Stage 5 Châteauneuf-du-Pape -> La Montagne de Lure 176 km, Friday 8th March

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Aug 19, 2011
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El Pistolero said:
The problem people have with Sky is their domestiques were mostly worthless before joining Sky(their leaders as well). Rogers for example hadn't climbed like that anymore since 2006.

Rogers won Tour of Cal. and Ruta del Sol, podiumed Romandie and Crit International in 2010 (HTC) so he wasn't so slow in the climbs
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Still it happens to much to Gesink, so I've adjusted my Giro hopes to just the following, be healthy and race well for 3 weeks. Nothing else.
 
May 28, 2012
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Still it happens to much to Gesink, so I've adjusted my Giro hopes to just the following, be healthy and race well for 3 weeks. Nothing else.

What is racing well in your opinion? Lower top 10? That seems reasonable to me, if he does that he's right where he belongs.
 
Jul 14, 2009
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Geraint Too Fast said:
Just noticed Löfkvist finished over 14 minutes down today. Anybody know what happened there?

he got caught behind the big crash that took out Coppel(?) even before the 2nd last climb, and couldn't get back on the pack....
 
Jun 3, 2012
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Hivert finished 11th 46' down on porte. I didn't think could climb that well in longer climbs.
 
Jul 7, 2012
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perhaps the people insinuating about SKY could suggest what is making them perform so well on these mountain stages....?
 
Dec 30, 2009
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willbick said:
perhaps the people insinuating about SKY could suggest what is making them perform so well on these mountain stages....?

They could but not on this forum. Go check the Sky thread in the Clinic.
 
Oct 23, 2011
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Hmmmm Gesink saying he's sick and felt terrible at todays last climb....

Which begs the question...

If you're sick and feel terrible, why do you attack?
 
Jul 7, 2012
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funny how people cast aspertions about SKY yet AFAIK NONE of their performances have EVER shown a suspiciously high watts/kg number. but who cares about hard facts when it is so much easier to just waffle rubbish?
 
Aug 19, 2011
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willbick said:
funny how people cast aspertions about SKY yet AFAIK NONE of their performances have EVER shown a suspiciously high watts/kg number. but who cares about hard facts when it is so much easier to just waffle rubbish?

well said
and Porte time on Montagne de Lure was 53 sec slower than Contador in 2009
 
Jul 16, 2010
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pastronef said:
well said
and Porte time on Montagne de Lure was 53 sec slower than Contador in 2009

And 5 seconds faster than Frank Schleck and Luis Leon Sanchez in 2009. ;)

Whatever happened to those 2 riders?
 
May 20, 2009
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El Pistolero said:
The problem people have with Sky is their domestiques were mostly worthless before joining Sky(their leaders as well). Rogers for example hadn't climbed like that anymore since 2006.
David Walsh doesn't agree with you. :eek:
 
Mar 17, 2012
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Glad that the Quintana hype might finally be over, now people are switching to the Porte hype.

It was great racing today, no doubt about that, and I liked it much more than the Contador P-N shows on Lure or Mende or whereever, but let´s not forget the startlist in this year´s P-N isn´t so special anyways, and some of these who started are quite disappointing: Fuglsang quitted, Basso lacks shape, Gesink has problems, and so on.

We don´t know more about Porte than we knew after Malhao in February 2012.

What makes P-N interesting nevertheless is the scenery and the spring there in Southern France, that winter is over, and the race is quite open, though Porte seems to win this edition now almost for sure.
 
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RHRH19861986 said:
Glad that the Quintana hype might finally be over, now people are switching to the Porte hype.

It was great racing today, no doubt about that, and I liked it much more than the Contador P-N shows on Lure or Mende or whereever, but let´s not forget the startlist in this year´s P-N isn´t so special anyways, and some of these who started are quite disappointing: Fuglsang quitted, Basso lacks shape, Gesink has problems, and so on.

We don´t know more about Porte than we knew after Malhao in February 2012.

What makes P-N interesting nevertheless is the scenery and the spring there in Southern France, that winter is over, and the race is quite open, though Porte seems to win this edition now almost for sure.

What those matter ?

Fuglsang is not a factor at all.

Basso is not a factor to win such stage race.

Gesink didn't have any problems, he just was bad today.

Not saying the competition was great, but Porte did the best he could do here, but I honestly dont see people overrating him here or something.
 
May 4, 2011
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
Hmmmm Gesink saying he's sick and felt terrible at todays last climb....

Which begs the question...

If you're sick and feel terrible, why do you attack?

Two days ago the excuse of the day was "bad positioning," while he was clearly climbing very poorly already. But no mention of that, of/c. I don't think he's gotten much worse since then, honestly. He was no top-20 material then either. Same yesterday.
 
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Basso is the kind of rider who needs lots of racing days to get to good shape. It was his first race of the season. I really don't know what people were expecting from him.
 
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Gloin22 said:
Not saying the competition was great, but Porte did the best he could do here, but I honestly dont see people overrating him here or something.

Not here, but some consider him (Porte) to be stronger in the mountains that Wiggins for the Giro... ;)
 
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RHRH19861986 said:
Not here, but some consider him (Porte) to be stronger in the mountains that Wiggins for the Giro... ;)

Porte leaving Wiggins behind in the mountains is just something we all want to see happen... doesn't mean we actually think it will happen. We can always hope though...
 
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wwabbit said:
Porte leaving Wiggins behind in the mountains is just something we all want to see happen... doesn't mean we actually think it will happen. We can always hope though...

wiggo will be 10x stronger in il giro than richie is now
wait for catalunya
 

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Mar 29, 2011
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What is normal for favorite riders is strongly unacceptable for riders you dislike...Even some statistic comparisons followed. It was a beautiful deserved victory. Deal with it!!!
 
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Great victory for Porte, clever as well, which is more than those who expected the others in their group to do the chasing, (I will let Talansky off as he did his turns), but the rest just wanted Talansky to pull them back on his own.