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State of the Peloton 2024

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Radio France has an investigation about products in the peloton. voltaren, paracetamol, caffeine, ketones.
stuff I can buy over the counter
That must be some crazy reporting they got going on :)

I am old and I sometimes take three of those things on a regular training day :p

Pretty sure that NSAIDS, acetaminophen, and some coffee are not what is fueling the top dogs right now. No idea where ketones fit for most people, but given it is "all about the carbs", color me skeptical
 
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Of course, it’s probably not French riders to target since they are performing so poorly.
Surely they should target the French because a) they won't find anything and b) they can tell the riders what they haven't found so the riders can start taking it and "level the playing field".
 
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In the comments he basically says that he knows small fish ("Landis") but is now building evidence for his big fish ("Lance"). Apparantly he has been in discussion with mou as well who says in the comments that he is eager to supply him with any info showing Pogi is clean. According to mou it's more realistic that the pope would mary in the Saint Peter's cathedral than Pogi doping
I find it weird that his YouTube sounds like a normal Englishman but his Twitter reads like someone whose first language is not English...what's up with that?
 
"Jean-Pierre Verdy, former director of the French Anti-Doping Agency, considers this massive use of drugs to be a form of doping, albeit a legal one."

"The investigation also highlights the availability of various drugs in the peloton. Cyclists have access to substances such as Voltaren, caffeine or paracetamol, often in the form of cocktails. An anonymous witness describes the "magic box", a box containing various drugs, freely distributed before races. The concept of the "bomba", a mixture of these authorized products, recalls the amphetamine cocktails that were once widespread."

no, NO. it does recall fck all. amphetamines are banned. voltaren, caffeine, paracetamol are legal. dear me some French journos are desperate. they'd better stick at looking for those invisible motors :sweatsmile:
 
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"Jean-Pierre Verdy, former director of the French Anti-Doping Agency, considers this massive use of drugs to be a form of doping, albeit a legal one."

"The investigation also highlights the availability of various drugs in the peloton. Cyclists have access to substances such as Voltaren, caffeine or paracetamol, often in the form of cocktails. An anonymous witness describes the "magic box", a box containing various drugs, freely distributed before races. The concept of the "bomba", a mixture of these authorized products, recalls the amphetamine cocktails that were once widespread."

no, NO. it does recall fck all. amphetamines are banned. voltaren, caffeine, paracetamol are legal. dear me some French journos are desperate. they'd better stick at looking for those invisible motors :sweatsmile:
It delegitimizes the threat of doping purely by association to even mention those things in the same sentence as blood doping or other banned substances.
 
It delegitimizes the threat of doping purely by association to even mention those things in the same sentence as blood doping or other banned substances.

but it gets mentions and clicks cause the vast majority of the July watchers think that way. and it's absolutely baffling how the few twitter-antidopers (Neil Wooldridge, Vayer, UncleCycling and co) promote that view. they shout "caffeine, voltaren, paracetamol" same as the French journos are doing.
ffs, if you blab on about credibility, well, then check your own one.
yeah I know we made this points before on here
 
"Jean-Pierre Verdy, former director of the French Anti-Doping Agency, considers this massive use of drugs to be a form of doping, albeit a legal one."

"The investigation also highlights the availability of various drugs in the peloton. Cyclists have access to substances such as Voltaren, caffeine or paracetamol, often in the form of cocktails. An anonymous witness describes the "magic box", a box containing various drugs, freely distributed before races. The concept of the "bomba", a mixture of these authorized products, recalls the amphetamine cocktails that were once widespread."

no, NO. it does recall fck all. amphetamines are banned. voltaren, caffeine, paracetamol are legal. dear me some French journos are desperate. they'd better stick at looking for those invisible motors :sweatsmile:
Verdy is really reaching for the drama. If it is legal, then it's not doping ... what a tool.

I mean, there is dodgy medication abuse going on, I have no doubt about that. Caffeine, NSAIDs, and Tylenol? C'mon folks, that is not going to make you a world beater. It'll help you feel you aches and pains less, and get you out of bed nicely, but otherwise?

Good grief, if those three are an issue, then over half the people I know are doping just to keep their bodies ticking along :p
 
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The problem with media reporting and also confusing to the discussion here is the interchangeable use of the terms legal/illegal and banned. We should be using the terms “banned” or not banned. Whether a drug’s use for performance enhancing is actually “legal” varies by country: the criminal code re: doping is vastly different in, for example, France vs. the U.S.
I don’t expect the media to bother trying for clarity on that but we should be able to do that here.
 
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Verdy is really reaching for the drama. If it is legal, then it's not doping ... what a tool.

I mean, there is dodgy medication abuse going on, I have no doubt about that. Caffeine, NSAIDs, and Tylenol? C'mon folks, that is not going to make you a world beater. It'll help you feel you aches and pains less, and get you out of bed nicely, but otherwise?

Good grief, if those three are an issue, then over half the people I know are doping just to keep their bodies ticking along :p
Indeed we are! ;)
 
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most youtube videos these days are AI voices. Little chance that is the real voice of the man behind cycling highlights
No it's a voice actor, the real guy is Spanish and quite old, he is clickbaity but I can tell you his knowledge of cycling is extensive.

Voice actor is doing a great job I have to say, just a completely absurd English accent reflecting the tone of the videos.
 
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most youtube videos these days are AI voices. Little chance that is the real voice of the man behind cycling highlights
Not talking about Cycling Highlights but AI voices can be so hilarious in how they mispronounce names or words, and closed captioning is even worse! I feel for people who are truly deaf because the text they see on the screen is not what's being said, often it's not even close.

That said I think Cycling Highlights guy is pretty funny and it's good to know he's a real dude.