same factory

 

[RobertCrawley]

Surely Wout means he is going to lead out Vingegaard. Wouldn't want his wife to get even more angry.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942546007700426819

View: https://x.com/vismaleaseabike/status/1942546007700426819

Selfish.

 

[noob]

🤫

OMG are you insinuating he's cheating on Jonas and Remco with a DS?

Spoiler

(sometimes I like to laugh)

 

[noob]

Agreeing with Cofidis DS! It's unfair.

 

[noob]

Now why no attacks??

Oh 2 people

 

[Filippo_3467]

The definition of collective stupidity. I don't know why the teams even have a DS if they just can't make a move to at least try to compete in this race.

 

[Heston]

Surely Wout means he is going to lead out Vingegaard. Wouldn't want his wife to get even more angry.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942546007700426819

View: https://x.com/vismaleaseabike/status/1942546007700426819

Jonas also said they are giving Wout the chance today. Which seems crazy if they are trying to win the Tour and beat Pogacar.

You dont see UAE saying they are riding for an Almeida stage win today. Visma always unable to focus properly.

 

[noob]

This is just weird.

 

[Berniece]

Jonas also said they are giving Wout the chance today. Which seems crazy if they are trying to win the Tour and beat Pogacar.

You dont see UAE saying they are riding for an Almeida stage win today. Visma always unable to focus properly.

There's a cost to be made when you have WVA in your team. He'll do whatever he can for his leader, but he also needs his own chances sometimes. Or you can see him ride in a different jersey for another team.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Another 15 teams fancying their chances on this finale. Thomas Gigachad the right idea.