Stage 8: Station des Rousses - Morzine-Avoriaz 189km

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May 13, 2009
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editedbymod said:
Come Tuesday he'll do a Floyd and win by 12 minutes.

He would have to be covered from head to toe with patches, also top off with every bag he has, spin it to a % which would make Bjarne look bleak, invent macrodosing and speed up the donations.

Nah, he's done.
 
May 15, 2010
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Susan Westemeyer said:
Why are you saying welcome? You had nothing to do with it.

Susan

no kidding. no matter how many posts I report there seems to be almost no reaction by mods.
 
Mar 11, 2009
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labratty said:
In that quote he does not say that or support your statement in any way. He makes no predictional at all, actively avoids doing so. Stop making stuff up.

What? It says exactly what I said. I never said he predicted that he would turn into a Tour winner. He said that it is impossible to gauge whether or not he would develop into a Tour rider judging by his early results, considering how young he was. Notice that I said "Could" not "would" which means... who knows what he will be able to do in five years time.

Armstrong was hardly some lifelong average classics rider who miraculously transformed. He was an extremely young rider with less road experience than most at that age.
 
Aug 12, 2009
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Thoughtforfood said:
No, he got DROPPED. He tried to cover and it wasn't there.

One thing to note though is that Contador had covered every move to that point, and Andy was sitting in. I would say now that the tactics changing to Contador following Andy could produce a gap for Andy on another stage. The pressure for Contador just eased in the sense that he no longer has to ride like the leader of the Tour. That moves to Andy, and we will see how he handles it.

Not taking away from Cadel being in yellow, but when they get to the high mountains, he will pop off the back just because he has to grind.

A lot of pages to go through. Been reading back through the catalogue. This needs to be addressed now.

You all posting during the race are not giving your full attention to the race. Guess what that means...you're lacking perspective. I see many of you make idiotic and foolish comments, some which almost match Phil Liggett calling the Avoriaz climb Alpe D'Huez look tame.

Andy Schleck made an acceleration in the final few hundred metres. He is very motivated to win a stage. Big bro is out and he has never won a stage. First time he has lived up to his word on a climb that AC has been in and come off with a win. Not bad, Samuel Sanchez went with him. Contador looked to go and then paid attention to the rest of the group. They couldn't have cared about the win so neither did he. One Spaniard already up the road, if AC was on their wheels he'd be obliged to win. I presume he is spreading the love, letting everyone get a piece of the pie. He already has a nice chunk. Guess who looked like they were coasting the entire stage? AC, not Andy. Who has looked crap all season. AC or Andy? Andy. Who only just beat Samu? Andy. Has, AC beaten Samu this season? Hell yes and by more than a few centimetres. News flash. AC sat back on the final attack and bluffed everyone and I bet as I read on over the last 30 pages of this thread I will find most people misinterpreted the race finish. It meant nothing. All the top guys were there, except for the stage win.

Watch the race and then comment. AC finishing with Menchov, Evans and Basso makes sense. He is close to Menchov and Van den Broecke on GC. Guess who gets yellow when Evans loses it? Andy. Better to give him ten seconds and let him be closer to having his team protect yellow. Contador is very smart and aware. AC had the measure of Schleck in every major stage last year. Who has been strongest this year out of the GC guys? AC and then Evans. A sprint for a stage win, that is contested by only 2 riders who have never worn yellow or won a stage, is not a major indicator of how the race will unfold. Keep the fantasies coming guys. Andy Schleck went for a stage win, not to gain major time at the beginning of a climb. AC is still the one to beat. AC is waiting for the Pyrenees and can take time whenever he chooses.

Well done to Astana and also the two guys sprinting for the win. They did well. To the Shack. Great fail guys. This team will probably stuff up Levi's chances now. So much for Bottle talking them up...only he performed and he sucked wheels the entire way.

My top ten still is in place. I will make a substitute for the RS rider. Levi in for Lance. Heck when Lance first fell I thought he'd lose 3 minutes. Second time I thought he'd lose 5...but 12! Oh how the $h1t has hit the fan. Been a long time coming. Bad year for LA.
 
