State of the Peloton 2024

[Mayomaniac]

At one point we had 4 IPT riders in the gc group on the final climb...

 

[Tim Cahill]

Maybe Froome's deluxe 25 million contract included sharing the tricks of the trade. Worth every penny.

 

[Ripper]

how about Javier Romo too? i've noticed him ride well in breakaways in the past but his climbing in this race has been straight out of left field. it's not like he's that young either. Movistar got on the good stuff.

Jose is making his presence known. Perhaps Leo is helping a bit as well

 

[Ripper]

Matteo Matteo

 

[ontheroad]

With the increased number of cycling prodigies in recent years making their breakthrough earlier, its been a while since we’ve seen a rider with such a dramatic mid career transformation like Gee has shown both in last years Giro and again this week. I thought we’d never see another roleur going by the name of ‘Gee’ transform into a mountain goat in their mid 20s!

Quite a few other breakout performances this week from other riders, I have a feeling July will be interesting as the dial gets turned up.

 

[Ripper]

With the increased number of cycling prodigies in recent years making their breakthrough earlier, its been a while since we’ve seen a rider with such a dramatic mid career transformation like Gee has shown both in last years Giro and again this week. I thought we’d never see another roleur going by the name of ‘Gee’ transform into a mountain goat in their mid 20s!

Quite a few other breakout performances this week from other riders, I have a feeling July will be interesting as the dial gets turned up.

I won't defend a rider I don't personally know well, but it is a false narrative to compare Gee to G or other transfroomations His trajectory has been fairly different. Probably closer to say a late starter/bloomer, with all that might be included there. Still eyebrow raising to be sure

 

[Mayomaniac]

I won't defend a rider I don't personally know well, but it is a false narrative to compare Gee to G or other transfroomations His trajectory has been fairly different. Probably closer to say a late starter/bloomer, with all that might be included there. Still eyebrow raising to be sure

The red flag is that today suddenly Neilands, Dyan Teuns and Fuglsang were with him on the final climb, in the gc group they had more riders than every other team!

 

[pastronef]

The red flag is that today suddenly Neilands, Dyan Teuns and Fuglsang were with him on the final climb, in the gc group they had more riders than every other team!

then they arrived at the finish with 3-4 minutes from Rodriguez and Jorgenson

 

[zlev11]

insane numbers on the climb today

 

[Salvarani]

Maybe Froome's deluxe 25 million contract included sharing the tricks of the trade. Worth every penny.

I wouldnt be surprised, lol. He saw Thomas transformation first hand, outside of his own of course.

And a lot of the early days of Sky and their methods are now widespread among almost every team. The "marginal gains" etc.

 

[Salvarani]

The red flag is that today suddenly Neilands, Dyan Teuns and Fuglsang were with him on the final climb, in the gc group they had more riders than every other team!

Perhaps, but they are pretty seasoned and experienced riders who has all been there before at some point. All with great merits. Im not super-surprised about that actually.

It is been a weird race with so many crashes and so many riders DNF or DNS also and probably boosted by Gee doing so well wanting to help him.

 

[Ripper]

Jakob over is issues? 😆

 

[Froome]

The new flying whale?

"He just lost the fat".

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Hot take: Chris Froome still has a job, because he knows enough that his silence about what happened, is worth decent money.

 

[zlev11]

Hot take: Chris Froome still has a job, because he knows enough that his silence about what happened, is worth decent money.

yeah but why would he spill the beans on himself and tarnish 4 TDF wins?

 

[Rackham]

I'll wait until the Tour before jumping to any conclusions.

It's the main event. The big one which teams & sponsors focus on. I've said before these one week races are becoming increasingly difficult to 'read' because the riders targeting July (or other stuff earlier in the season like monuments) are coming up against riders who're prepared specifically for these races.

I reckon Jorgenson went to the Dauphiné specifically targeting the win. He was already 'aggressive' in the stage won by Magnus Cort. The rest (all the blablabla about not knowing his level etc.) was pure B.S. But I also don't think he's prepared for the Tour, actually, i.e. I believe the way UCI points system works now (& especially the race at the top between Jumbo & UAE) means these teams are sending riders to win these one week stage races irrespective of other goals down the line - aka goals for which they have other riders.

