How do we assess teams like ISN, FDJ, Bora or EF (part of the MPCC)? Do they dope the same like UAE, Ineos or Bahrain? Less? Or no illegal stuff?
Aicar wasn't explicitly banned when everyone was flying at the 2009 Tour (even Wiggins climbed faster than in 2012), right?As we know professional athletes turn every page to find a competitive edge - Those with resources have access to cutting edge sports scientists/doctors etc - It could be they have found substances that are NOT on the WADA prohibited list - If this is the case nothing can be done for now.
If you read stuff like Tyler Hamilton's book, it's easy to surmise the teams you refer to have their methods... but those methods are already surpassed & dated.How do we assess teams like ISN, FDJ, Bora or EF (part of the MPCC)? Do they dope the same like UAE, Ineos or Bahrain? Less? Or no illegal stuff?
You miss the point - There are many substances that could be used to improve performance or even a combination of substances or even a cocktail of substances - Sports Scientists will continually experiement until they find something that improves performance - But if its not on the WADA list of substances is all fine - I am looking outside the box - An improved performance is not always because athletes are using banned substances/treatments under the WADA code.Doping is the use of illegal substances. By definition, legal doping doesn't exist.
Indeed. There are legal ergogenic methods of improving performance. There is doping. Legal methods are not doping. WADA has made a good attempt to also capture subgroups/methods of doping, so even if a particular product or method is not specifically called out, if it falls in that territory, it is still doping.Semantics are very important here though, because attempting to tie the word "doping" to something athletes are allowed to do is extremely disingenuous. AICAR has always been banned under the Prohibited List, even before it was named, based on the other clauses in there. Likewise I get what you mean when you say things that can't be detected might be viewed in a similar way to "legal" by some athletes, but again they absolutely are not the same thing and the difference is extremely important.
In terms of catching people, testing isn't the only way as many have found out. Specifically for gene doping, there's a fair amount of work looking at this.
Van aert climbed the ventoux in more than 50 minutes.Sprinters riding the climbing stages like mountain goats. First Colbrelli on Saturday, now Van Aert pounding up Ventoux. I think Van Aert must've put the rest day to good use, looks in phenomenal shape now. Narrowly denied on the line in yesterdays sprint stage and now enroute to winning the Ventoux stage.
I am guessing you needed to keep it to 3 and that is why no vdP? Because I think it is a toss up between vdP, vA, Cav and TP. WvA might even be the least suspicious of these four (lol at even reading that out loud!)most doped riders in this Tour:
- Van Aert