May 16, 2010
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what a great day
andy won
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759759718/

contador was not able to follow
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759770166/

armstrong at more than 11 minutes. the end of the boss. i think he will leave the tour
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759768806/

gesink did a good job. dutch proud
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759117531/

evans the new leader
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4591522558/

that was a great day
 
Jul 9, 2009
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autologous said:
Actual racing? :D
Saxo race neutralization to stop Andy from getting dropped made a total mockery of that concept.

Great ride by Andy today, but he shouldn't be in contention. His tour was over except for Cancellara's bullsht move.
+1 Totally agree! Very "clever" move by Spartacus to pretend it's because of "all" the accidents - got everybody's sympathy, meanwhile doing it for Saxo's main GC contender. Schlecklet should've been outside the top 10.
 
May 13, 2009
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hamperium said:
what a great day
andy won
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759759718/

contador was not able to follow
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759770166/

armstrong at more than 11 minutes. the end of the boss. i think he will leave the tour
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759768806/

gesink did a good job. dutch proud
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759117531/

evans the new leader
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4591522558/

that was a great day

Still peddling your c@ppy photos from the prologue?
 
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Galic Ho said:
A lot of pages to go through. Been reading back through the catalogue. This needs to be addressed now.

You all posting during the race are not giving your full attention to the race. Guess what that means...you're lacking perspective. I see many of you make idiotic and foolish comments, some which almost match Phil Liggett calling the Avoriaz climb Alpe D'Huez look tame.

Andy Schleck made an acceleration in the final few hundred metres. He is very motivated to win a stage. Big bro is out and he has never won a stage. First time he has lived up to his word on a climb that AC has been in and come off with a win. Not bad, Samuel Sanchez went with him. Contador looked to go and then paid attention to the rest of the group. They couldn't have cared about the win so neither did he. One Spaniard already up the road, if AC was on their wheels he'd be obliged to win. I presume he is spreading the love, letting everyone get a piece of the pie. He already has a nice chunk. Guess who looked like they were coasting the entire stage? AC, not Andy. Who has looked crap all season. AC or Andy? Andy. Who only just beat Samu? Andy. Has, AC beaten Samu this season? Hell yes and by more than a few centimetres. News flash. AC sat back on the final attack and bluffed everyone and I bet as I read on over the last 30 pages of this thread I will find most people misinterpreted the race finish. It meant nothing. All the top guys were there, except for the stage win.

Watch the race and then comment. AC finishing with Menchov, Evans and Basso makes sense. He is close to Menchov and Van den Broecke on GC. Guess who gets yellow when Evans loses it? Andy. Better to give him ten seconds and let him be closer to having his team protect yellow. Contador is very smart and aware. AC had the measure of Schleck in every major stage last year. Who has been strongest this year out of the GC guys? AC and then Evans. A sprint for a stage win, that is contested by only 2 riders who have never worn yellow or won a stage, is not a major indicator of how the race will unfold. Keep the fantasies coming guys. Andy Schleck went for a stage win, not to gain major time at the beginning of a climb. AC is still the one to beat. AC is waiting for the Pyrenees and can take time whenever he chooses.

Well done to Astana and also the two guys sprinting for the win. They did well. To the Shack. Great fail guys. This team will probably stuff up Levi's chances now. So much for Bottle talking them up...only he performed and he sucked wheels the entire way.

My top ten still is in place. I will make a substitute for the RS rider. Levi in for Lance. Heck when Lance first fell I thought he'd lose 3 minutes. Second time I thought he'd lose 5...but 12! Oh how the $h1t has hit the fan. Been a long time coming. Bad year for LA.

AC, if I read the google translation correctly, essentially said the same thing.
 