If I'm wrong & Jorgenson goes to the Tour & competes a podium, then sure, we've got a new super performer in pro cycling.

But I would not be surprised if Gee & Jorgenson are total no-shows next month (in fact Jorgenson could have a different job entirely if Vingegaard has recovered enough).

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

With the increased number of cycling prodigies in recent years making their breakthrough earlier, its been a while since we’ve seen a rider with such a dramatic mid career transformation like Gee has shown both in last years Giro and again this week. I thought we’d never see another roleur going by the name of ‘Gee’ transform into a mountain goat in their mid 20s!

Quite a few other breakout performances this week from other riders, I have a feeling July will be interesting as the dial gets turned up.

in the category riders who magically transformed into elite climbers past 25.
Chris Froome

Gee probably got some hints and tips

 

[zlev11]

I'll wait until the Tour before jumping to any conclusions.

It's the main event. The big one which teams & sponsors focus on. I've said before these one week races are becoming increasingly difficult to 'read' because the riders targeting July (or other stuff earlier in the season like monuments) are coming up against riders who're prepared specifically for these races.

I reckon Jorgenson went to the Dauphiné specifically targeting the win. He was already 'aggressive' in the stage won by Magnus Cort. The rest (all the blablabla about not knowing his level etc.) was pure B.S. But I also don't think he's prepared for the Tour, actually, i.e. I believe the way UCI points system works now (& especially the race at the top between Jumbo & UAE) means these teams are sending riders to win these one week stage races irrespective of other goals down the line - aka goals for which they have other riders.

If I'm wrong & Jorgenson goes to the Tour & competes a podium, then sure, we've got a new super performer in pro cycling.

But I would not be surprised if Gee & Jorgenson are total no-shows next month (in fact Jorgenson could have a different job entirely if Vingegaard has recovered enough).

i dunno man he climbed at wicked numbers yesterday and he can TT, i think he's riding the Tour for GC. on this form he absolutely should anyway.

 

[jono]

i dunno man he climbed at wicked numbers yesterday and he can TT, i think he's riding the Tour for GC. on this form he absolutely should anyway.

He'll be riding for GC at the Tour (what other option does IPT have) but if he finishes inside the top 15 I'll be surprised.

To be clear, I'm talking about Gee. If you were referring to Jorgenson I'm not so sure.

 

[zlev11]

He'll be riding for GC at the Tour (what other option does IPT have) but if he finishes inside the top 15 I'll be surprised.

To be clear, I'm talking about Gee. If you were referring to Jorgenson I'm not so sure.

he was already 20th in 2022 when he was way way below his current level. with those numbers he put out yesterday a top 5 wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Ripper]

Gee is the greatest clean athlete since G!

 

[veganrob]

Gee is the greatest clean athlete since G!

Canadiens don't dope. Same as Brits don't dope.

 

[Ripper]

Canadiens don't dope. Same as Brits don't dope.

1000% correct sir.

Riiiider did not dope

Sea-moss did not dope.

Rolly didn't either.

We Canucks are totes cleanz

EDIT - it's all the secret maple syrup

 

[Rackham]

Looks like Benji Naesen's mates at Rabojumbo didn't like the new Netflix show & got their favorite influencer to go on the attack:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800439746730119226

View: https://x.com/BenjiNaesen/status/1800439746730119226


That's like a textbook definition of whataboutism.

 

[Froome]

Looks like Benji Naesen's mates at Rabojumbo didn't like the new Netflix show & got their favorite influencer to go on the attack:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800439746730119226

View: https://x.com/BenjiNaesen/status/1800439746730119226


That's like a textbook definition of whataboutism.

Benji is such a jerk, is all about clickbait.

Some weeks ago, he was defending Pogacar over Merckx, because Merckx had some positive doping controls, unlike Pogacar. Now, he posts something like that, when Pogacar works for Gianneti, just like Ricardo Ricco worked for him.