Jul 9, 2009
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VeloCity said:
I don't know if Contador was just antsy or what, but what was the point in his closing down the Gesink/Sanchez attack? Just a waste of legs and I think a big reason Conti couldn't tack on to Schleck's wheel.

didn't make any sense to me either :confused::confused:
 
Jul 11, 2010
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badboyberty said:
So the real revelations of today:

Krueziger was way stronger than Basso.
Samu Sanchez has some form.
Andy Schelck can ride without his brother.
Astana seemed stronger than Saxo and the Shack, with Vino playing perfect teammate.
Contador is beatable.
Wigans is 2nd Division.
Footon want the polka dots.
Gesink's injuries aren't terminal.

And there comes a point in everyone's life when it's probably a good idea to stay home and drink a beer...

Yup, that sums it up.
 
Jul 11, 2010
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Galic Ho said:
AC sat back on the final attack and bluffed everyone and I bet as I read on over the last 30 pages of this thread I will find most people misinterpreted the race finish. It meant nothing.

I think you're wrong. No way he would let AS go and lose precious seconds. Just no way and it was easy to see that AC just wasn't able to keep pace with AS.

That fact that AS dumped AC sure made this TDF much more interesting..
 
Aug 12, 2009
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Thoughtforfood said:
Cuddles can TT pretty well at times. Andy needs real distance from riders like Conti and Cuddles. I also saw Basso there, and don't forget his performance over the course of the Giro.

I know that this is a Clinic topic, but things could be different with little to no "recovery." Look at Basso's blood profile in the Giro. It was what you would expect, and as it went along, people got tired. This Tour could very well let us see what clean racing looks like (for the most part)

I've been asking for weeks now. If you have them, post them or please drop it. Proof of the blood profiles is needed. Start a thread and prove it. Cycling does not need any more sensationalist claims, of doping or clean riding. We've all seen and heard enough over the last 20 years.
 
Oct 23, 2009
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What a stage! Did't expect that.

Navarro excelent! Contenders emerged, still a big group, everything is open. Still don't think guys from Giro will stand for 3 weeks, but maybe I'm wrong. Samu will be strong, Dennis will be strong. Very happy with young guys - Andy, Bobby, Roman, they're all good, but still Andy will have to fight hard to be top 3 I think, Roman will be tested on steeper climbs and Bobby on descendes ;)

No really enjoyed it, great one!!
 
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Galic Ho said:
A lot of pages to go through. Been reading back through the catalogue. This needs to be addressed now.

You all posting during the race are not giving your full attention to the race. Guess what that means...you're lacking perspective. I see many of you make idiotic and foolish comments, some which almost match Phil Liggett calling the Avoriaz climb Alpe D'Huez look tame.

Andy Schleck made an acceleration in the final few hundred metres. He is very motivated to win a stage. Big bro is out and he has never won a stage. First time he has lived up to his word on a climb that AC has been in and come off with a win. Not bad, Samuel Sanchez went with him. Contador looked to go and then paid attention to the rest of the group. They couldn't have cared about the win so neither did he. One Spaniard already up the road, if AC was on their wheels he'd be obliged to win. I presume he is spreading the love, letting everyone get a piece of the pie. He already has a nice chunk. Guess who looked like they were coasting the entire stage? AC, not Andy. Who has looked crap all season. AC or Andy? Andy. Who only just beat Samu? Andy. Has, AC beaten Samu this season? Hell yes and by more than a few centimetres. News flash. AC sat back on the final attack and bluffed everyone and I bet as I read on over the last 30 pages of this thread I will find most people misinterpreted the race finish. It meant nothing. All the top guys were there, except for the stage win.
OK I rewatched the race footage and I was right the first time around. There's no sense in Contador gifting Andy 10 seconds because Andy was already next in line to get yellow after Evans and if Contador cared about letting another Spaniard win he'd have let SSanchez go when he attacked alongside Gesink, but that time Contador closed the gap. When Andy attacked he very clearly tried to close the gap and failed. Things might go differently on longer and steeper climbs, but Contador did not bluff, it would make no sense for him to do that because he's still the favourite and he'll still get marked by anyone who can.